MT conseratives: can you vote for any of the (R) candidates and still sleep at night.
stupidcorporatewhore
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let's see:
McCain- more war
Giuliani- more money for the rich, more war for us
Huckabee- hello God! Goodbye Constitution!
Mitt- Where do I start?
Thompson - Hail to the crypt keeper!
Gotta admit, It looks pretty grim.
McCain- more war
Giuliani- more money for the rich, more war for us
Huckabee- hello God! Goodbye Constitution!
Mitt- Where do I start?
Thompson - Hail to the crypt keeper!
Gotta admit, It looks pretty grim.
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RON PAUL
Shame on you for omitting his name.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
I'm always of the philosophy if you want to reach the top, aim 50 feet past the summit. This is essentially Dr Paul's approach. He's not going to actually pass everything he would like to...we al know reality happens after endless campaign promises.
Obama can talk, he's a visible minority, and has some good ideas. This may/will be perceived well by the international community as a step in the right direction. There's really no questioning the international support for Dr Paul though. It's unprecedented.
I think Hillary will be pushed up by Diebold to edge out Obama because she'll be easier to beat than Obama, if the GOP still actually has a chance at winning anything in the end.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Edwards and Obama are at least TALKING about things like boosting the middle class, healthy care and the (saving, not raping) the environment.
something we haven't seen in the past seven years much less from this pack of losers.
you know, I like the "grass roots revolution" thing as much as the next guy
but until we can get the "liberal" media to cover this guy and get someone to include him in a debate it ain't gonna happen.
Edwards has as much chance as Paul. And he may not be into raping the environment but he'll definitely rape business which will negatively impact the middle class. He is nothging but an ambulance chasing shyster lawyer. I have no idea what people see in that tool except his pretty hair.
Obama at least offers something. I'd consider him. The only way I'd vote Hillary is if Huckibilly is the choice on the Republican side.
I'll likely continue to do what I normally do and vote Libertarian unless Huckibilly is really a threat and every vote against matters. Although even then I wouldn't vote for Edwards.
True. Paul doesn't have a shot. But until he drops out, his strong grassroots base will continue to do the work.
I guess it is okay to amend the constitution to get rid of guns, but if it is something a Republican wants, he is a devil.
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
did the last 7 years not happen? Republicans have been getting what they want since sept 12th 2001.
You must be desperate to keep the debate going to pull out that moldy favorite.
How I long for the days when all republicans and democrats argued about was abortion, guns and the death penalty
sounds like this would be name calling even if you did understand the meaning of the term.
is australia, canada, england, france, spain, italy and the rest of the first world socialist?
they all have UNIVERSAL health care and what we used to consider democracy and it seems to work fine for them.
oreillys on.
I know full well what the meaning of the term is, as do you. if the countries you named have socialized healthcare, then that is indeed ONE aspect in which they are socialists. maybe the democratic candidates should move to one of those countries and run for president there. and wtf is "oreillys"?
I've got serious, serious qualms with all of these guys.
I agree with McCain on national defense, but disagree with him on almost everything else.
Ditto Rudy.
Huckabee kind of scares me.
According to that "rate-the-candidates" website someone linked on this forum earlier, my views are most in line with Romney. But I can't really be sure his views are his views, if you know what I mean.
I meant to vote for Fred Thompson in my primary, but accidentally cast my ballot for Sam Waterston (kidding).
Ron Paul is a kook (sorry, Paul-maniacs). If he were a Democrat, his name would be Dennis Kucinich (no offense, Dennis lovers).
So, yeah, I don't know who to vote for, which is a problem most conservatives are going to have. Which means it's going to be a problem for most Republicans come November.
In my view, the only way a Republican candidate wins is if Hillary wins the Democratic nod. Nothing would unite the right like a Hillary-for-president bid. They'd show up in droves to vote for their favorite candidate of all, "Anyone but Hillary."
for the least they could possibly do
why do you detest society collectively providing health care services for itself?
oh, maybe you like insurance companies having more control of your treatment then doctors...
or perhaps you enjoy insurance companies raping this country for every dollar they can get their hands on... PROVIDING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
what exactly about national defense do you agree with?
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I very well could be, but under socialized medical care (or whatever you want to call it), wouldn't the government simply be acting the part of the insurance provider? I'm not under the impression that you get to go to whatever doctor you want, get whatever procedure you want, and then send the bill to your congressman.
Instead of Humana telling me where to go to get treatment, it's some schmuck on Capitol Hill. I don't see the difference -- except under socialized medicine, I'm paying for everyone's medical care through my tax dollars, regardless of whether I use it or not.
Again, I could be wrong. But that's what it sounds like to me.
for the least they could possibly do
I support the idea of social darwinism. you see what you need to survive, and you work for it. if you don't, then you don't survive. if there is a service that is limited -which quality healthcare is- then you work for it, or you don't get it. is that hard to understand?
see thread about to be made... lets ask the folks on this borad from countries that have universal health care...
I agree with McCain's stance that we should have a strong, well-funded and proactive military. I agree with his stance that Iraq, in principle, was the right thing to do, but that the "securing the peace" portion was horribly botched, leaving us in the precarious position we are in today.
I agree with his stance that we can't leave Iraq a complete and utter mess.
I cannot, in good conscience, vote for any candidate that promises to withdraw troops immediately, regardless of the circumstance on the ground.
Either, A) They really mean it, and that's a stupid thing to promise without knowing what the circumstances are going to be when he/she takes office or,
If McCain weren't so wishy washy on nearly every other issue, and if he weren't 71 and maybe a little senile, I might consider voting for him.
for the least they could possibly do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI
no help for your fellow man in need?
thats a shame... have fun in life... i hope you never need a neighbors helping hand
peace out
no, all my neighbors work their way through life just like I do. I'm always glad to help a "neighbor", but I don't have 300 million "neighbors". there are "neighbors" and then there are "dead beats". I believe in first helping those who help themselves, and those who would help me when I need help. I DON'T believe in helping those who bring nothing to the table. that's the difference. but hey, it doesn't "take a village" to raise my child either, I do that myself.
thanks, I do try to have fun in life. have fun on your commune.
we are the only first world country without state supported, public, universal, or if you perfer the more misleading slanderous term "socialized" medicine. That is a crime by anyone's standards and by not demanding it you allign yourself with a lot of bad people against 47 million uninsured Americans. Our public school system runs on this model as well would you like us to scrap it as well?
your choice, clearly you are voting Republican (or possibly for Hillary, "health care" companies financed her senate campain).
oh, and when I said "oreillys on" I should have said "O'reilly is on".
that'd be what I assume is your favorie fox "news" show, the O'reilly Factor
I agree with you, to a point. But on the other hand, why should I be forced to pay for someone else's insurance? I paid to go to college, I work my ass off to pay for my own health care. Why can't other people do the same?
I don't mind giving to a charity. But I tend to bristle when my charity is forced, metaphorically speaking, at gun point.
And I also wonder if government-run medical care will be substandard. In my experience, everything the government touches turns substandard.
So now, I'm paying for health care that is worse than what I had before. That sounds like no fun, too.
But I would be interested to hear how it works in other countries, and if it works.
for the least they could possibly do
If someone else's house is burning down, you pay to put their fire out. And they pay to put yours out.
when a crime is commited, you pay to send a cop to help someone. And they pay to send a cop to you.
You pay to educate someone elses child. and they pay for your childs education
water, power, insurance, the list goes on and on. that's a society, man.
why couldn't it work with health care AS IT DOES IN EVERY SINGLE FUCKING FIRST WORLD COUNTRY IN THE FUCKING WORLD!!!!!?????
Now, granted this is the united states so there is the 99.9999% chance that we will fuck it all up. But does that mean we shouldn't try?
Finally, I think they tax the shit out of people in those countries and I think the gas prices are like 5 times what they are here. But if you think about it if there is a strong economy, you are paid as fair wage, and you don't have to worry about getting sick, do you really have much else on your mind?
I suppose that model doesn't really work for a selfish society.
until we change it'll never happen.
It might. I don't know. I don't think I'm on board yet. It sounds like I pay for enough shit already
for the least they could possibly do
I'm with you on that. Thank you by the way for at least leaving a crack in the door for the possibility.
I'd do anything to have a President who lied to congress, robbed the treasury and wasted it on health care instead of a war.
i am no hippie...
and i do not live in a commune... i work 40 hours a week...
health care should not be based on income or someones financial standing, regardless of the reason for their situation
it's ok though... your way of thinking is giving way to progress
mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine... its all mine
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you know whats funny... the same folks that dont want to provide universal health care have no problem collectively providing $1 trillion dollars a year to our war machine, aka national defense... the military is run by the government, and you always beat your chest claiming to have the worlds finest military? so if the federal government can provide the worlds "greatest military" then why dont you have confidence that it could help provide (aka pay for it) the worlds finest health care
wake up folks... start providing food and medicine instead of bombs and war planes