do you honestly think that the world will be better in the future?

yotan18

the world isn't going to be any better.

whether it be 10-100 years from now...

i don't think so.

some people fight to make this world a better place, and i SALUTE them for that, but honestly, this world is going down.

do you agree or disagree???

sponger

As long as PJ keeps making new albums and going on tours, the world is destined to be a better place.

brain of c

yes.

yotan18

sponger wrote:

As long as PJ keeps making new albums and going on tours, the world is destined to be a better place.

you caught me there!

Coming back to life

The world will always have problems. As long as the entire world isn't turned into some fucking Sharia state, things could be worse.

Abuskedti

at the rate we are going, no. it seems it will have to get pretty bad before people are willing to make an effort.

enharmonic

I think that once human beings are wiped off the face of the Earth, this planet has a shot.

Coming back to life

enharmonic wrote:

I think that once human beings are wiped off the face of the Earth, this planet has a shot.

Agreed. Duty to have kids? Bullshit.

JaneNY

I want it to be but I'm afraid that it won't.

monkey spanker

good question. but kind of vague, as everyone has different meanings of better. some may look at technological advances as better, some may see them as being worse.

are we better off now, than 100 years ago?

Coming back to life

monkey spanker wrote:

good question. but kind of vague, as everyone has different meanings of better. some may look at technological advances as better, some may see them as being worse.

are we better off now, than 100 years ago?

Depends. White, rich, upper/middle class, religious straight people are no better off.

Eliot Rosewater

yotan18 wrote:

the world isn't going to be any better.

whether it be 10-100 years from now...

i don't think so.

some people fight to make this world a better place, and i SALUTE them for that, but honestly, this world is going down.

do you agree or disagree???

...This is how I feel. I think the world is pretty much how it's always been. It's always been riddled with wars and someone trying to conquer and rule the world....it just happens to be the U.S. who's attempting that right now. I'm sure they'll get close before being taken down then someone else can have their turn.

Actually, the only difference I see between now and any other time in recorded history is the state of the planet. It's really fucking scary. I'm sure it will be turned around, but likely not until a few major disasters.

monkey spanker

don't gimme no wrote:

It's always been riddled with wars and someone trying to conquer and rule the world....it just happens to be the U.S. who's attempting that right now.

LOL, if we wanted to conquer the world it would already be done.

Pickr

monkey spanker wrote:

LOL, if we wanted to conquer the world it would already be done.

Yea...that makes sense...seems the only reason you guys can continue this fight for freedom is because you have allies...You can barely handle Iraq yet think taking the world would be no problem.

Hope you were joking.

Eliot Rosewater

Pickr wrote:

Yea...that makes sense...seems the only reason you guys can continue this fight for freedom is because you have allies...You can barely handle Iraq yet think taking the world would be no problem.

Hope you were joking.

I hope he was joking too because it's very far from the truth. America is an enemy to the world with only a few allies that matter.

The only way America could conquer the world (besides nuking every continent but North America) would be if the greedy motherfuckers helped all of us lower class get rich off of war. The only people behind this war are the ones profitting somehow. If we all profit, we'd all be behind it. I mean, personally, I wouldn't, but the majority certainly would. We're a greedy people and can live with justifying just about anything to get gain.

monkey spanker

"You can barely handle Iraq"

cause we're pussy footing around.

we'll send chuck norris into B.C and have you singing the star spangled banner before dinnertime if you keep up that talk.

EvilToasterElf

The atrocities of today just seem to be reported better (and that's quantity not quality) than those of yesterday. Otherwise I think we've been on the straight and narrow since the renaissance.

Pickr

What is your plan for Iraq? Nuke it? Kill every man in sight? The moron in charge could really use some help.

Eliot Rosewater

monkey spanker wrote:

"You can barely handle Iraq"

cause we're pussy footing around.

we'll send chuck norris into B.C and have you singing the star spangled banner before dinnertime if you keep up that talk.

lmao....I saw Chuck on Yes, Dear the other day. It was very funny. Maybe we are pussy footing around, but even if we weren't Iraq wouldn't be a simple task. Conquering the world would definitely require a draft and I for one would follow Chuch to B.C.

Eliot Rosewater

Pickr wrote:

What is your plan for Iraq? Nuke it? Kill every man in sight? The moron in charge could really use some help.

The 'decider' certainly needs help but the arrogant prick won't ever admit it and would never listen to anyone but dickless cheney.

Pickr

don't gimme no wrote:

The 'decider' certainly needs help but the arrogant prick won't ever admit it and would never listen to anyone but dickless cheney.

Or daddy.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

I disagree, except in the case of the environment. That is getting worse, but the awareness and precautions people take now are much greater than they've ever been.

But anyways, I disagree because of history. If you look back through human history, you see constant improvement...it's slow, but it's improving. 100 years ago, there was no such thing as civil rights laws, women's rights, environmental concerns...nothing. And go back 100 years before that, black people were enslaved. Etc. etc. I'm speaking from an American perspective obviously, but the same is true for much of the world as well.

So I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think people are getting smarter and are more aware of our mutual problems. It's a slow process, but it's happening.

angelica

progress, not perfection.

brainofPJ

Saturnal wrote:

I disagree, except in the case of the environment. That is getting worse, but the awareness and precautions people take now are much greater than they've ever been.

But anyways, I disagree because of history. If you look back through human history, you see constant improvement...it's slow, but it's improving. 100 years ago, there was no such thing as civil rights laws, women's rights, environmental concerns...nothing. And go back 100 years before that, black people were enslaved. Etc. etc. I'm speaking from an American perspective obviously, but the same is true for much of the world as well.

So I'm pretty optimistic about the future. I think people are getting smarter and are more aware of our mutual problems. It's a slow process, but it's happening.

things have only gotten worse in this century, starting in 1914. violence, disease, starvation, if you want to throw in the natural disaster some of which man has no doubt contributed towards. these things have always been taking place. the difference is, in this century it has been on a world-wide scale, unprecedented

lalalalaaaaaaaa

brainofPJ wrote:

things have only gotten worse in this century, starting in 1914. violence, disease, starvation, if you want to throw in the natural disaster some of which man has no doubt contributed towards. these things have always been taking place. the difference is, in this century it has been on a world-wide scale, unprecedented

I still don't see that. If you asked a woman or a black person or a factory worker working 12 hours a day or a Ludlow miner whether they'd rather live in today's world, or prior to 1914, I think every one of them would choose to live in today's world. Today's world is no picnic, but it's comparably better than it was in 1914. Violence, disease, and starvation have always been happening on a worldwide scale.

decides2dream

i honestly don't know...but i certainly think it's possible. we as humans, and all species..continue to evolve...also, with time comes advancements, etc. so personally, i guess i still believe it's probably we wil continue this cycle...and get 'better' with time.

angelica wrote:

progress, not perfection.

exactly.

Eliot Rosewater

brainofPJ wrote:

things have only gotten worse in this century, starting in 1914. violence, disease, starvation, if you want to throw in the natural disaster some of which man has no doubt contributed towards. these things have always been taking place. the difference is, in this century it has been on a world-wide scale, unprecedented

Unless, of course, you believe in that one story of the ark and the flood....:rolleyes:

Pearl Jam and toast

have you seen mad max?

brainofPJ

Saturnal wrote:

I still don't see that. If you asked a woman or a black person or a factory worker working 12 hours a day or a Ludlow miner whether they'd rather live in today's world, or prior to 1914, I think every one of them would choose to live in today's world. Today's world is no picnic, but it's comparably better than it was in 1914. Violence, disease, and starvation have always been happening on a worldwide scale.

uhh, yeah...if you asked anyone in this country (except poor, homeless etc.) i believe they would choose the present. but that's due to more than just the things you pointed out...technology, which makes everybodys live easier (except when it's used to kill) would be one huge reason. i guess some people just don't see the extent that these things are happening, or they choose to ignore them until they are personally touched or affected.

surferdude

yotan18 wrote:

the world isn't going to be any better.

whether it be 10-100 years from now...

i don't think so.

some people fight to make this world a better place, and i SALUTE them for that, but honestly, this world is going down.

do you agree or disagree???

The world will be a better place. I believe it is a better place now than 100 years ago. And will again be a better place 100 years from now.

yotan18

Pickr wrote:

Yea...that makes sense...seems the only reason you guys can continue this fight for freedom is because you have allies...You can barely handle Iraq yet think taking the world would be no problem.

Hope you were joking.

yup, i agree. ^^^ hope no one invades our country, because i think we don't have a shot.