Is this what Christians really think?

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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    doesn't the qur'an predate jesus and the bible? so wouldn't ya think many of the islamic were muslim long before christianity even existed? how can you 'turn one away' from jesus, if you believed in something entirely else in the first place? bizarre. so yea, i give the vast majority of christians far more credit than that, so i highly doubt many believe that, at all.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    It's actually Judaism that doesn't believe Christ was the Messiah. It was Judaism that crucified Christ.
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    decides2dream wrote:
    doesn't the qur'an predate jesus and the bible? so wouldn't ya think many of the islamic were muslim long before christianity even existed? how can you 'turn one away' from jesus, if you believed in something entirely else in the first place? bizarre. so yea, i give the vast majority of christians far more credit than that, so i highly doubt many believe that, at all.

    Oh nice one. Cut down the tree at the roots but expect it to still be there and grow. I like that. I even knew that, but somehow needed to see it in front of me to actually realize it. Whoa, how odd is that? I dare say there are lots more like me.

    Perhaps I am programmed by too many terror alerts and bombings in the news...

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    danmac wrote:

    Originally Posted by BackCircleSpin
    Islam being an insturment of Satan is a somewhat correct statement.



    How so, young sir? Upon what do you base that statement?

    Oh and welcome to the Moving Train...

    It's common sense actually. Christianity is based around Christ, and the teachings of the Bible. The Bible teaches that belief in Jesus is the only way into Heaven. Therefore, since Islam only claims Jesus is a prophet, and not God, then yes, Satan would use Islam to make people doubt Jesus.

    This is a very simple concept that it seems many of you in this thread don't understand.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It's actually Judaism that doesn't believe Christ was the Messiah. It was Judaism that crucified Christ.

    Yep, Judaism and Islam are both wrong.
  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    I think all of you should worry a little less about books that were written 2000 years ago. People are killing each other over this shit. Fucking text books in US schools are worthless after 10 years...I'm pretty sure the Bible, Koran (Q'uran, Qu'ran, whatever), and Dyanetics are just a little obsolete too.

    Bottom line is this: If you are looking for a belief/religion/sect to find happiness in this word, fine. But if one of those things asks/dictates you hurt another for your own well being...well then you need to fuck off. You do not hurt another to make yourself feel better.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    IWillLiveForeve wrote:
    I think all of you should worry a little less about books that were written 2000 years ago. People are killing each other over this shit. Fucking text books in US schools are worthless after 10 years...I'm pretty sure the Bible, Koran (Q'uran, Qu'ran, whatever), and Dyanetics are just a little obsolete too.

    Bottom line is this: If you are looking for a belief/religion/sect to find happiness in this word, fine. But if one of those things asks/dictates you hurt another for your own well being...well then you need to fuck off. You do not hurt another to make yourself feel better.

    The Bible never says to hurt another human being. How is the Bible obsolete? What about it makes it obsolete? The fact that you don't believe it? Was Jesus all of a sudden not crucified? Isn't that a fact? Now, did Moses not part the Red Sea all of a sudden? If you say no, then prove it to me. If you can't prove it, then you can't say the Bible is obsolete. You can believe it is. But you can't know it is.
  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Now, did Moses not part the Red Sea all of a sudden? If you say no, then prove it to me. If you can't prove it, then you can't say the Bible is obsolete. You can believe it is. But you can't know it is.

    How did Moses part the Red Sea?
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  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Yep, Judaism and Islam are both wrong.

    In what respect? Doesn't Judaism predate Christianity by a thousand years?

    And arent they more followers of Islam in the world than Christians? ANd I mean practising, day in day out?

    If so, what of the Chinese? A billion and a half people who follow no religion, are they wrong?

    Hinduism? Or the Sikhs? Are they all wrong? If so, in what way, exactly?
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  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    It's common sense actually. Christianity is based around Christ, and the teachings of the Bible. The Bible teaches that belief in Jesus is the only way into Heaven. Therefore, since Islam only claims Jesus is a prophet, and not God, then yes, Satan would use Islam to make people doubt Jesus.

    This is a very simple concept that it seems many of you in this thread don't understand.


    Yes, I agree, i think we are to simple to accpet this simple view of a simple world.

    Tell me again, who, or what, is Satan?
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  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    decides2dream wrote:
    doesn't the qur'an predate jesus and the bible? so wouldn't ya think many of the islamic were muslim long before christianity even existed? how can you 'turn one away' from jesus, if you believed in something entirely else in the first place? bizarre. so yea, i give the vast majority of christians far more credit than that, so i highly doubt many believe that, at all.


    The Qu'ran dates from 650 656 ad, 1400 years ago, after the prophet Muhammad broke away and founded Islam.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    danmac wrote:
    Yes, I agree, i think we are to simple to accpet this simple view of a simple world.

    Tell me again, who, or what, is Satan?

    See, there really is no point here. If you don't believe in Christianity, then I could see how you don't believe in the devil. I'm just saying, if you believe in Christianity, then anything that goes against Christianity, would be of the devil. Obviously, you aren't a Christian, and don't believe Satan exists. So, there's our difference.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    danmac wrote:
    How did Moses part the Red Sea?

    With God's help.
  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    With God's help.


    Could you elaborate? Just interested in the science of the operation, that's all.
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  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    See, there really is no point here. If you don't believe in Christianity, then I could see how you don't believe in the devil. I'm just saying, if you believe in Christianity, then anything that goes against Christianity, would be of the devil. Obviously, you aren't a Christian, and don't believe Satan exists. So, there's our difference.

    There's always a point. Never give up. You're nearly there.

    Show me where i can find this thing you call the devil, where I can see it, where I can touch it, maybe talk to it, and then i can perhaps understand the world in which you live.

    The one where human beings have no free will, are nothing but pawns for made up cartoon characters.

    What makes your god superior to that of the majority of the worlds population who believe in a different god, or none at all?

    am i destined for the fires of hell because I believe in free will, and humanity, and not these idols you hold up?
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    danmac wrote:
    Could you elaborate? Just interested in the science of the operation, that's all.

    Simple, if God exists, which I do believe, then He parted the Red Sea. So, just like I can't prove it scientifically, you can't prove God doesn't exist. So, we're stuck I guess.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    danmac wrote:
    There's always a point. Never give up. You're nearly there.

    Show me where i can find this thing you call the devil, where I can see it, where I can touch it, maybe talk to it, and then i can perhaps understand the world in which you live.

    The one where human beings have no free will, are nothing but pawns for made up cartoon characters.

    What makes your god superior to that of the majority of the worlds population who believe in a different god, or none at all?

    am i destined for the fires of hell because I believe in free will, and humanity, and not these idols you hold up?

    This is ridiculous. Either you do, or don't believe in Christianity. I believe it is superior because that is what the Bible says. I believe Satan exists because it says so in the Bible, and I see a lot evil in this world. So, obviously you aren't a Christian. I am. Have a great day.
  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Simple, if God exists, which I do believe, then He parted the Red Sea. So, just like I can't prove it scientifically, you can't prove God doesn't exist. So, we're stuck I guess.


    Err, no. That's not how this works.

    IF you were arrested for a crime, is the onus upon those who arrested you to prove the crime, or you to prove that you did nothing?

    God does not exist. There. So go ahead, and refute that with evidence to the contrary. It's really easy. If you believe so deeply.
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  • danmac
    danmac Posts: 387
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    This is ridiculous. Either you do, or don't believe in Christianity. I believe it is superior because that is what the Bible says. I believe Satan exists because it says so in the Bible, and I see a lot evil in this world. So, obviously you aren't a Christian. I am. Have a great day.


    Which part of 'The Bible'?
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    i dont mean to call him out, but i do have a question for our original KC poster... is his fiance a very devout evangelical? cos ive noticed that he used to be pretty even-keeled. ever since he got engaged his evangelical zeal seems to have increased tenfold and he's much more vocal about it. ive just noticed this a lot, people who are lukewarm, or even devout, about their religion suddenly become missionaries once they meet a gal who considers religion to be very important ;)

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