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Who here doesnt think the US government is insanely out of control?

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    jlew24asu wrote:
    with the amount of hate for the evil empire, you cant help but think some people, including you, feel america got what it deserved on 9/11.

    and love for the Iranian president? are you kidding. just look at rolands thread today. Iran or the prez can do no wrong. and when he is shown the evil that goes on, his response is....its ok, they will evolve.


    You sure like to fill in your own blanks on what people think. My post was to clarify yet another misinterpretation of what was said. You do realize the US govt is steering it's citizens into yet another war don't you?

    I also clarified the "wipe israel off the map nonsense" which you fought tooth and nail to hold on to.

    You think I'm off base for attempting to clarify matters considering yet another a war is about to start?

    That would be interesting.
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    spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    with the amount of hate for the evil empire, you cant help but think some people, including you, feel america got what it deserved on 9/11.

    and love for the Iranian president? are you kidding. just look at rolands thread today. Iran or the prez can do no wrong. and when he is shown the evil that goes on, his response is....its ok, they will evolve.

    I really don't get your mentality at all, Americas foreign policy stinks and has since the end of world war II, quite frankly a person would have to be braindead to not relise that. But that does not equate to wanting to see innocent people die.

    This is what annoys me about you, you will defent America first and formost if someone points out something wrong with it's actions before condeming the actions which you know full well are wrong.

    Your a true patriot. Exactly what they want you to be.
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    jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    I really don't get your mentality at all, Americas foreign policy stinks and has since the end of world war II, quite frankly a person would have to be braindead to not relise that. But that does not equate to wanting to see innocent people die.

    This is what annoys me about you, you will defent America first and formost if someone points out something wrong with it's actions before condeming the actions which you know full well are wrong.

    Your a true patriot. Exactly what they want you to be.

    this is where you are wrong. I hate our current foreign policy. you have never seen me defend military action against Iraq (the invasion). and I have always been against any military action in Iran.

    I'm just not as quick as you to send out blanket statements that America is evil. you do it daily. actually you dont. you step in cheerlead when many others do it.
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    spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is where you are wrong. I hate our current foreign policy. you have never seen me defend military action against Iraq (the invasion). and I have always been against any military action in Iran.

    I'm just not as quick as you to send out blanket statements that America is evil. you do it daily. actually you dont. you step in cheerlead when many others do it.

    It's not about blanket statments that america is evil? It's about people needing to wake the fuck up and see what is happening in the world at the moment and yes the american goverment is at the centre of most of it. At the end of the day is my country not in Iraq too? and will my stupid goverment not follow your stupid goverment furthur into this bullshit? We are in involved in this stupid shit as much as you are.

    But instead of seeing that you jump to the defence of your country. There's no need man, just see whats really going on it's not pretty whatever we are sleep walking into.
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    fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,736
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I just don't get the whole Canadians vs Us thing.

    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada/

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    #75 Threatening to Move to Canada
    February 24, 2008 by clander

    Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.

    For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Canada.”

    Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.

    Within white culture, it is agreed upon that if Canada had better weather it would be a perfect place.

    Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of white people. Whenever they say, “I’m moving to Canada,” you must immediately respond with “I have relatives in Canada.”

    They will then expect you to tell them about how Canada has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.

    But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Canadian tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.
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    flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Is this the official dig up old my2hands threads day?
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    Is this the official dig up old my2hands threads day?


    Yes, I thought I must have been confusing him with someone else.

    No need to worry, I'm sure these will drop away in no time. :)
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    ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mammasan wrote:
    I would go back a little further to say 1823 with the writting of the Monroe Doctrine. That was the initial pebble in the lake. The Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine was also a defining moment in the progession of our government becoming our enemy.

    I'd say that the dropping of the atmo bombs on Japan symbolised the moment when the U.S government sold the country down the crapper/sold it's soul to the devil - or however else you wanna phrase it. I think it was a defining moment.
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    ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    with the amount of hate for the evil empire, you cant help but think some people, including you, feel america got what it deserved on 9/11.

    Not that I condone the murder of anyone but can you please explain what you think America did derserve after 50 years of supporting Israeli terror, decimating Iraq in 1991, propping up numerous puppet regimes throughout the Middle East, bombing a major Sudanese Medical factory, and sitting back and allowing tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims to be slaughtered in Yugloslavia, e.t.c?

    This may be considered controversial and offensive to many Americans on this messageboard, but here is an age old saying which goes: 'You reap what you sow'.

    But then many Americans are of the opinion that 9/11 occured out of an historical vacuum.
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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Not that I condone the murder of anyone but can you please explain what you think America did derserve after 50 years of supporting Israeli terror, decimating Iraq in 1991, propping up numerous puppet regimes throughout the Middle East, bombing a major Sudanese Medical factory, and sitting back and allowing tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims to be slaughtered in Yugloslavia, e.t.c?

    This may be considered controversial and offensive to many Americans on this messageboard, but here is an age old saying which goes: 'You reap what you sow'.

    But then many Americans are of the opinion that 9/11 occured out of an historical vacuum.

    sounds like you are saying America got what it deserved on 9/11. wow, I'm really surprised to see that on here.
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    ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MrSmith wrote:
    the truth is Americans are fat and happy, so real change won't come until the bottom falls out and people are forced to pay attention (and probably when its too late).

    This is too true.
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    ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    sounds like you are saying America got what it deserved on 9/11. wow, I'm really surprised to see that on here.

    I didn't say 'America got what it deserved'. What I did was provide some obvious examples of why America had no right to regard itself as being outside the remit of violence. The only surprising thing about 9/11 was that it hadn't occured earlier.
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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I didn't say 'America got what it deserved'. What I did was provide some obvious examples of why America had no right to regard itself as being outside the remit of violence. The only surprising thing about 9/11 was that it hadn't occured earlier.

    those people in the world trade center had every right to regard themselves outside the remit of violence.

    ok I guess I'll ask. do you think America got what it deserved?
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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    I wonder if you'll answer this
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    lazymoon13 wrote:
    those people in the world trade center had every right to regard themselves outside the remit of violence.

    ok I guess I'll ask. do you think America got what it deserved?

    Occupational hazard would be more apt. Play with fire get burned...snake handlers get bitten etc...

    I kill your family and steal your land...you get pissed...kinda like that...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Occupational hazard would be more apt. Play with fire get burned...snake handlers get bitten etc...

    I kill your family and steal your land...you get pissed...kinda like that...


    when did those innocent workers play with fire? who's land did those workers in the WTC steal? who's family did they kill?

    so I'll ask you, although I think you'll dance around it or simply disappear like your friend, do you think America got what it deserved on 9/11 ? yes or no.
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    catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    my2hands wrote:
    and has become our own worst enemy?


    please share your thoughts


    yes.

    but you know i think a lot of governments around the world are the worst enemies of the people they supposedly represent. representative governments are not democracies.
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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    those people in the world trade center had every right to regard themselves outside the remit of violence.

    ok I guess I'll ask. do you think America got what it deserved?

    so neither you or that rolandtd wantt to take a stab at this question?
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    lazymoon13 wrote:
    when did those innocent workers play with fire? who's land did those workers in the WTC steal? who's family did they kill?

    so I'll ask you, although I think you'll dance around it or simply disappear like your friend, do you think America got what it deserved on 9/11 ? yes or no.


    what are you yammering on about?

    haven't you figured it out yet? According to the calendar, you've had almost 7 years to think about it...

    lol...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    what are you yammering on about?

    haven't you figured it out yet? According to the calendar, you've had almost 7 years to think about it...

    lol...

    what are you laughing about? I see its clear you won't answer the question.
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    lazymoon13 wrote:
    what are you laughing about? I see its clear you won't answer the question.


    Ok pose it to me in your own words, and I'll consider it jlew..

    and sigh....would you just ask Kat to change your nic back already?

    I'm sure she'll understand.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Ok pose it to me in your own words, and I'll consider it jlew..

    and sigh....would you just ask Kat to change your nic back already?

    I'm sure she'll understand.

    really guy, I don't know what this jlew stuff is about. you make it really difficult to debate anything with you, can you clearly see how immature you act? my question is do you think America deserved what it got on 9/11?
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    spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    when did those innocent workers play with fire? who's land did those workers in the WTC steal? who's family did they kill?

    so I'll ask you, although I think you'll dance around it or simply disappear like your friend, do you think America got what it deserved on 9/11 ? yes or no.

    Let me ask you a question, do any innocent people in the world deserve to die for there governments actions?
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    lazymoon13 wrote:
    really guy, I don't know what this jlew stuff is about. you make it really difficult to debate anything with you, can you clearly see how immature you act? my question is do you think America deserved what it got on 9/11?

    Signed sealed delivered guy...you're him. But anyhow...fool me you will not.

    Watch some John Pilger documentaries Jeff...then you will understand a bit better.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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    lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    spiral out wrote:
    Let me ask you a question, do any innocent people in the world deserve to die for there governments actions?

    no they do not.
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    memememe Posts: 4,693
    jlew24asu wrote:
    socialism takes away freedom. sorry, some of us enjoy it.

    Question for you and know1. Do you see any difference between money and freedom?
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    spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Signed sealed delivered guy...you're him. But anyhow...fool me you will not.

    Watch some John Pilger documentaries Jeff...then you will understand a bit better.

    Where is jlew anyway? there has been a lot less mud slinging round here lately.

    And if it was jlew you know full well that he would never watch a documentary that you recommend.
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    know1know1 Posts: 6,763
    I think it's out of control.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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    memememe Posts: 4,693
    fanch75 wrote:
    I can assure you that there are no Americans in the streets being denied care.

    You can't be serious.
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