I dont use AT&T but if I did, they might find out I check email and post on message boards
The government set up spy rooms at other telecommunications companies as well. And whether or not you have something to hide is not the point. Doesn't it bother you that the government bypassed laws and was/is conducting illegal surveillance on Americans?
I don;t think I have to. You also don't live where I do.
If anyone else would care to comment I believe my observations are accurate, as I do live in a world class city and have eyes.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
JLew your position seems to be, "i don't give a fuck as long as it doesn't directly affect me."
That is one hell of an attitude. Making one of those oh-so-well-received holocaust references, that is the same attitude the people around the world had when Hitler took poland. "I don't give a fuck, because it doesn't threaten me."
When the founders of our country made provisions for things like no search and seizure with out a warrant, they didn't do it becaues they wanted to protect every two-bit crook in America from prosecution.
You try to turn my arguments around and say "so you suppor this asshole? this criminal?" or things like "well if you aren't doing anything illegal, what have you to worry?"
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT THOSE FUCKING PROVISIONS IN THE GODDAMN CONSTITUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE?
The founding fathers, unlike you, seemed to understand that even the slightest erosion of liberty could soon snowball to encompass innocent folks who did no wrong.
Your assertion about drugs being illegal just shows your ignorance. They may have been made illegal by federal law, but the constitution should have been upheld, striking those laws as unconstitutional.
So your position seems to be, "elected officials should be allowed to make whatever laws they see fit, even in violation of the constitution." and also "Who cares if they are violating the constitution or denying you your rights, because you are a criminal."
That is a pretty fucking mature world view.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I saw on the news last night that the Can/US border might be accepting "Special" Canadian driver's licenses, I'm guessing that means RFID.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
The government set up spy rooms at other telecommunications companies as well. And whether or not you have something to hide is not the point. Doesn't it bother you that the government bypassed laws and was/is conducting illegal surveillance on Americans?
yes it bothers me. but A) they arent looking for me there is enough dissent among people in congress to make this more transparent.
JLew your position seems to be, "i don't give a fuck as long as it doesn't directly affect me."
That is one hell of an attitude. Making one of those oh-so-well-received holocaust references, that is the same attitude the people around the world had when Hitler took poland. "I don't give a fuck, because it doesn't threaten me."
When the founders of our country made provisions for things like no search and seizure with out a warrant, they didn't do it becaues they wanted to protect every two-bit crook in America from prosecution.
You try to turn my arguments around and say "so you suppor this asshole? this criminal?" or things like "well if you aren't doing anything illegal, what have you to worry?"
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT THOSE FUCKING PROVISIONS IN THE GODDAMN CONSTITUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE?
The founding fathers, unlike you, seemed to understand that even the slightest erosion of liberty could soon snowball to encompass innocent folks who did no wrong.
you are getting a little too excited over this. but I'm with ya. keep up the good fight. seriously.
Your assertion about drugs being illegal just shows your ignorance. They may have been made illegal by federal law, but the constitution should have been upheld, striking those laws as unconstitutional.
Can the government make red shirts or nike sneakers illegal?
if enough people pressure their congress reps, a rep brings it to the floor, and voting happens and it passes, then yes. but you knew all this already right?
if enough people pressure their congress reps, a rep brings it to the floor, and voting happens and it passes, then yes. but you knew all this already right?
do you always answer a question with a question? pot has been illegal for over 100 years I think?
but you claim its unconstitutional because big bad government is taking away your god given right to have fun.
You realize that marijuana was made illegal because of a government\big business spread fear of "The DRUG CRAZED NEGRO", right?
It was a scam.
Congress can pass whatever the fuck law they want.
It is the job of the Supreme Court to rule such laws unconstitutional.
In this case, i simply blame all three branches of government.
The assholes in congress who wrote it, the fucker that signed it, and the shitbags that have for 100 years refused to rule it unconstitutional.
You avoided my question, which was a socratic response to yours.
I don't care what congress says.
IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL?
I hear what you are saying and i detest it.
The crux of your arguments today have revolved around one stance: "The constitution doens't mean shit. Even though it created this whole system including congress, I think that congress should be above the constitution, and whatever they say goes, regardless of the law that created their authority."
Do or do you not deny that you have consistently represented your arguments on the grounds of simple disregard for constitutional freedom and liberty?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
You realize that marijuana was made illegal because of a government\big business spread fear of "The DRUG CRAZED NEGRO", right?
It was a scam.
Congress can pass whatever the fuck law they want.
It is the job of the Supreme Court to rule such laws unconstitutional.
In this case, i simply blame all three branches of government.
The assholes in congress who wrote it, the fucker that signed it, and the shitbags that have for 100 years refused to rule it unconstitutional.
You avoided my question, which was a socratic response to yours.
I don't care what congress says.
IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL?
I hear what you are saying and i detest it.
The crux of your arguments today have revolved around one stance: "The constitution doens't mean shit. Even though it created this whole system including congress, I think that congress should be above the constitution, and whatever they say goes, regardless of the law that created their authority."
Do or do you not deny that you have consistently represented your arguments on the grounds of simple disregard for constitutional freedom and liberty?
am I on trial here on something? sorry but I just dont see how pot being illegal is unconstitutional just because you are a pothead.
write a letter to your congressmen and tell him you want it legalized. there are plenty of avenues you can take besides bitching about our government on a message board.
We already have social security numbers folks. WE ARE ALREADY NUMBERS IN THE SYSTEM. Why are you all so scared of advanced social security cards? It is like my parents being scared to buy stuff from the internet. Enough already.
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So... do you really hold that much trust in the Government?
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Hail, Hail!!!
Because the government needs to know where you are at all times, and to be able to trace your steps in case something goes wrong. its neccesary for our safety. And your safety is far more important than your freedom.
Patrick Henry was wrong when he said ""Give me liberty or give me death." What he should have said was "PLEASE DONT FUCKING KILL ME MAN!! I'll DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, JUST LET ME LIVE!!!"
I saw on the news last night that the Can/US border might be accepting "Special" Canadian driver's licenses, I'm guessing that means RFID.
I don't think Canada is going RFID...just the hologram glowing blingy thing so the US border guards can look at them and go all googly eyed and trip balls...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I don't think Canada is going RFID...just the hologram glowing blingy thing so the US border guards can look at them and go all googly eyed and trip balls...
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It harder to copy the bling, and still wear a turban,, so the US says it's ok.
More people drive into the US than fly as approx 40% of Canadians carry passports. The US is/was demanding passports so this is our workaround to pacify them
"If it's blingy, it's safe, you may enter..."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Why is it that you always have to say this? As if people living in the US are paying more attention to what are gov't is doing or trying to selectively implement. Half the country are totally complacent as what our governing body is doing.
So if someone outside this country cares enough to voice his or her opinion and is up to date on our government's actions.....Well more power to them, we need more people paying attention from outside the US or we become exactly what this administration wants..Non Political Zombies.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The government set up spy rooms at other telecommunications companies as well. And whether or not you have something to hide is not the point. Doesn't it bother you that the government bypassed laws and was/is conducting illegal surveillance on Americans?
some folks just dont get it, wont get it, or cant get it...
they will boast how great the country is, then allow what makes it great to be stolen from them... all with a shrug... "i dont do anything wrong"...
failing to see the MUCH larger picture
hopefully enough of us do undertand and stay vocal
because i realize our rights are being stolen and i dont like it?
history will show who was on the right side of this one...
do you know anything about the Patriot Act? if so, feel free to expand.
I'm not sure he will....remember he has nothing to hide and man have I ever heard that line many times before or when the Patriot Act was being enacted.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about". it's only for our National Security.....Pure nonsense.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I used to get so pissed off at shit like this. Still do-To a lesser extent. Almost given up on society at this point. If it can't stand up for itself its really not worth getting worked up about. If protesters don't get out of there quaranteened innefectual zones they aren't protesting at all. If ppl don't see something wrong with National ID cards they deserve the consequnces.
because i realize our rights are being stolen and i dont like it?
like I said, keep fighting the good fight but Team Tin Hat gets much too excited over the patriot act. team leader wackjob is actually concerned he might be dubbed an enemy combatant one day. laffs
do you know anything about the Patriot Act? if so, feel free to expand.
yes I do. do you know what the Security and Freedom Ensured Act is? I bet you dont. look it up.
there are 300 million people living in this country. you seem to think the government is out to get you, but its not. the patriot act is not designed to go after you. there are enough good people in government looking to uphold the constitution and maintain our freedoms. we live in a free country, sometimes that exposes us to people who want to harm us. the patriot act is there to try and catch them.
you are drifitin seriously need to get laid. life's not so bad.
I'm not sure he will....remember he has nothing to hide and man have I ever heard that line many times before or when the Patriot Act was being enacted.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about". it's only for our National Security.....Pure nonsense.
Peace
you have something you want to say to me? if not keep you comments about me to yourself.
I used to get so pissed off at shit like this. Still do-To a lesser extent. Almost given up on society at this point. If it can't stand up for itself its really not worth getting worked up about. If protesters don't get out of there quaranteened innefectual zones they aren't protesting at all. If ppl don't see something wrong with National ID cards they deserve the consequnces.
commy? I thought you would applaud national ID cards
you have something you want to say to me? if not keep you comments about me to yourself.
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He's right, you're not at the center of the universe as you would seem to indicate. Are you going to like beat him up or something?
lol...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The government set up spy rooms at other telecommunications companies as well. And whether or not you have something to hide is not the point. Doesn't it bother you that the government bypassed laws and was/is conducting illegal surveillance on Americans?
I don;t think I have to. You also don't live where I do.
If anyone else would care to comment I believe my observations are accurate, as I do live in a world class city and have eyes.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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That is one hell of an attitude. Making one of those oh-so-well-received holocaust references, that is the same attitude the people around the world had when Hitler took poland. "I don't give a fuck, because it doesn't threaten me."
When the founders of our country made provisions for things like no search and seizure with out a warrant, they didn't do it becaues they wanted to protect every two-bit crook in America from prosecution.
You try to turn my arguments around and say "so you suppor this asshole? this criminal?" or things like "well if you aren't doing anything illegal, what have you to worry?"
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT THOSE FUCKING PROVISIONS IN THE GODDAMN CONSTITUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE?
The founding fathers, unlike you, seemed to understand that even the slightest erosion of liberty could soon snowball to encompass innocent folks who did no wrong.
Your assertion about drugs being illegal just shows your ignorance. They may have been made illegal by federal law, but the constitution should have been upheld, striking those laws as unconstitutional.
So your position seems to be, "elected officials should be allowed to make whatever laws they see fit, even in violation of the constitution." and also "Who cares if they are violating the constitution or denying you your rights, because you are a criminal."
That is a pretty fucking mature world view.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
One man on an island so to speak.
anyhow... I'm off to the gym...
keep it hard..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
yes it bothers me. but A) they arent looking for me
how is pot being illegal unconstitutional?
Can the government make red shirts or nike sneakers illegal?
On what grounds is marijuana illegal?
It is bad for me?
Pfft.
How is pot being illegal CONSTITUTIONAL?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
do you always answer a question with a question? pot has been illegal for over 100 years I think?
but you claim its unconstitutional because big bad government is taking away your god given right to have fun.
You realize that marijuana was made illegal because of a government\big business spread fear of "The DRUG CRAZED NEGRO", right?
It was a scam.
Congress can pass whatever the fuck law they want.
It is the job of the Supreme Court to rule such laws unconstitutional.
In this case, i simply blame all three branches of government.
The assholes in congress who wrote it, the fucker that signed it, and the shitbags that have for 100 years refused to rule it unconstitutional.
You avoided my question, which was a socratic response to yours.
I don't care what congress says.
IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL?
I hear what you are saying and i detest it.
The crux of your arguments today have revolved around one stance: "The constitution doens't mean shit. Even though it created this whole system including congress, I think that congress should be above the constitution, and whatever they say goes, regardless of the law that created their authority."
Do or do you not deny that you have consistently represented your arguments on the grounds of simple disregard for constitutional freedom and liberty?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
am I on trial here on something? sorry but I just dont see how pot being illegal is unconstitutional just because you are a pothead.
write a letter to your congressmen and tell him you want it legalized. there are plenty of avenues you can take besides bitching about our government on a message board.
Try asking yourself one more time, "how do i see pot being illegal as being specificaly constitutional."
?
On what grounds does the government have a right to tell me what i can and cant injest in my own body?
THEY DO NOT.
You aren't on trial, but your statements certainly hold you accountable to scrutiny.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
do you feel all narcotics should be legal?
So... do you really hold that much trust in the Government?
Hail, Hail!!!
Because the government needs to know where you are at all times, and to be able to trace your steps in case something goes wrong. its neccesary for our safety. And your safety is far more important than your freedom.
Patrick Henry was wrong when he said ""Give me liberty or give me death." What he should have said was "PLEASE DONT FUCKING KILL ME MAN!! I'll DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, JUST LET ME LIVE!!!"
I don't think Canada is going RFID...just the hologram glowing blingy thing so the US border guards can look at them and go all googly eyed and trip balls...
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/184496
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
What's so special about a blingy hologram?
It harder to copy the bling, and still wear a turban,, so the US says it's ok.
More people drive into the US than fly as approx 40% of Canadians carry passports. The US is/was demanding passports so this is our workaround to pacify them
"If it's blingy, it's safe, you may enter..."
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Why is it that you always have to say this? As if people living in the US are paying more attention to what are gov't is doing or trying to selectively implement. Half the country are totally complacent as what our governing body is doing.
So if someone outside this country cares enough to voice his or her opinion and is up to date on our government's actions.....Well more power to them, we need more people paying attention from outside the US or we become exactly what this administration wants..Non Political Zombies.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
some folks just dont get it, wont get it, or cant get it...
they will boast how great the country is, then allow what makes it great to be stolen from them... all with a shrug... "i dont do anything wrong"...
failing to see the MUCH larger picture
hopefully enough of us do undertand and stay vocal
post of the month club right here
you have officially been added to Team Tin Hat
why?
because i realize our rights are being stolen and i dont like it?
history will show who was on the right side of this one...
do you know anything about the Patriot Act? if so, feel free to expand.
I'm not sure he will....remember he has nothing to hide and man have I ever heard that line many times before or when the Patriot Act was being enacted.
"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about". it's only for our National Security.....Pure nonsense.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
yes I do. do you know what the Security and Freedom Ensured Act is? I bet you dont. look it up.
there are 300 million people living in this country. you seem to think the government is out to get you, but its not. the patriot act is not designed to go after you. there are enough good people in government looking to uphold the constitution and maintain our freedoms. we live in a free country, sometimes that exposes us to people who want to harm us. the patriot act is there to try and catch them.
you are drifitin seriously need to get laid. life's not so bad.
you have something you want to say to me? if not keep you comments about me to yourself.
commy? I thought you would applaud national ID cards
He's right, you're not at the center of the universe as you would seem to indicate. Are you going to like beat him up or something?
lol...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")