do you honestly think that the world will be better in the future?

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  • I disagree, except in the case of the environment. That is getting worse, but the awareness and precautions people take now are much greater than they've ever been.

    But anyways, I disagree because of history. If you look back through human history, you see constant improvement...it's slow, but it's improving. 100 years ago, there was no such thing as civil rights laws, women's rights, environmental concerns...nothing. And go back 100 years before that, black people were enslaved. Etc. etc. I'm speaking from an American perspective obviously, but the same is true for much of the world as well.

    So I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think people are getting smarter and are more aware of our mutual problems. It's a slow process, but it's happening.
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  • brainofPJ
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    Saturnal wrote:
    I disagree, except in the case of the environment. That is getting worse, but the awareness and precautions people take now are much greater than they've ever been.

    But anyways, I disagree because of history. If you look back through human history, you see constant improvement...it's slow, but it's improving. 100 years ago, there was no such thing as civil rights laws, women's rights, environmental concerns...nothing. And go back 100 years before that, black people were enslaved. Etc. etc. I'm speaking from an American perspective obviously, but the same is true for much of the world as well.

    So I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think people are getting smarter and are more aware of our mutual problems. It's a slow process, but it's happening.


    things have only gotten worse in this century, starting in 1914. violence, disease, starvation, if you want to throw in the natural disaster some of which man has no doubt contributed towards. these things have always been taking place. the difference is, in this century it has been on a world-wide scale, unprecedented


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  • brainofPJ wrote:
    things have only gotten worse in this century, starting in 1914. violence, disease, starvation, if you want to throw in the natural disaster some of which man has no doubt contributed towards. these things have always been taking place. the difference is, in this century it has been on a world-wide scale, unprecedented

    I still don't see that. If you asked a woman or a black person or a factory worker working 12 hours a day or a Ludlow miner whether they'd rather live in today's world, or prior to 1914, I think every one of them would choose to live in today's world. Today's world is no picnic, but it's comparably better than it was in 1914. Violence, disease, and starvation have always been happening on a worldwide scale.
  • decides2dream
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    i honestly don't know...but i certainly think it's possible. we as humans, and all species..continue to evolve...also, with time comes advancements, etc. so personally, i guess i still believe it's probably we wil continue this cycle...and get 'better' with time.

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  • brainofPJ wrote:
    things have only gotten worse in this century, starting in 1914. violence, disease, starvation, if you want to throw in the natural disaster some of which man has no doubt contributed towards. these things have always been taking place. the difference is, in this century it has been on a world-wide scale, unprecedented
    Unless, of course, you believe in that one story of the ark and the flood....:rolleyes:
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  • brainofPJ
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    Saturnal wrote:
    I still don't see that. If you asked a woman or a black person or a factory worker working 12 hours a day or a Ludlow miner whether they'd rather live in today's world, or prior to 1914, I think every one of them would choose to live in today's world. Today's world is no picnic, but it's comparably better than it was in 1914. Violence, disease, and starvation have always been happening on a worldwide scale.


    uhh, yeah...if you asked anyone in this country (except poor, homeless etc.) i believe they would choose the present. but that's due to more than just the things you pointed out...technology, which makes everybodys live easier (except when it's used to kill) would be one huge reason. i guess some people just don't see the extent that these things are happening, or they choose to ignore them until they are personally touched or affected.


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  • surferdude
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    yotan18 wrote:
    the world isn't going to be any better.

    whether it be 10-100 years from now...

    i don't think so.

    some people fight to make this world a better place, and i SALUTE them for that, but honestly, this world is going down.

    do you agree or disagree???
    The world will be a better place. I believe it is a better place now than 100 years ago. And will again be a better place 100 years from now.
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  • yotan18
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    Pickr wrote:
    Yea...that makes sense...seems the only reason you guys can continue this fight for freedom is because you have allies...You can barely handle Iraq yet think taking the world would be no problem.

    Hope you were joking.

    yup, i agree. ^^^ hope no one invades our country, because i think we don't have a shot.
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  • yotan18
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    Saturnal wrote:
    I disagree, except in the case of the environment. That is getting worse, but the awareness and precautions people take now are much greater than they've ever been.

    But anyways, I disagree because of history. If you look back through human history, you see constant improvement...it's slow, but it's improving. 100 years ago, there was no such thing as civil rights laws, women's rights, environmental concerns...nothing. And go back 100 years before that, black people were enslaved. Etc. etc. I'm speaking from an American perspective obviously, but the same is true for much of the world as well.

    So I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think people are getting smarter and are more aware of our mutual problems. It's a slow process, but it's happening.

    and now, people can have same-sex marriage. now, we can legalize abortion. now, students can broadcast porn in their universities.

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  • sourdough
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    I wish I could say things will get better, but I don't think they will. More specifically, I think we'll see about another decade where life will continue to improve, before things get worse. Don't mean to be a drag, but I can't help but to think the world is sick and there aren't enough people trying to fix it.
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  • Gotta live like it could be and be prepared just in case it gets worse. There's always room for hope because nothing feels like it's set in stone to me, I don't care how many years we have been fighting and killing. We are overdue to evolve a bit more.
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  • surferdude
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    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Life After the Oil Crash

    "Deal With Reality or Reality Will Deal With You"

    Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky proclamation of a doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society. Rather, it is the scientific conclusion of the best paid, most widely-respected geologists, physicists, and investment bankers in the world. These are rational, professional, conservative individuals who are absolutely terrified by a phenomenon known as global "Peak Oil."
    These are people who haven't looked at humans' great ability to adapt and succeed. They politicize science in an attemt to make their point.
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  • PaperPlates
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    I hope he was joking too because it's very far from the truth. America is an enemy to the world with only a few allies that matter.

    The only way America could conquer the world (besides nuking every continent but North America) would be if the greedy motherfuckers helped all of us lower class get rich off of war. The only people behind this war are the ones profitting somehow. If we all profit, we'd all be behind it. I mean, personally, I wouldn't, but the majority certainly would. We're a greedy people and can live with justifying just about anything to get gain.


    actually, if we just cut ALL outside humanitarian aid, and all exporting of goods, and all trade, we'd have to adjust, but a few years later, we could "take our pick" of countries to occupy. Too bad we're not true imperialists. ;)
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  • Pickr
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    actually, if we just cut ALL outside humanitarian aid, and all exporting of goods, and all trade, we'd have to adjust, but a few years later, we could "take our pick" of countries to occupy. Too bad we're not true imperialists. ;)

    Other countries would give aid...other countries can trade...
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  • WMA
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    With the exponential growth in population along with increasing life expectancy, I'm sure things are bound to get worse. Maybe abortion and gay marriage isn't the worst thing that can happen when you consider how fast the world population is growing.

    I wonder if eventually there will be a permit required to have a kid, or a limit of 1 per family or something. There will just be too many people.
  • sourdough
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    surferdude wrote:
    The world will be a better place. I believe it is a better place now than 100 years ago. And will again be a better place 100 years from now.

    I think it depends on who you ask. If you ask the average north American or European, than yes, the world is a better place now. I'm not so sure that is true for First Nations people in North America or Australia nor for Africa.
  • sourdough wrote:
    I think it depends on who you ask. If you ask the average north American or European, than yes, the world is a better place now. I'm not so sure that is true for First Nations people in North America or Australia nor for Africa.

    You think Aborigines and Native Americans had it better 100 years ago?
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