You are right, and you are wrong. You see CorporateWhore, given moderate doses, the only effects are memory loss and they are short term effects. There have also been studies that show how it helps people with Alzheimers and various other disorders. However, smoking large amounts on a consistent basis CAN fuck up your brain. It's also been proven that smoking large amounts of pot for years can actually lead to schizophrenia.
Another myth, "you will get throat or lung cancer". Also false, its non-carcenogenic. However, long-term havitual use can lead to chronic bronchitis and other throat/lung problems.
It's all about moderation.
Which came first,
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
You are right, and you are wrong. You see CorporateWhore, given moderate doses, the only effects are memory loss and they are short term effects. There have also been studies that show how it helps people with Alzheimers and various other disorders. However, smoking large amounts on a consistent basis CAN fuck up your brain. It's also been proven that smoking large amounts of pot for years can actually lead to schizophrenia.
Another myth, "you will get throat or lung cancer". Also false, its non-carcenogenic. However, long-term havitual use can lead to chronic bronchitis and other throat/lung problems.
It's all about moderation.
Although I am a firm supporter of legalizing Marijuana, I have a hard time believing that the smoke is "non-carcenogenic" when the smoke contains Benzyprene ( a known carcinogen). Breathing any kind of smoke is in no way healthy for your lungs. If nothing else, the carbon monoxide and tar created when you burn it are very bad for your lungs, just as in cigarettes. If we were able to legally purchase amounts that we could use for eating and drinking it would be a great alternative, though. I don't know if it's been "proven that smoking large amounts of pot for years can lead to schizophrenia", although there is probably a corrolation with people that smoke marijuana who might already be prone to schizophrenia becomming schizophrenic. And I don't know if there has ever been anything proven that marijuana causes long term brain dammage. Any studies that I've read have shown that if the chronic heavy user stops smoking the negative effects deminish and learning/memory skills improve. I say do everything in moderation and you won't have to worry about the bullshit that comes with overindulgment.
Now see, here's a case of actual injustice Marc Emery.
That guy in the article above got off on a techincality, but he's obviously a drug dealer. 35,000+ plants is not thriving off of plants, he didn't build his house with it, he sold it to people for the purpose of intoxication. This is a massive grow op, and that is illegal.
I smoke pot, I love it, but I think there is a big difference between personal use, or like Marc Emery selling seeds, and being a major drug dealer. Unless there is something I'm missing here, did he use his profits to benefit underpriviliged kids or something?
EDIT: Whoops should have read more, medical grower my bad.
I believe Emery donated a large amounts of his profits....he is just an example of us selling "criminals" to the USA.....I hope they do not extradite the man.....
marijuana does not actually have any long term negative effects on the brain. it is quite helpful in many cases where people have issues with migraine headaches, appetite problems, sleep disorders, multiple sclerosis, and so on. it has helped me immensely to alleviate problems with migraines and the nausea and insomnia that result from the migraines. i know of many others who have benefited from its use. people also use it recreationally, and i do that as well. i don't have a problem with people smoking or consuming marijuana either way, whether it be for medicinal purposes or for recreational purposes.
oooohhhhh mookie, how the hek are ya.....? thanks for dropping in...tell these folks how plants are made for man's use before society put chainz on us...tell them how each plant is perfect for it's use...gotta go to work, but it sure as hek is great to see you toooooooooooooooooooo.
funny, i have searched through all the asa lists, norml, etc that come into the inbox, and there is no word about this except at jack's blog...i'll be back as soon as ican with more....i would like to discuss practical application of these plants that give more proof about how our gov't is trying to play off generations and use ignorance and hiding important info under the carpet so to speak.....
what about all the other uses, mookie....grandfather, please tell us how......
all insanity:
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
I believe Emery donated a large amounts of his profits....he is just an example of us selling "criminals" to the USA.....I hope they do not extradite the man.....
me too.....i'll be back...always love to hear your wisdom, RiC..........did we ever talk about the san pedro cactus????
all insanity:
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
Now see, here's a case of actual injustice Marc Emery.
That guy in the article above got off on a techincality, but he's obviously a drug dealer. 35,000+ plants is not thriving off of plants, he didn't build his house with it, he sold it to people for the purpose of intoxication. This is a massive grow op, and that is illegal.
I smoke pot, I love it, but I think there is a big difference between personal use, or like Marc Emery selling seeds, and being a major drug dealer. Unless there is something I'm missing here, did he use his profits to benefit underpriviliged kids or something?
EDIT: Whoops should have read more, medical grower my bad.
Of course, if he were brewing large vats of beer to be sold to people for the purpose of intoxication he would be called a "businessman".
Cannabis studies include one that suggests that cannabis may be less likely to cause emphysema or cancer than tobacco; other studies have suggested that cannabis may be less likely to cause birth defects or developmental delays in the children of users. According to a United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol in social harms, physical harm and addiction.
Research between the use of cannabis and mental illness has also brought significant results. Cannabis use has generally higher among sufferers of schizophrenia, but the causality between the two has not been established. Another study concluded that sustained early-adolescent cannabis use among genetically predisposed individuals has been associated with a variety of mental illness outcomes; ranging from psychotic episodes to clinical schizophrenia.
You do not seem to get the gest of my purpose; it's not about getting high. It's about a human being having a right to thrive on this planet as our ancestors have in times past.
I truly believe in the name of god and the universe, that cannabis/ hemp is the cornerstone to the earth's photosynthesizing processes...(scientists help me because i know there's a better word). Have you ever wondered about how folks during Micheangelo's ages lit their homes? It was with hemp oil...
Have you studied social studies and touched over the concept of cottage industries? What exactly do you think they spun on those spinning wheels? gold? No it was different fibres of hemp. Each strand's width depended on the size of the stalk...
Furthermore, I have recently come to learn that hemp was used as far back as Egyptian pyramids. The plaster was composed of different minerals and hemp fibres to bind it...;)
i'm surprised you didn't touch on the medical benefits. several synthetic and extract pills exist. it's helped people like montel williams and rodney dangerfield among thousands of others. in this modern day; there is no need for someone to suffer because of an illness.
next is the financial aspect. there is $90 billion dollars of american grown pot sold each year. taxed at the standard rate; the income from taxes would pay the national debt; and then some.
the economical reasons are supported by the number of tobacco farmers that will lose their farms due to the decrease in the use of tobacco. this will put thousands in the welfare system. a regulated and taxed growing program would bring new life to the economy and help these depressed areas.
medical research will also gain as more will be known and different variaties bring different benefits. for example; hawiian sativa is a stimulant and you'll work for hours whereas hawiian indica will make you rest and tranquilize you.
it doesn't promote usage; many of us started BECAUSE it was illegal and we were in the rebellion stage. i know many many people but i only know 2 that don't smoke. it would shock you to learn that many of them smoke. from looking at them; you'd never guess.
after waiting in line for over an hour to pick up a Rx; i asked the manager what the problem was. he said insurance requires employees be drug tested and no one can pass the test.
they say pot leads to harder drugs but they don't tell you it's because when someone smokes; they realize that they were lied to about the effects; the next thought is maybe they lied about acid too. my opinion on this point is based on my high school mates and my experience seeing this happen.
sorry to rabbit on but someone had to say it.
marijuana does not actually have any long term negative effects on the brain. it is quite helpful in many cases where people have issues with migraine headaches, appetite problems, sleep disorders, multiple sclerosis, and so on. it has helped me immensely to alleviate problems with migraines and the nausea and insomnia that result from the migraines. i know of many others who have benefited from its use. people also use it recreationally, and i do that as well. i don't have a problem with people smoking or consuming marijuana either way, whether it be for medicinal purposes or for recreational purposes.
Please learn about the drug you are doing before you speak on it. Nonetheless, I think you should be legally allowed to do marijuana.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
Please learn about the drug you are doing before you speak on it. Nonetheless, I think you should be legally allowed to do marijuana.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
So..........where's the part about how it's "proven to fuck up your brain"?
Just read it. Or are you so stoned you can't process intellectual information?
Hehe!
"A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time."
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Please learn about the drug you are doing before you speak on it. Nonetheless, I think you should be legally allowed to do marijuana.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
i got great grades and went on to be a successful business man while fronting a popular band evenings and weekends.
what isn't mentioned is the line between use and abuse. alcohol abuse reprecussions are staggering; yet having a cocktail with dinner has medicinal benefits. twisting one up and watching everybody loves raymond in the evening before bed can clear ones mind and prepare them for the next day.
Please learn about the drug you are doing before you speak on it. Nonetheless, I think you should be legally allowed to do marijuana.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
So what? This is only proof that anything done in excess is harmfull. moderation is the key. Anyway i would like to know what this studies defenition of heavy marijuana users is.
Just read it. Or are you so stoned you can't process intellectual information?
Hehe!
"A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time."
I guess we have different perceptions on what a "fucked up brain" is. In that article it also stated that they regain the skills after having not smoked it for a while..........Of course a person that smokes marijuana every day is going to be in a little bit of a blur whether they admit it or not. I sure was. Still, that does not mean that they've suffered brain dammage. I would argue that their attention has just been diverted elsewhere. This statement is far from being able to say "proven that it fucks up your brain". Did you know that in brain scans of people who smoke marijuana there are increased Alpha brain waves (associated with creativity). And people who smoke at moderate levels (once or twice a week) score better on I.Q. tests than they did before?
Although I am a firm supporter of legalizing Marijuana, I have a hard time believing that the smoke is "non-carcenogenic" when the smoke contains Benzyprene ( a known carcinogen). Breathing any kind of smoke is in no way healthy for your lungs. If nothing else, the carbon monoxide and tar created when you burn it are very bad for your lungs, just as in cigarettes. If we were able to legally purchase amounts that we could use for eating and drinking it would be a great alternative, though. I don't know if it's been "proven that smoking large amounts of pot for years can lead to schizophrenia", although there is probably a corrolation with people that smoke marijuana who might already be prone to schizophrenia becomming schizophrenic. And I don't know if there has ever been anything proven that marijuana causes long term brain dammage. Any studies that I've read have shown that if the chronic heavy user stops smoking the negative effects deminish and learning/memory skills improve. I say do everything in moderation and you won't have to worry about the bullshit that comes with overindulgment.
what isn't mentioned is the line between use and abuse. alcohol abuse reprecussions are staggering; yet having a cocktail with dinner has medicinal benefits. twisting one up and watching everybody loves raymond in the evening before bed can clear ones mind and prepare them for the next day.
You are correct. And the medical uses are a definite plus.
And I love corporatewhore quoting a government agency to defend his position. Isn't the government the one keeping it illegal?
How pot has remained illegal and alcohol legal is beyond me.
lobbyists. the black market stands to lose billions in illegal drug trafficing. the drug companies stand to lose millions because of all the medical problems pot is known to help. ie: heart disease; stroke; gluacoma; cancer; ms; and the list keeps growing.
i got great grades and went on to be a successful business man while fronting a popular band evenings and weekends.
what isn't mentioned is the line between use and abuse. alcohol abuse reprecussions are staggering; yet having a cocktail with dinner has medicinal benefits. twisting one up and watching everybody loves raymond in the evening before bed can clear ones mind and prepare them for the next day.
I never said that moderate use was wrong either. I'm just saying, I know a lot of people in my frat who are abusers of marijuana. They do it everyday as often as possible.
It is certainly possible to not abuse marijuana and still use it, I realize.
Then there's also the fact that some people just don't need drugs to enhance their life experience. I'm not one of those people, though.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
i got great grades and went on to be a successful business man while fronting a popular band evenings and weekends.
what isn't mentioned is the line between use and abuse. alcohol abuse reprecussions are staggering; yet having a cocktail with dinner has medicinal benefits. twisting one up and watching everybody loves raymond in the evening before bed can clear ones mind and prepare them for the next day.
I also smoked casually and never affected my grades or my profesional life. Most if not all my friends are regular users and had great grades and have great carreers.
Please learn about the drug you are doing before you speak on it. Nonetheless, I think you should be legally allowed to do marijuana.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
Funny because to me that is so far from the truth....became a consistent smoker in university every subsequant year of smoking my grades improved (minimum 5%/year). Hell I made the Dean's list for crying out loud...and this was not a walk in the park education....talking engineering where half the class is weeded out (350 students) in the first semester of classes. Plus I regard myself as a successful engineer who does a damn good job (at least that is what my boss tells me) and I am far from being the only one in my group enjoying the herb.
Plus my friends said when I started smoking I started to gorw outside of my shell, as I was slightly introverted growing up. To the point that outside of being high I was becoming way more social outside my group of friends. Just speaking to my best friend recently he says he uses me as an example of how marijuana is great and totally stone-walls the contrived myths about the drug. I credit it for helping me socially now I am one of the most outgoing people you can meet.
You are correct. And the medical uses are a definite plus.
And I love corporatewhore quoting a government agency to defend his position. Isn't the government the one keeping it illegal?
in a forum where i get misunderstood more than i'd like; it's refreshing for someone to get the point right away.
and yes; research goes the direction the researcher is looking for.
Did you even read the articles that you posted?
"Studies have shown that marijuana contains many compounds that when burned, produce about 50% higher concentrations of some carcinogenic chemicals than tobacco cigarettes."
-http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/LungCancer/tb/3393
And "transient schizophrenia-like symptoms" while the subject is high is a completely different thing than your previous claim where marijuana actually caused schizophrenia (a psychological condition)! Your information is at best misinterpreted. All of us who have smoked weed have had "schizophrenia like symptoms" or gotten paranoid while we were high, that doesn't mean that we have schizophrenia!
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You are right, and you are wrong. You see CorporateWhore, given moderate doses, the only effects are memory loss and they are short term effects. There have also been studies that show how it helps people with Alzheimers and various other disorders. However, smoking large amounts on a consistent basis CAN fuck up your brain. It's also been proven that smoking large amounts of pot for years can actually lead to schizophrenia.
Another myth, "you will get throat or lung cancer". Also false, its non-carcenogenic. However, long-term havitual use can lead to chronic bronchitis and other throat/lung problems.
It's all about moderation.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
False....I am a living example of it not doing that.
I believe Emery donated a large amounts of his profits....he is just an example of us selling "criminals" to the USA.....I hope they do not extradite the man.....
funny, i have searched through all the asa lists, norml, etc that come into the inbox, and there is no word about this except at jack's blog...i'll be back as soon as ican with more....i would like to discuss practical application of these plants that give more proof about how our gov't is trying to play off generations and use ignorance and hiding important info under the carpet so to speak.....
what about all the other uses, mookie....grandfather, please tell us how......
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
Yes we did....and I am still keen on hopefully trying some in the future.....good to hear from you again!
Cannabis studies include one that suggests that cannabis may be less likely to cause emphysema or cancer than tobacco; other studies have suggested that cannabis may be less likely to cause birth defects or developmental delays in the children of users. According to a United Kingdom government report, using cannabis is less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol in social harms, physical harm and addiction.
Research between the use of cannabis and mental illness has also brought significant results. Cannabis use has generally higher among sufferers of schizophrenia, but the causality between the two has not been established. Another study concluded that sustained early-adolescent cannabis use among genetically predisposed individuals has been associated with a variety of mental illness outcomes; ranging from psychotic episodes to clinical schizophrenia.
I'll take 'Unsubstantiated Blanket Statements' for 400, Alex
Wait until the gate-way drug bit.......that is my personal favorite.....
i'm surprised you didn't touch on the medical benefits. several synthetic and extract pills exist. it's helped people like montel williams and rodney dangerfield among thousands of others. in this modern day; there is no need for someone to suffer because of an illness.
next is the financial aspect. there is $90 billion dollars of american grown pot sold each year. taxed at the standard rate; the income from taxes would pay the national debt; and then some.
the economical reasons are supported by the number of tobacco farmers that will lose their farms due to the decrease in the use of tobacco. this will put thousands in the welfare system. a regulated and taxed growing program would bring new life to the economy and help these depressed areas.
medical research will also gain as more will be known and different variaties bring different benefits. for example; hawiian sativa is a stimulant and you'll work for hours whereas hawiian indica will make you rest and tranquilize you.
it doesn't promote usage; many of us started BECAUSE it was illegal and we were in the rebellion stage. i know many many people but i only know 2 that don't smoke. it would shock you to learn that many of them smoke. from looking at them; you'd never guess.
after waiting in line for over an hour to pick up a Rx; i asked the manager what the problem was. he said insurance requires employees be drug tested and no one can pass the test.
they say pot leads to harder drugs but they don't tell you it's because when someone smokes; they realize that they were lied to about the effects; the next thought is maybe they lied about acid too. my opinion on this point is based on my high school mates and my experience seeing this happen.
sorry to rabbit on but someone had to say it.
ah yes; san pedro. gotta love nature.
Please learn about the drug you are doing before you speak on it. Nonetheless, I think you should be legally allowed to do marijuana.
Effects of Heavy Marijuana Use on Learning and Social Behavior
Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. Depression17, anxiety17, and personality disturbances18 have been associated with chronic marijuana use. Because marijuana compromises the ability to learn and remember information, the more a person uses marijuana the more he or she is likely to fall behind in accumulating intellectual, job, or social skills. Moreover, research has shown that marijuana’s adverse impact on memory and learning can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off19,20,25.
Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers21,22,23,24. A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time.
More recently, the same researchers showed that the ability of a group of long-term heavy marijuana abusers to recall words from a list remained impaired for a week after quitting, but returned to normal within 4 weeks25. Thus, some cognitive abilities may be restored in individuals who quit smoking marijuana, even after long-term heavy use.
Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover. A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use26. In another study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement including cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health27.
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html
-Enoch Powell
Just read it. Or are you so stoned you can't process intellectual information?
Hehe!
"A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least 27 of the 30 days prior to being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory, and learning were significantly impaired, even after the students had not taken the drug for at least 24 hours20. These "heavy" marijuana abusers had more trouble sustaining and shifting their attention and in registering, organizing, and using information than did the study participants who had abused marijuana no more than 3 of the previous 30 days. As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a reduced intellectual level all of the time."
-Enoch Powell
How pot has remained illegal and alcohol legal is beyond me.
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
i got great grades and went on to be a successful business man while fronting a popular band evenings and weekends.
what isn't mentioned is the line between use and abuse. alcohol abuse reprecussions are staggering; yet having a cocktail with dinner has medicinal benefits. twisting one up and watching everybody loves raymond in the evening before bed can clear ones mind and prepare them for the next day.
So what? This is only proof that anything done in excess is harmfull. moderation is the key. Anyway i would like to know what this studies defenition of heavy marijuana users is.
Non-carcenogenic
http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr1/n1_armentano.html
http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/LungCancer/tb/3393
Schizo like reactions in the brain - still inconclusive though I believe
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/blacer040615.htm
the bad idea or me befallen by it?
And I love corporatewhore quoting a government agency to defend his position. Isn't the government the one keeping it illegal?
lobbyists. the black market stands to lose billions in illegal drug trafficing. the drug companies stand to lose millions because of all the medical problems pot is known to help. ie: heart disease; stroke; gluacoma; cancer; ms; and the list keeps growing.
I never said that moderate use was wrong either. I'm just saying, I know a lot of people in my frat who are abusers of marijuana. They do it everyday as often as possible.
It is certainly possible to not abuse marijuana and still use it, I realize.
Then there's also the fact that some people just don't need drugs to enhance their life experience. I'm not one of those people, though.
-Enoch Powell
I also smoked casually and never affected my grades or my profesional life. Most if not all my friends are regular users and had great grades and have great carreers.
Funny because to me that is so far from the truth....became a consistent smoker in university every subsequant year of smoking my grades improved (minimum 5%/year). Hell I made the Dean's list for crying out loud...and this was not a walk in the park education....talking engineering where half the class is weeded out (350 students) in the first semester of classes. Plus I regard myself as a successful engineer who does a damn good job (at least that is what my boss tells me) and I am far from being the only one in my group enjoying the herb.
Plus my friends said when I started smoking I started to gorw outside of my shell, as I was slightly introverted growing up. To the point that outside of being high I was becoming way more social outside my group of friends. Just speaking to my best friend recently he says he uses me as an example of how marijuana is great and totally stone-walls the contrived myths about the drug. I credit it for helping me socially now I am one of the most outgoing people you can meet.
in a forum where i get misunderstood more than i'd like; it's refreshing for someone to get the point right away.
and yes; research goes the direction the researcher is looking for.
"Studies have shown that marijuana contains many compounds that when burned, produce about 50% higher concentrations of some carcinogenic chemicals than tobacco cigarettes."
-http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/LungCancer/tb/3393
And "transient schizophrenia-like symptoms" while the subject is high is a completely different thing than your previous claim where marijuana actually caused schizophrenia (a psychological condition)! Your information is at best misinterpreted. All of us who have smoked weed have had "schizophrenia like symptoms" or gotten paranoid while we were high, that doesn't mean that we have schizophrenia!