high all....awesome news...just awesome it is.......cannabis

Collin

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

you ignorant fucking potheads never give up...

hehehe...........

You made my day! I always laugh when I see that...

luxpjamer

A Surprise Left wrote:

protect our mother? you have got to be kidding right? heroin is derived from "mother earth" as well. should we all become junkies as well? :rolleyes:

Poppy and coca for everyone...:rolleyes:

onelongsong

A Surprise Left wrote:

protect our mother? you have got to be kidding right? heroin is derived from "mother earth" as well. should we all become junkies as well? :rolleyes:

herion is a refined substance taken from nature. it's cousins are used medically every day. what's your point?

luxpjamer

onelongsong wrote:

herion is a refined substance taken from nature. it's cousins are used medically every day. what's your point?

I think we are talking about mother earth's gifts wich are misused as dope, to getting high. All the substance that people just don't should use. I think theres a difference between a junkie using opium and a person with a cancer wich need morphium, or?

Collin

luxpjamer wrote:

I think we are talking about mother earth's gifts wich are misused as dope, to getting high.

What's wrong with getting high?

melodious

sorry didn't see thread on main board......

melodious

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

hehehehehe............

pleasure meeting you..............

you made my day.......

no worry m ready, u make my day too...me use defense mechanism sometime out of time....be happy and be what and who you want to be...believe in you and know you are only one who paves the way....

A Surprise Left

onelongsong wrote:

herion is a refined substance taken from nature. it's cousins are used medically every day. what's your point?

i was rebutting melodious point about dope coming from mother earth and his/her quite strange point about "protecting our mother earth." because something is natural, doesn't mean it should be used or indeed abused.

melodious

A Surprise Left wrote:

i was rebutting melodious point about dope coming from mother earth and his/her quite strange point about "protecting our mother earth." because something is natural, doesn't mean it should be used or indeed abused.

here's a surprize for ya....;) runs off to find name of this given fallacy, but too lazy, so i will just say, is this before or after "civilized" society and drug czar came into place...you see, you have to look before there was modernizaton to see things how i do...i am a being who tries to walk this planet as if we didn't have all the noise to interfere with us and god...i don't obey laws that society has made, but I do try to flow with a code of animals and species..(by doing so, i avoid violating man's laws ..say....what if another animal lives of these plants that czar has made so taboo...what about ancient cultures? were they addicted too? did the incas warn their people about addiction when they celebrated in a ceremonial ritual.....just my side of thought...

btw...you jammers are some of my favorite people...love ya i do....

luxpjamer

Collin wrote:

What's wrong with getting high?

Nothing, just when it makes you dependent of it, or? I understand when someone sometimes smokes a joint but this hasn't to happen everyday or? It don't have to be an habit. I like to get drunk sometimes, I think it helps you come back to the ground, the day after when you are filling shitty but this hasn't to happen everyday. I think you understand my post. The problem is the dependance. I'm essentally talking about Cocaine(crack,...) and Heroin(Opium,...)

melodious

i think i've told you all that i have the Hep C. I never shot drugs either; somehow I got this virus...Doc tells me that opiates are not hard for liver to process, it's what they put with it, the cut, so to speak....

opium rocks, if ya ever have a chance......;) but i can introduce ya to something equally as potent..called cannabutter...

we have a friend who almost tore his leg off in a concrete job...he had to remain calm to tell his crew how to get him out of the rebar and freshy poured concrete...his leg manged almsot had to cut it off...he is in so much pain becasue it only happened a month or so ago...

gave him a dose, of course he's a patient, but he said it's the ony thing that took him out of his pain while under spelll......

let'z break this down a bit, heroin, crack, alcohol, all man made substances to control and use other humans to do your dirty work...it's man that has created these and it's man that creates negative stigma to eradicate nautre...man cannot buy nature...man doesn't even care or know nautre..some say they do as they climb into their SUV's or all terrain vehicles to go dirt bike riding....me i will stick to nature and dream a lil dream of free...

luxpjamer

melodious wrote:

i think i've told you all that i have the Hep C. I never shot drugs either; somehow I got this virus...Doc tells me that opiates are not hard for liver to process, it's what they put with it, the cut, so to speak....

opium rocks, if ya ever have a chance......;) but i can introduce ya to something equally as potent..called cannabutter...

we have a friend who almost tore his leg off in a concrete job...he had to remain calm to tell his crew how to get him out of the rebar and freshy poured concrete...his leg manged almsot had to cut it off...he is in so much pain becasue it only happened a month or so ago...

gave him a dose, of course he's a patient, but he said it's the ony thing that took him out of his pain while under spelll......

let'z break this down a bit, heroin, crack, alcohol, all man made substances to control and use other humans to do your dirty work...it's man that has created these and it's man that creates negative stigma to eradicate nautre...man cannot buy nature...man doesn't even care or know nautre..some say they do as they climb into their SUV's or all terrain vehicles to go dirt bike riding....me i will stick to nature and dream a lil dream of free...

Have you try Interferrons therapy?

melodious

luxpjamer wrote:

Have you try Interferrons therapy?

no. i won't unless i am critical...liver on a scale of 1-4 is 3/4 inflamed and on scale of 1-4 1/4 scarred..I simply listen to my body and it's needs; keep a scheduled existence; realize limitiations (very difficult sometimes) and make certain i get rest along with nutritions...

i have been diagnones now for 5 years; my liver doesn't get any bigger or agittated becasue i refuse to put things in me that will irritate;;;;; that means cannabutte too... i don't do 3/4 of what I support; I just know if I don't get out there and make a stand for those who I may not participate with, but aren't doing any harm....that the big machine will suck us all in...

hep c is niceley put as chronic fatigue syndrome; for one that should experience illenss and infections, i am in the third week of bronchitis, although slowly, it is going away: i have worked during this time overtime and six days a week to help at my lil job..

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no antibiotics; just immune power!!!!

luxpjamer

melodious wrote:

no. i won't unless i am critical...liver on a scale of 1-4 is 3/4 inflamed and on scale of 1-4 1/4 scarred..I simply listen to my body and it's needs; keep a scheduled existence; realize limitiations (very difficult sometimes) and make certain i get rest along with nutritions...

i have been diagnones now for 5 years; my liver doesn't get any bigger or agittated becasue i refuse to put things in me that will irritate;;;;; that means cannabutte too... i don't do 3/4 of what I support; I just know if I don't get out there and make a stand for those who I may not participate with, but aren't doing any harm....that the big machine will suck us all in...

hep c is niceley put as chronic fatigue syndrome; for one that should experience illenss and infections, i am in the third week of bronchitis, although slowly, it is going away: i have worked during this time overtime and six days a week to help at my lil job..

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no antibiotics; just immune power!!!!

But why don't you take alpha-Interferon with ribvarin almost 50-80% healing chances with this combinated therapie? Do you know that after 10-20 years in 20% of the cases a smaller liver is diagnosticated and it's one of the main causes for liver cancer or a total liver break down may result. Are you on a transplantation list? Don't wanna teach you but in my eyes it would make sense if you take this combinated therapie.

melodious

luxpjamer wrote:

But why don't you take alpha-Interferon with ribvarin almost 50-80% healing chances with this combinated therapie? Do you know that after 10-20 years in 20% of the cases a smaller liver is diagnosticated and it's one of the main causes for liver cancer or a total liver break down may result. Are you on a transplantation list? Don't wanna teach you but in my eyes it would make sense if you take this combinated therapie.

thank you for your concerns, luxpjamer

I don't think my conditon has progressed enough to take the treatment. The real truth is I am afraid to. Other than not being able to sleep on my right side, and constant fatigue, I live one day at a time. I am chicken...but beyond the fear, I cannot see myself shooting up this medicine in my own liver...I am a chicken....

If the u.s gov't grants me SSI becasue I live under poverty conditions becasue I can't make ability to benefit; and I win, I will have peace enough mind to think aobut such a committment...If they don't approve me with medical and supplement money to help me live, how can I take this medicine when my bills aren't being paid becasue I'm not working? catch 22 for me and so many others out there..No I am not on any list..in fact I went to the same doctors who diagnosed me last week for bronchitis flair, up and they didn't even say a word to me...It's really interesting how doctors will say how much you need treatment when they could be brokering some funds form pharmi companies, but when it comes down to helping and getting the help that WE pay into to get bette,they don't really care...

I applied for help from gov't last June and am waiting to hear their denial...I will take it to court this time, becasue I cannot work and really focus in the job environment when I have underlyinhg health issues taking a toll on my concentration level.....I am good for about 23 hours of work and that is light duty with little resposniblity...

In the meantime, it's milkthistle, ginseng, vitamin b-12, and more vitamin b-12, but i am broke right now so i haven't taken vitamins for 3 weeks...

again thank you....happy belated solstice.....

luxpjamer

melodious wrote:

thank you for your concerns, luxpjamer

I don't think my conditon has progressed enough to take the treatment. The real truth is I am afraid to. Other than not being able to sleep on my right side, and constant fatigue, I live one day at a time. I am chicken...but beyond the fear, I cannot see myself shooting up this medicine in my own liver...I am a chicken....

If the u.s gov't grants me SSI becasue I live under poverty conditions becasue I can't make ability to benefit; and I win, I will have peace enough mind to think aobut such a committment...If they don't approve me with medical and supplement money to help me live, how can I take this medicine when my bills aren't being paid becasue I'm not working? catch 22 for me and so many others out there..No I am not on any list..in fact I went to the same doctors who diagnosed me last week for bronchitis flair, up and they didn't even say a word to me...It's really interesting how doctors will say how much you need treatment when they could be brokering some funds form pharmi companies, but when it comes down to helping and getting the help that WE pay into to get bette,they don't really care...

I applied for help from gov't last June and am waiting to hear their denial...I will take it to court this time, becasue I cannot work and really focus in the job environment when I have underlyinhg health issues taking a toll on my concentration level.....I am good for about 23 hours of work and that is light duty with little resposniblity...

In the meantime, it's milkthistle, ginseng, vitamin b-12, and more vitamin b-12, but i am broke right now so i haven't taken vitamins for 3 weeks...

again thank you....happy belated solstice.....

This is just desgusting...Sorry but when I read things like that I HATE the U.S. Governement, they spent billions of Dollar for Guns, Tanks, Airplanes for a war without any sense but aren't able to assure a medical insurance for the people in their own country. It's incomprehensible that such a country sees themself as the number one country in the world...
Here in Luxembourg, think in all western europe, we have Social security, mutual aid fund and if you would live here the traitement would be taking in charge by them. I work in a psychiatry and I see some people with Hep C who have no money not even an home and they are traited with the needed medication, mostly junkies who have hep c because of needle sharing and prostitution... And the only things you receive are Vitamins and homeopathic substances.
Think that the u.s. gov never heard anything about Human Rights or about laws like "non-assistance to people in danger"...
I'm really sorry for you (even if this won't help you)

melodious

yep...disgusting and 40% of our prison pop has hepC...do you know what that means? it means that they die in prison becasue no medical help...it means when they get out, they spread it more...i didn't ever shoot drugs, but as a kid i did use powders; recreational non herb substances are killers and that is so important to learn and know and share knowledge or experiences so others think... saddest part about it is that i believed.....i believed that i have given my enitre adult years to my communtiy as a tutor and literacy tutor and teaching esl here in lake coutny...when i went to ask my county for help to pay my bills becasue i do own my house in full, they wanted me to sign over the title of my house for help...now a damn dead-beat can get genral relief and not sign anything.....too f*king real....that's life, and i can't deny...it....

and it don't stop....

and it won't stop...

but having joy and happiness is good medicine......good to meet you...lux

you good med, like many here.......;)

luxpjamer

melodious wrote:

yep...disgusting and 40% of our prison pop has hepC...do you know what that means? it means that they die in prison becasue no medical help...it means when they get out, they spread it more...i didn't ever shoot drugs, but as a kid i did use powders; recreational non herb substances are killers and that is so important to learn and know and share knowledge or experiences so others think... saddest part about it is that i believed.....i believed that i have given my enitre adult years to my communtiy as a tutor and literacy tutor and teaching esl here in lake coutny...when i went to ask my county for help to pay my bills becasue i do own my house in full, they wanted me to sign over the title of my house for help...now a damn dead-beat can get genral relief and not sign anything.....too f*king real....that's life, and i can't deny...it....

and it don't stop....

and it won't stop...

but having joy and happiness is good medicine......good to meet you...lux

you good med, like many here.......;)

You're welcome

Merry christmas