who would you vote for??

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  • edgarcamp
    edgarcamp Posts: 100
    Yes, until it comes to getting re-elected. Then it becomes about keeping their job. I think some people get involved for the right reason, but that is not what keeps them there. Politics is a sleazy business!
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    hey new to the voting process since i just became a US citizen and a registered one so i need to research any advice from my fellow pj family thanks.....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Ok. Let's pretend all 7,000 of those alleged deleted votes were for John Kerry.

    OLD RESULTS:
    GWB: 56.01%
    KERRY: 43.58%

    NEW RESULTS:
    GWB: 55.91%
    KERRY: 43.70%


    look, i'm not trying to say 'kerry really won NC!!!!' all i'm saying is when a state uses voting machines that delete several thousands of votes, that we know of you can hardly argue the results as being representative.

    7,000 deleted votes seems like something ppl should be up in arms about
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I'll vote for myself as the Massachusetts Secession candidate.

    If I don't win, I will declare personal sovereignty and no longer be bound by any of the laws or policies of the United States. As I own no land (no one does really... all land is owned by the state in the end) I will not be able to declare a claim for my national territory, but dammit, it will feel righteous.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    El_Kabong wrote:
    look, i'm not trying to say 'kerry really won NC!!!!'

    I know you're not. You can't say that because the facts don't support anything close to that. But what you are trying to do is create a reasonable doubt about the margin, hoping that people will assume Kerry really won.
    all i'm saying is when a state uses voting machines that delete several thousands of votes, that we know of you can hardly argue the results as being representative.

    Hehe..."that we know of"...there you go again with that fun "reasonable" doubt thing.

    Regardless, of course you can say it's representative since it has nearly zero bearing on the results. If each and every one of those votes had been counted, not a single thing would have changed.
    7,000 deleted votes seems like something ppl should be up in arms about

    They were. There was an investigation. The cause was discovered. Hopefully the affected localities change their practices.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I know you're not. You can't say that because the facts don't support anything close to that. But what you are trying to do is create a reasonable doubt about the margin, hoping that people will assume Kerry really won.

    no, actually i'm hoping ppl will see the flaws in our electoral system and not permit ANY to happen no matter if it helps the demcrats or republicans...but i guess it's always funner to just assume, eh?

    when it comes to the election of the president of the world's only super power zero irregularites should be allowed to exist.

    farfromglorified wrote:
    Hehe..."that we know of"...there you go again with that fun "reasonable" doubt thing.

    yeah, are you sure there weren't any other irregularities or problems anywhere else? are you comfortable w/ thinking 100% were found?
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Regardless, of course you can say it's representative since it has nearly zero bearing on the results. If each and every one of those votes had been counted, not a single thing would have changed.

    if 100% of the irregularities were caught, then yes...i, however, am skeptical...
    farfromglorified wrote:
    They were. There was an investigation. The cause was discovered. Hopefully the affected localities change their practices.

    i hope so, too
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    El_Kabong wrote:
    no, actually i'm hoping ppl will see the flaws in our electoral system and not permit ANY to happen no matter if it helps the demcrats or republicans...but i guess it's always funner to just assume, eh?

    when it comes to the election of the president of the world's only super power zero irregularites should be allowed to exist.

    Then you better be preparted to ditch the concept of a secret ballot.
    yeah, are you sure there weren't any other irregularities or problems anywhere else? are you comfortable w/ thinking 100% were found?

    I'm not sure that each and every problem was found. But I am comfortable because I'm quite sure that there are no unknown irregularities that actually would have changed the results.

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