Obama has got some nerve

acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
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How about, the people coming to this country need to learn English?
WTF Obama. This fucking guy.
I agree its good for children to learn many languages but what he is saying is flat out fucked up.
Like I said in another thread, most europeans speak many languages b/c the countries over there are very small and close together like our states are.
Dumb ass Obama you fucker.
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    I agree with Obama.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Everyone who comes to live in this country should be required to learn english.

    Our public signs, directions, billboards etc.....should be in English.

    But, I do believe it would be a positive thing for languages like Spanish, French, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German to be learned and learned well. We have had language classes in our schools for a long time. I learned quite a bit when I was in school. But most people/kids don't take it seriously and learn just enough to pass the class and then forget all about it.

    Nothing wrong with expanding our language arts. it's good for the mind and for the soul.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    El Gypsies!!!

    what's wrong with learning another language?

    surely its a good thing? :confused:


    its not like he's advocating children should attend compulsory How Gay Men Have Sex classes is it?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    NMyTree wrote:
    Everyone who comes to live in this country should be required to learn english.

    Our public signs, directions, billboards etc.....should be in English.

    But, I do believe it would be a positive thing for languages like Spanish, French, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German to be learned and learned well. We have had language classes in our schools for a long time. I learned quite a bit when I was in school. But most people/kids don't take it seriously and learn just enough to pass the class and then forget all about it.

    Nothing wrong with expanding our language arts. it's good for the mind and for the soul.

    Required to learn English? What else are we going to require them to learn? and what exactly to we require American's to learn?
  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    dunkman wrote:
    El Gypsies!!!

    what's wrong with learning another language?

    surely its a good thing? :confused:


    its not like he's advocating children should attend compulsory How Gay Men Have Sex classes is it?
    Sure its a good thing. I totally agree but he is not making a point to tell immigrants to learn English, he is saying b/c they don't speak it that WE should learn their language. Not right IMO.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Maybe we should all be required to learn Navajo... and Apache... and Hopi...
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Required to learn English? What else are we going to require them to learn? and what exactly to we require American's to learn?


    Yes, English.

    If you come to live in america, you should learn the language.

    If I go to France, I don't expect them to all know english.

    If I go to Mexico, they don't give a fuck about learning english for my sake and I don't expect them to.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    scb wrote:
    Maybe we should all be required to learn Navajo... and Apache... and Hopi...

    I think that would be a great idea.
  • kh65kh65 Posts: 946
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEY_-t4wXik&feature=related
    How about, the people coming to this country need to learn English?
    WTF Obama. This fucking guy.
    I agree its good for children to learn many languages but what he is saying is flat out fucked up.
    Like I said in another thread, most europeans speak many languages b/c the countries over there are very small and close together like our states are.
    Dumb ass Obama you fucker.

    I'm no fan of his (the whole socialism thing in particular). But the one thing that is important for a culture is for everyone to share a common language otherwise the society will become balcanized and there will be no cohesion.
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    scb wrote:
    Maybe we should all be required to learn Navajo... and Apache... and Hopi...
    Please...
    I feel for the people who were here before us. I think what happened to them was terrible. But that was then and this is now. All we can do is learn form it, not dwell on the past. Give me a break trying to compair then and now.
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  • Sure its a good thing. I totally agree but he is not making a point to tell immigrants to learn English, he is saying b/c they don't speak it that WE should learn their language. Not right IMO.

    Ummm... he is not saying that at all... In fact he said the he agrees that immigrants should learn english, and that we should learn languages not because immigrants won't learn english, but because it would make us more capable in the world.
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    NMyTree wrote:
    Yes, English.

    If you come to live in america, you should learn the language.

    If I go to France, I don't expect them to all know english.

    If I go to Mexico, they don't give a fuck about learning english for my sake and I don't expect them to.
    Exactly but..... if I am going to go to another country to visit, I will always try to learn the language. Its a respect thing period.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    kcuf obama
  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Ummm... he is not saying that at all... In fact he said the he agrees that immigrants should learn english, and that we should learn languages not because immigrants won't learn english, but because it would make us more capable in the world.
    No. he is simply saying "come on over to my country and we will make you as comfortable as possible. We will put your language on everything we sell. If yuo buy a home appliance, it will come with 12 different direction books to make sure you are comfortable." Fuck that.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i think some people dont realize the majority of the Western Hemisphere is spanish speaking... i think it is IMPERATIVE for our current and future American generations to become multi lingual, especially in Spanish

    There are approximately 530 million people living south of the Rio Grande... wake up and smell the coffee beans
  • kh65 wrote:
    I'm no fan of his (the whole socialism thing in particular). But the one thing that is important for a culture is for everyone to share a common language otherwise the society will become balcanized and there will be no cohesion.

    I think it would be great for people coming in to balcanize my cohesion...
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  • my2hands wrote:
    i think some poeple dont realize the majority of the Western Hemisphere is spanish speaking... i think it is IMPERATIVE for our current and future American generations to become multi lingual, especially in Spanish

    There are approximately 530 million people living south of the Rio Grande... wake up and smell the coffee beans


    eat more taco bell...
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    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    No. he is simply saying "come on over to my country and we will make you as comfortable as possible. We will put your language on everything we sell. If yuo buy a home appliance, it will come with 12 different direction books to make sure you are comfortable." Fuck that.

    yeah, you are really blowing this one out of proportion... but feel free to continue because it is funny as hell ready such nonsense :D
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    eat more taco bell...


    i hate taco bell... there are plenty of authentic places around me to go to now... i love a real taco, not the gringo crap covered in a bunch of shit served at the chains like chi chi's and taco bell... give me the grilled soft tortilla, grilled meat, chopped onion, chopped cilantro, and a squeeze of lime juice. that shit cant be beat. i eat it at least once a week
  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    my2hands wrote:
    yeah, you are really blowing this one out of proportion... but feel free to continue because it is funny as hell ready such nonsense :D
    LOL thanks :rolleyes:
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Please...
    I feel for the people who were here before us. I think what happened to them was terrible. But that was then and this is now. All we can do is learn form it, not dwell on the past. Give me a break trying to compair then and now.
    I think you could use a couple lessons in English... ;):p
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    LOL thanks :rolleyes:

    do you know why your appliance comes with instructions in multiple laguages? becasue you live in a hemisphere where people speak multiple laguages... french, english, and spanish... and large companies that make your appliances sell their products throughout the world, let alone this hemisphere... so it only makes sense to include instructions for the main laguages you will be selling too... ever buy somethign from ikea? the instructions also come in swedish, because it is a swedish based company.

    English is not the only laguage spoken in the world.. not to metion you live in the worlds greatest melting pot to boot
  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    _outlaw wrote:
    I think you could use a couple lessons in English... ;):p
    Just typing fast, watching my daughter today Teach.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    My cousins in Europe started learning English in school when they were 7 years old. Not so that English-speakers could be comfortable in their country, but so they could communicate with more people in the world. Yes, it is required. Yes, it is a very good thing. Obama is saying it is humbling to realize that Americans are one of the only groups left who only speak one language.

    Ours is the only country in the world I know where people are afraid of learning new languages. It's sad.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    NMyTree wrote:
    But, I do believe it would be a positive thing for languages like Spanish, French, Japanese, Italian, Chinese and German to be learned and learned well.

    I agree it would be a positive thing. But, aside from the curriculum already taught in high school and college, I don't think Obama has any right to tell me what I should teach my kids.
    We have had language classes in our schools for a long time. I learned quite a bit when I was in school. But most people/kids don't take it seriously and learn just enough to pass the class and then forget all about it.

    So what? That's their prerogative. I took differential calculus in high school, but ended up not needing it in my job. I've forgotten that, too.
    Nothing wrong with expanding our language arts. it's good for the mind and for the soul.

    There's nothing wrong with it, so long as it's voluntary. What's next for Obama? "Every American child should be required to read The Great Gatsby?" Or else what?
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    my2hands wrote:
    do you know why your appliance comes with instructions in multiple laguages? becasue you live in a hemisphere where people speak multiple laguages... french, english, and spanish... and large companies that make your appliances sell their products throughout the world, let alone this hemisphere... so it only makes sense to include instructions for the main laguages you will be selling too... ever buy somethign from ikea? the instructions also come in swedish, because it is a swedish based company.

    English is not the only laguage spoken in the world.. not to metion you live in the worlds greatest melting pot to boot
    Really? Okay then why is half the things I buy from day to day written in English and Spanish?
    Sorry, I think things should only be written in English here. Thats just how I feel.
    I see your point on the directions but this is how i feel.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    Really? Okay then why is half the things I buy from day to day written in English and Spanish?
    Sorry, I think things should only be written in English here. Thats just how I feel.
    I see your point on the directions but this is how i feel.


    Just out of curiosity, have you done a lot of traveling? Because pretty much everywhere else in the world, not only signs, but PA announcements and many other things are done in multiple languages. Not just border towns or tiny countries. It's not to bow down to anyone or to minimize the importance of a native tongue, but to create access. Do you want the US to compete on an international level in a global economy, or do you want to isolate ourselves further than we are already?
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I think we should pick a national language and use it exclusively, but as to the question of whether everyone needs to learn it, that should be up to the individual.
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  • No. he is simply saying "come on over to my country and we will make you as comfortable as possible. We will put your language on everything we sell. If yuo buy a home appliance, it will come with 12 different direction books to make sure you are comfortable." Fuck that.

    riiiiggghhhtt.... he said that.
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