So, what then? We were attacked because they hate our freedom and democracy? :rolleyes:
It may be hard to swallow, but i think its the truth. It is our traditions of foreign policy around the world that have earned us our current esteem in the eyes of the world. 9/11, in a sense, was, in fact, a case of American chickens coming home to roost. Perhaps not the truth to be pointing out five days after the attack, but the truth none the less.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Does this pastor have super special mega awesome powers and control everything Obama has done and will do?
The guy is not a satan worshipper, as conservatives would make him out to be.
why is what this guys pastor says a news story? really now....
Its funny how its OK for a republicans (conservatists) pastor/reverend to say that God sent the hurricane Katrina and 9/11 to punish us for our evil ways and porn and homosexuals got aids from god, etc, etc......but this dudes pastor SAYS THE US GOVT IS CORRUPT AND FULL OF SHIT AND DOES TERRIBLE THINGS, and suddenly Obama is the devil?
I hate to say it, but I laugh at the stupidity of my fellow American. I can only imagine the conversations those who even consider this shit relevant have.
Scary.
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Really folks. Even if you support him.
He goes to hear a racist Reverend speak bad about our country for 20 years!! 20 Years! Then uses him as a personal advisor.
What kind of person who runs for president, attends a weekly meeting with a person who bashes America?
You don't find that disturbing?
You want a person like that as the President of the United States?
Really think about this people. Don't be so quick to respond in a angry way.
It just does not add up does it?
I'm getting into this thread late so pardon me if this has been said...
are you holing John McWar to this standard?
his religious advisors, Parsley and Hagee have openly said they believe that hurricane Katrina was God's retribution for Sin in America.
Not Republicans scoring gay sex in bathrooms mind you, but the regular kind, monogamous Homosexual couples.
Also, they feel a personal responsibility for bringing on the end of the world.
so, there's some guys you want in the president's ear.
Really folks. Even if you support him.
He goes to hear a racist Reverend speak bad about our country for 20 years!! 20 Years! Then uses him as a personal advisor.
What kind of person who runs for president, attends a weekly meeting with a person who bashes America?
You don't find that disturbing?
You want a person like that as the President of the United States?
Really think about this people. Don't be so quick to respond in a angry way.
It just does not add up does it?
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Does this mean you should be judged by the words (or actions) of your religious leader?
So... if your preiest is found to have blown alter boys... I guess you must be a pedophile.
How does that make any sense?
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Hail, Hail!!!
i need to stay away from political talk for awhile
I didn't say we had it coming or that we deserved it. Give it up. "Chickens coming home to roost" is simply another way of saying "You reap what you sow".
It doesn't imply it was justified or deserved, just that you needn't be surprised by it. You can't plant potatoes and expect to grow carrots.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
To balance it out... look at past Presidential advisors. How about Haldermann and Erlichmann with Nixon? Those guys were boderline Nazis. And Rove, Rumsfeld, Cheney and wolfowitz and Billl Kristol and the fools at the PNAC advising 'The Decider'..
actually pnac co-founder robert kagan publicly endorses obama....he helped write that paper 'rebuilding america's defenses' in 2000, ya know the one saying we need to spend the surplus on the military and new weapons, we need to militarize space, we need to take out saddam to have control in the region but saying he was bad is a good excuse to tell ppl....
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
America needs some (a lot) of bashing. Sitting around and talking about how wonderful and great America is, is not only unproductive, but it's a not true.
America needs some (a lot) of bashing. Sitting around and talking about how wonderful and great America is, is not only unproductive, but it's a not true.
Some feel the same way about Obama.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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So, what then? We were attacked because they hate our freedom and democracy? :rolleyes:
It may be hard to swallow, but i think its the truth. It is our traditions of foreign policy around the world that have earned us our current esteem in the eyes of the world. 9/11, in a sense, was, in fact, a case of American chickens coming home to roost. Perhaps not the truth to be pointing out five days after the attack, but the truth none the less.
The guy is not a satan worshipper, as conservatives would make him out to be.
why is what this guys pastor says a news story? really now....
Its funny how its OK for a republicans (conservatists) pastor/reverend to say that God sent the hurricane Katrina and 9/11 to punish us for our evil ways and porn and homosexuals got aids from god, etc, etc......but this dudes pastor SAYS THE US GOVT IS CORRUPT AND FULL OF SHIT AND DOES TERRIBLE THINGS, and suddenly Obama is the devil?
I hate to say it, but I laugh at the stupidity of my fellow American. I can only imagine the conversations those who even consider this shit relevant have.
Scary.
I'm getting into this thread late so pardon me if this has been said...
are you holing John McWar to this standard?
his religious advisors, Parsley and Hagee have openly said they believe that hurricane Katrina was God's retribution for Sin in America.
Not Republicans scoring gay sex in bathrooms mind you, but the regular kind, monogamous Homosexual couples.
Also, they feel a personal responsibility for bringing on the end of the world.
so, there's some guys you want in the president's ear.
i need to stay away from political talk for awhile
Does this mean you should be judged by the words (or actions) of your religious leader?
So... if your preiest is found to have blown alter boys... I guess you must be a pedophile.
How does that make any sense?
Hail, Hail!!!
It doesn't imply it was justified or deserved, just that you needn't be surprised by it. You can't plant potatoes and expect to grow carrots.
good idea.
actually pnac co-founder robert kagan publicly endorses obama....he helped write that paper 'rebuilding america's defenses' in 2000, ya know the one saying we need to spend the surplus on the military and new weapons, we need to militarize space, we need to take out saddam to have control in the region but saying he was bad is a good excuse to tell ppl....
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Some feel the same way about Obama.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I know the feeling.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde