i'm sorry, that's ridiculous...there is such a thing called trade secrets and non-compete agreements...and then breach of that leads to easy lawsuits...
It happens all the time, even with salespeople...they offer you additional severence to sign some paperwork that protects them more.
Again, a Democrat only points out the "problems" with this administrations policies but offers up no solutions. Not one idea in Webb's speech on how to fix any of these "problems". Just more liberal hot air. You leftists just get all worked up when someone opposes Bush referring to anyone who does so as a genius. Does substance not matter to you people?
Again, a Democrat only points out the "problems" with this administrations policies but offers up no solutions. Not one idea in Webb's speech on how to fix any of these "problems". Just more liberal hot air. You leftists just get all worked up when someone opposes Bush referring to anyone who does so as a genius. Does substance not matter to you people?
Not that I think Webb is a genius or anything but how much can you possible say in an 8 minute speech. He even mentioned at the beginning of his speech that he is not going to go into all the details just an over view. Lastly Webb is far from a liberal.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Not that I think Webb is a genius or anything but how much can you possible say in an 8 minute speech. He even mentioned at the beginning of his speech that he is not going to go into all the details just an over view. Lastly Webb is far from a liberal.
You can give ideas in an 8 minute speech. He avoids the details of important issues but manages to sqeeze in his family history involving some picture. I'm pretty sure he had plenty of time to offer up some new ideas. Democrats only give overveiws of this adminisrations problems. Never any ideas on how anything should be handled. Webb may not be a liberal but he sure sounded like one last night.
You can give ideas in an 8 minute speech. He avoids the details of important issues but manages to sqeeze in his family history involving some picture. I'm pretty sure he had plenty of time to offer up some new ideas. Democrats only give overveiws of this adminisrations problems. Never any ideas on how anything should be handled. Webb may not be a liberal but he sure sounded like one last night.
To correct you Obama actually made some comments about how we should go ahead in Iraq in an interview following the address. Biden has been putting forth ideas on how to best handle Iraq for about a year now. I also guess that the Republicans, former military and current military personnal are also just blowing liberal hot air when they state their oppostion to the president's plan. It's understandable if you still support this president, I see nothing wrong with that, but it's a bit narrow-minded to believe that only he has the right answers and anyone who doesn't agree is either a liberal or doesn't know what they are talking about. We had a discussion about this I provided fact on top of fact, yet you simply brushed them off as mere opinion. So I guess it doesn't really matter what proof or plan someone presents, if it doesn't gel with your notion of what is correct you can just simply brush it off as garbage.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
You can give ideas in an 8 minute speech. He avoids the details of important issues but manages to sqeeze in his family history involving some picture. I'm pretty sure he had plenty of time to offer up some new ideas. Democrats only give overveiws of this adminisrations problems. Never any ideas on how anything should be handled. Webb may not be a liberal but he sure sounded like one last night.
I just re-read the transcript of the speech and he does mention an alternative to the president's plan for Iraq.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.
That to me looks like he is giving an option that differs than that of the president's and not just stating that the president is wrong. Again you will prbably brush this off because we all know that only you and you alone are right.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.
That to me looks like he is giving an option that differs than that of the president's and not just stating that the president is wrong. Again you will prbably brush this off because we all know that only you and you alone are right.
I stand corrected. He offers up one idea, diplomacy. And yes, I and I alone am right.
A comfortable home, a modest means of transportation, high quality organic food, medical coverage, education for my kids, books and music, Pearl Jam tickets ... all that stuff costs money, and I want all that stuff, so $21.00 isn't going to cut it. But $21 million would be more than adequate. What I have now is adequate, I'm more interested in the "not going to work every day" part of the equation. Time is worth much more than money.
That's a pretty high standard of living by world standards. In fact, I bet much of the world's population would consider you to be not only live adequately, but very richly (considering less than half of the world's population has touched a computer). You are part of the evil rich, hippiemom. By hoarding your resources, you keep them from others because you refuse to help due to your selfish greed. You are part of a machine that oppresses millions (many of which are minority women and children). Your excesses could be given up and would feed hundreds, if not many thousands, across a lifetime. There is blood on your hands, hippiemom. I hope you can sleep at night.
That's a pretty high standard of living by world standards. In fact, I bet much of the world's population would consider you to be not only live adequately, but very richly (considering less than half of the world's population has touched a computer). You are part of the evil rich, hippiemom. By hoarding your resources, you keep them from others because you refuse to help due to your selfish greed. You are part of a machine that oppresses millions (many of which are minority women and children). Your excesses could be given up and would feed hundreds, if not many thousands, across a lifetime. There is blood on your hands, hippiemom. I hope you can sleep at night.
I guess hippiemom is one of the hardest working people in the world.
I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
That's a pretty high standard of living by world standards. In fact, I bet much of the world's population would consider you to be not only live adequately, but very richly (considering less than half of the world's population has touched a computer). You are part of the evil rich, hippiemom. By hoarding your resources, you keep them from others because you refuse to help due to your selfish greed. You are part of a machine that oppresses millions (many of which are minority women and children). Your excesses could be given up and would feed hundreds, if not many thousands, across a lifetime. There is blood on your hands, hippiemom. I hope you can sleep at night.
Fanch, is this any different than someone on the left saying every Republican who doesn't join the fight in Iraq is a hypocrite?
Fanch, is this any different than someone on the left saying every Republican who doesn't join the fight in Iraq is a hypocrite?
My point was that people's judgement of "wealth" and "need" are often based upon their own situation.
To your point, saying that you have to join the fight in Iraq to not be a hypocrit. Well, that'd be like saying that if you didn't volunteer for the police force, you'd be a hypocrite for saying that cops need to catch thieves & killers.
My point was that people's judgement of "wealth" and "need" are often based upon their own situation.
To your point, saying that you have to join the fight in Iraq to not be a hypocrit. Well, that'd be like saying that if you didn't volunteer for the police force, you'd be a hypocrite for saying that cops need to catch thieves & killers.
Well, of course. "Wealth" and "Need" are somewhat relative.
Back to my point, what you said is that a liberal is a hypocrite if he or she doesn't live an ascetic lifestyle. That's no different than saying that every pro-war keyboard general is one, too.
Fanch, is this any different than someone on the left saying every Republican who doesn't join the fight in Iraq is a hypocrite?
It's a little different because his statement is full of hyperbole and he is perhaps posing a question (at the risk of speaking for Fanch, I'm gonna...speak for Fanch) : "Where do you draw the line? Six figures, 8 figures? 5 figures?"
My response is that we should think about whether or not the market is flawed when CEOs make 400 times the average. Do they truly work 400 times harder/smarter than the average person? Of course not. If they make 400 times more than the average, they probably make 200 times more than I. And I find the notion that they have worked 200 times harder than I have to be pretty offensive (though they are all older than I and It'll be more like 150 times by the time I am their age...)
We all know, whether we admit it or not, that there are people taht are born into it. People that have fewer hurdles to climb to get there (I hate to bring the name up, but GWB is the most obvious example).
I don't know where to draw the line at who is greedy and who is "just gettin' by." I guess the CEO that takes $21 million for being fired is more lucky than greedy. CEOs often get HUGE raises and bonuses during bad, job cutting, times, which is a reminder that it is not only government that can run itself poorly and do financially questionable things.
There should always be an income gap--incentive--something to strive for. But workin' folks continue to make less money (in constant dollars) year after year. I find that to be a flaw in the market.*
*Like a Democrat (which I am not), I offer no solution. Just pointing out the problem.
I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
Well, of course. "Wealth" and "Need" are somewhat relative.
Back to my point, what you said is that a liberal is a hypocrite if he or she doesn't live an ascetic lifestyle. That's no different than saying that every pro-war keyboard general is one, too.
Personally, I don't believe either.
Oh I agree, I don't believe that either. I just read all this anger towards wealthy people and just was pointing out the probable wealth of these angry folks. It's so easy to say "Hey you, you're not giving enough!" or "Hey you, you have too much!".
Otherwise, Revenge of the Sith was an awesome movie and I watched it again a few weeks ago. Hellz yeah.
There should always be an income gap--incentive--something to strive for. But workin' folks continue to make less money (in constant dollars) year after year. I find that to be a flaw in the market.*
*Like a Democrat (which I am not), I offer no solution. Just pointing out the problem.
It's a difficult situation, and I'm not sure I have a solution either. In fact, I'm not so sure there is a workable solution outside of trying to convice these people not to award such astronomical sums.
An incentive, perhaps, would be to make these people realize that this won't go on forever. When the gap gets large enough, those on the lower end won't take it anymore, they'll some sort of fucked up revolution, and in the end we'll all suffer.
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It happens all the time, even with salespeople...they offer you additional severence to sign some paperwork that protects them more.
Certainly you are correct with 'trade secrets'.
the initial agreements are usually pretty failsafe...it's sad that people have to offer up this and that to get people to keep their word...
from my window to yours
It is sad, but it is true. The outgoing person would also be giving up any right to sue the company in the agreement as well.
I'm not saying this is always the case, but that it certainly is from time to time and for many different positions, etc.
Not that I think Webb is a genius or anything but how much can you possible say in an 8 minute speech. He even mentioned at the beginning of his speech that he is not going to go into all the details just an over view. Lastly Webb is far from a liberal.
2 Good Speechs and a Fortunate Marriage?
To correct you Obama actually made some comments about how we should go ahead in Iraq in an interview following the address. Biden has been putting forth ideas on how to best handle Iraq for about a year now. I also guess that the Republicans, former military and current military personnal are also just blowing liberal hot air when they state their oppostion to the president's plan. It's understandable if you still support this president, I see nothing wrong with that, but it's a bit narrow-minded to believe that only he has the right answers and anyone who doesn't agree is either a liberal or doesn't know what they are talking about. We had a discussion about this I provided fact on top of fact, yet you simply brushed them off as mere opinion. So I guess it doesn't really matter what proof or plan someone presents, if it doesn't gel with your notion of what is correct you can just simply brush it off as garbage.
I just re-read the transcript of the speech and he does mention an alternative to the president's plan for Iraq.
The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq's cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.
That to me looks like he is giving an option that differs than that of the president's and not just stating that the president is wrong. Again you will prbably brush this off because we all know that only you and you alone are right.
One idea is better than none.
Jim Webb once opposed women in the military by calling the idea "a horny woman's dream."
That's a pretty high standard of living by world standards. In fact, I bet much of the world's population would consider you to be not only live adequately, but very richly (considering less than half of the world's population has touched a computer). You are part of the evil rich, hippiemom. By hoarding your resources, you keep them from others because you refuse to help due to your selfish greed. You are part of a machine that oppresses millions (many of which are minority women and children). Your excesses could be given up and would feed hundreds, if not many thousands, across a lifetime. There is blood on your hands, hippiemom. I hope you can sleep at night.
I guess hippiemom is one of the hardest working people in the world.
I KNEW IT!
You hate America.
My point was that people's judgement of "wealth" and "need" are often based upon their own situation.
To your point, saying that you have to join the fight in Iraq to not be a hypocrit. Well, that'd be like saying that if you didn't volunteer for the police force, you'd be a hypocrite for saying that cops need to catch thieves & killers.
Back to my point, what you said is that a liberal is a hypocrite if he or she doesn't live an ascetic lifestyle. That's no different than saying that every pro-war keyboard general is one, too.
Personally, I don't believe either.
It's a little different because his statement is full of hyperbole and he is perhaps posing a question (at the risk of speaking for Fanch, I'm gonna...speak for Fanch) : "Where do you draw the line? Six figures, 8 figures? 5 figures?"
My response is that we should think about whether or not the market is flawed when CEOs make 400 times the average. Do they truly work 400 times harder/smarter than the average person? Of course not. If they make 400 times more than the average, they probably make 200 times more than I. And I find the notion that they have worked 200 times harder than I have to be pretty offensive (though they are all older than I and It'll be more like 150 times by the time I am their age...)
We all know, whether we admit it or not, that there are people taht are born into it. People that have fewer hurdles to climb to get there (I hate to bring the name up, but GWB is the most obvious example).
I don't know where to draw the line at who is greedy and who is "just gettin' by." I guess the CEO that takes $21 million for being fired is more lucky than greedy. CEOs often get HUGE raises and bonuses during bad, job cutting, times, which is a reminder that it is not only government that can run itself poorly and do financially questionable things.
There should always be an income gap--incentive--something to strive for. But workin' folks continue to make less money (in constant dollars) year after year. I find that to be a flaw in the market.*
*Like a Democrat (which I am not), I offer no solution. Just pointing out the problem.
Oh I agree, I don't believe that either. I just read all this anger towards wealthy people and just was pointing out the probable wealth of these angry folks. It's so easy to say "Hey you, you're not giving enough!" or "Hey you, you have too much!".
Otherwise, Revenge of the Sith was an awesome movie and I watched it again a few weeks ago. Hellz yeah.
Literary - obviously the plot of the movie and Anakin's fall.
Literal - George Lucas trying to make something as good as "The Empire Strikes Back."
An incentive, perhaps, would be to make these people realize that this won't go on forever. When the gap gets large enough, those on the lower end won't take it anymore, they'll some sort of fucked up revolution, and in the end we'll all suffer.