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do you honestly think that the world will be better in the future?

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    yotan18yotan18 Posts: 103
    Saturnal wrote:
    I disagree, except in the case of the environment. That is getting worse, but the awareness and precautions people take now are much greater than they've ever been.

    But anyways, I disagree because of history. If you look back through human history, you see constant improvement...it's slow, but it's improving. 100 years ago, there was no such thing as civil rights laws, women's rights, environmental concerns...nothing. And go back 100 years before that, black people were enslaved. Etc. etc. I'm speaking from an American perspective obviously, but the same is true for much of the world as well.

    So I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think people are getting smarter and are more aware of our mutual problems. It's a slow process, but it's happening.

    and now, people can have same-sex marriage. now, we can legalize abortion. now, students can broadcast porn in their universities.

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    sourdoughsourdough Posts: 579
    I wish I could say things will get better, but I don't think they will. More specifically, I think we'll see about another decade where life will continue to improve, before things get worse. Don't mean to be a drag, but I can't help but to think the world is sick and there aren't enough people trying to fix it.
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    kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,323
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    Gotta live like it could be and be prepared just in case it gets worse. There's always room for hope because nothing feels like it's set in stone to me, I don't care how many years we have been fighting and killing. We are overdue to evolve a bit more.
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    surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Life After the Oil Crash

    "Deal With Reality or Reality Will Deal With You"

    Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky proclamation of a doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society. Rather, it is the scientific conclusion of the best paid, most widely-respected geologists, physicists, and investment bankers in the world. These are rational, professional, conservative individuals who are absolutely terrified by a phenomenon known as global "Peak Oil."
    These are people who haven't looked at humans' great ability to adapt and succeed. They politicize science in an attemt to make their point.
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    PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    I hope he was joking too because it's very far from the truth. America is an enemy to the world with only a few allies that matter.

    The only way America could conquer the world (besides nuking every continent but North America) would be if the greedy motherfuckers helped all of us lower class get rich off of war. The only people behind this war are the ones profitting somehow. If we all profit, we'd all be behind it. I mean, personally, I wouldn't, but the majority certainly would. We're a greedy people and can live with justifying just about anything to get gain.


    actually, if we just cut ALL outside humanitarian aid, and all exporting of goods, and all trade, we'd have to adjust, but a few years later, we could "take our pick" of countries to occupy. Too bad we're not true imperialists. ;)
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    PickrPickr Posts: 161
    actually, if we just cut ALL outside humanitarian aid, and all exporting of goods, and all trade, we'd have to adjust, but a few years later, we could "take our pick" of countries to occupy. Too bad we're not true imperialists. ;)

    Other countries would give aid...other countries can trade...
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    WMAWMA Posts: 175
    With the exponential growth in population along with increasing life expectancy, I'm sure things are bound to get worse. Maybe abortion and gay marriage isn't the worst thing that can happen when you consider how fast the world population is growing.

    I wonder if eventually there will be a permit required to have a kid, or a limit of 1 per family or something. There will just be too many people.
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    sourdoughsourdough Posts: 579
    surferdude wrote:
    The world will be a better place. I believe it is a better place now than 100 years ago. And will again be a better place 100 years from now.

    I think it depends on who you ask. If you ask the average north American or European, than yes, the world is a better place now. I'm not so sure that is true for First Nations people in North America or Australia nor for Africa.
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    sourdough wrote:
    I think it depends on who you ask. If you ask the average north American or European, than yes, the world is a better place now. I'm not so sure that is true for First Nations people in North America or Australia nor for Africa.

    You think Aborigines and Native Americans had it better 100 years ago?
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    denverfandenverfan Posts: 218
    yotan18 wrote:
    the world isn't going to be any better.

    whether it be 10-100 years from now...

    i don't think so.

    some people fight to make this world a better place, and i SALUTE them for that, but honestly, this world is going down.

    do you agree or disagree???

    I agree with most of the sentiment resting within the replies...I fear a grim future, I think we'll have to hit some type of a "rock bottom" before things get better. My worries...what if that rock bottom is place where we can't return from?
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    sourdoughsourdough Posts: 579
    You think Aborigines and Native Americans had it better 100 years ago?

    OK maybe that was too broad of a generalization. Some did yes, others, not so much. I live in BC and Vancouver was barely a town 100 years ago and so much of the First Nations here were hardly in contact with Europeans yet. But you're right, for the most part they were not better off 100 years ago. However, if you go back before colonization then life was probably better.
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    LazLaz Posts: 118
    I tell you what, it'll get a lot worse before it gets any better...
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    yotan18 wrote:
    the world isn't going to be any better.

    whether it be 10-100 years from now...

    i don't think so.

    some people fight to make this world a better place, and i SALUTE them for that, but honestly, this world is going down.

    do you agree or disagree???

    Anybody who takes a facts-based approach to this question will tell you that the world IS improving and has been for many years. Life-expectancy, infant-death rate, kuznet's curve (equality of wealth), poverty, and most other indicators of "a better world" have been improving for years and almost unquestionably will continue to do so, at least in the short term (5-20 years).

    The better question goes as follows: are we better off in a world where we are all simply appendices to production and consumption, war is the basis for our economical strength, ignorance equals strength, propaganda influences peoples' decisions and ideas, and ultimately, is the "facts-based approach" as described above using the right "facts"??? Who develops those "facts" using whom's data?

    Personally, I'd rather be living on an indigenous island, feeding myself and my family, and not worrying about who will take away my freedom. With one catch... I would need Pearl Jam.
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