Olbermann’s Special Comment: Are YOURS the actions of a true American?

inmytree

TheCurrentsWillShift wrote:

Uhh, it happened on Clinton's watch also, and he is not entirely owning up to it.

Does anyone remember 1993. What happened to the towers then.
We were one pillar away (in the parking garage) from a disaster
that would have trumped 9/11. That building was full when that happened.
Clinton was pretty damn lucky that day, but not lucky on many other situations. Do not even think that the smooth talker was beyond blame for anything.

Do I have to bring up other Clinton gaffes / Security related issues:
1.) The Murrah building (domestic terrorism)
2.) Kosovo
3.) The Cole Bombing
4.) Marc Rich Pardon (fugitive - illegal oil dealings with Iran, Iraq, Libya - Commodities Deals gone wrong - ruining thousands of peoples lives / savings ). All for some campaign contributions to Hillary and a donation by Denise Rich to the Clinton Library. So ridiculous, I can't even find the words.
5.) No Troops to Rwanda in 1994 - 1 Million people died in fighting (because of political failure in Somalia - Black Hawk Down). I wonder what those people think of the U.S.
6.) Clinton also was strong proponent of Weapons of Mass Destruction Theory and continued sanctions in Iraq (also attacked Iraq on the eve of the Monica Lewinsky scandal - absolutely ridiculous - Iraq's non-disclosure of WMD was the reason ).
7.) US Embassy Bombings in Kenya and Tanzania
8.) Khobar Towers Attack
9.) Able Danger and identification of Mohammed Atta in 1999, on three separate occasions. The inability to raise the issue due to a "Wall" created by deputy attorney general Jamie Gorelick (Clinton Appointee) between FBI and military regarding sharing of information. That "Wall" limited intelligence sharing, because of civil liberty concerns. I for one would like the 3,000 plus people back and would compromise some liberties on a limited basis - Would you, maybe not????)
9.) Clinton's Many Personal Issues - I won't even get into these.

There are a myriad of others, but I don't want to bore you.

The point is there is blood on many hands. The current administration does not have to blame Clinton. The blame is there, no need to make it up.

I ask you what did Clinton do to limit terrorism??? Looks like it
has been happening all along. Despite, many weaknesses with Bush,
at least someone is trying to do something about it??? Right or Wrong.

Clinton had 8 years. Bush had 8 months.

Clinton talks about Richard Clarke. The guy was a tool for twenty years under several administrations.
By the way what did Richard Clarke do to prevent any of this ??? Counter-terrorism expert, my ass !

I got this email, or something like it...I just hit the spam button...

TheCurrentsWillShift

FromWayBack wrote:

If by bringing up that Clinton has acknowledged mistakes he made and expressed regret for them, assigns me the role of sympathiser then I accept that role freely. What role are you playing?

It's odd that you think that Clinton wasn't attacked by the media, I seem to remember him being lambasted continously. But I guess I must have dreamt that. That kind of thing happens a lot with my problematic short memory.

No, Clinton was attacked and lambasted by the Republican Congress and later the Senate which (because the media were not doing their job). The media was reluctantly pulled into many stories. Near the end the media had no choice but to report, as Fox News was beginning to take away their audience.

Fox news is a direct result of the liberal media bias of the time (still to today). The audience could see what was going on, but media criticism was padded. Instead of reporting right and wrong, the news stopped reporting what was wrong when it came to the President.

Who is playing a role here ???? If President Bush screws up I say it, when President Clinton screwed up I stated it. When George Bush SR. screwed up I stated it. The problem is that too many people have bought into a myth that President Bush has conducted business different from any President before him, faced with difficult circumstances.

The media is the one playing the role here and has warped this perception for it's own liberal agendas. The media created its own monster, caught up in faked stories and using its power to distort emotions and take things out of context. Some sheep continue to believe them wholeheartedly.

Thank god for the blogosphere, otherwise they would continue to get away with it.

Oh, and as far as regret is concerned, give Bush the same time after his presidency to do the same.
All presidents do things they regret, but that does not absolve them because they regret.
The love affair with Clinton is extraordinary.

TheCurrentsWillShift

inmytree wrote:

I got this email, or something like it...I just hit the spam button...

You got to love it..... When the truth is there, just turn it off or discredit with a broad stroke.

Keep following the lambs my friend.

inmytree

TheCurrentsWillShift wrote:

You got to love it..... When the truth is there, just turn it off or discredit with a broad stroke.

Keep following the lambs my friend.

forgive me...perhaps I should be happy that I received a unsolicited email...maybe I should have posted it on a message board as if it were my own...

anyhoo...I stubbed my toe this morning...I figured it was Clinton's fault...

casey

Did anyone see the story about Olbermann receiving a letter with white powder in it at his home? Perhaps that what got him riled up when he made this comment.

TheCurrentsWillShift

inmytree wrote:

forgive me...perhaps I should be happy that I received a unsolicited email...maybe I should have posted it on a message board as if it were my own...

anyhoo...I stubbed my toe this morning...I figured it was Clinton's fault...

What a weird bunch some of my fellow fans are.
Your honestly insinuating that my reasoned response to be some sort of e-mail, regurgitated on this board.

I thought you were joking at my expense. I guess you were actually being serious. What an ill-informed and brainwashed Clinton Appologist you are.

I guess that is why I stopped posting on this forum several years ago as "currentswillshift", I felt much here was beyond repair. The synergy boards had more reasoned individuals.

Looks like "hail hail kc", "cincybearcat" (who I hope is still around), and "jlew24asu" are holding up what is left of the fort.

inmytree

TheCurrentsWillShift wrote:

What a weird bunch some of my fellow fans are.
Your honestly insinuating that my reasoned response to be some sort of e-mail, regurgitated on this board.

I thought you were joking at my expense. I guess you were actually being serious. What an ill-informed and brainwashed Clinton Appologist you are.

I guess that is why I stopped posting on this forum several years ago as "currentswillshift", I felt much here was beyond repair. The synergy boards had more reasoned individuals.

Looks like "hail hail kc", "cincybearcat" (who I hope is still around), and "jlew24asu" are holding up what is left of the fort.

thanks for honoring us with you knowledge and greatness...

anyway, my toe still hurts....fuckin Clinton...what a dick he is...Irak is a quagmire, Afghanistan is unstable again, we are not any safer...and it's all the fault of Slick Willie...

perhaps you could stick around and enlighten us with more of your wit and charm...

FromWayBack

TheCurrentsWillShift wrote:

No, Clinton was attacked and lambasted by the Republican Congress and later the Senate which (because the media were not doing their job). The media was reluctantly pulled into many stories. Near the end the media had no choice but to report, as Fox News was beginning to take away their audience.

Fox news is a direct result of the liberal media bias of the time (still to today). The audience could see what was going on, but media criticism was padded. Instead of reporting right and wrong, the news stopped reporting what was wrong when it came to the President.

Who is playing a role here ???? If President Bush screws up I say it, when President Clinton screwed up I stated it. When George Bush SR. screwed up I stated it. The problem is that too many people have bought into a myth that President Bush has conducted business different from any President before him, faced with difficult circumstances.

The media is the one playing the role here and has warped this perception for it's own liberal agendas. The media created its own monster, caught up in faked stories and using its power to distort emotions and take things out of context. Some sheep continue to believe them wholeheartedly.

Thank god for the blogosphere, otherwise they would continue to get away with it.

Oh, and as far as regret is concerned, give Bush the same time after his presidency to do the same.
All presidents do things they regret, but that does not absolve them because they regret.
The love affair with Clinton is extraordinary.

You'll have to pardon me, see my short memory must have gotten me into trouble again. See when I thought I remembered watching the networks cream Clinton every night, I should've remembered that I was really just watching CSPAN & FOX NEWS.

No one is absolving Clinton of anything, he made his presidential bed and he has to lie in it. Since leaving office, he's apologized for some of the things in his bed. In hopes to clear his record no doubt, but some would say in order to teach future leaders not to make the same mistakes.

I don't know if Bush will express regret like Clinton has done. If anything he'll probably just blame the Allmighty for giving him bad advice.