Who here doesnt think the US government is insanely out of control?

my2hands
my2hands Posts: 17,117
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
and has become our own worst enemy?


please share your thoughts
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    The US government has been our own worst enemy for many decades now.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I was going to say, it started about 30 years a go...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I was going to say, it started about 30 years a go...

    I would go back a little further to say 1823 with the writting of the Monroe Doctrine. That was the initial pebble in the lake. The Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine was also a defining moment in the progession of our government becoming our enemy.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i would go back and say way back when man scurried down from trees and started eating poor defenseless animals.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I was born with a bias against the U.S. government. I'm Canadian.

    It's very difficult for me not to make assumptions about american people.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I was born with a bias against the U.S. government. I'm Canadian.
    why? I was born american and dont have a bias against your government.
    Ahnimus wrote:
    It's very difficult for me not to make assumptions about american people.

    why? you pretend to be a smart guy. seems you should be completely capable of not making assumptions about people.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    and has become our own worst enemy?


    please share your thoughts

    Bush and cabal have gotten essentially everything they want according to plan so far.

    I'm not sure how well the "they are all just so incompetent and bumbling" statement holds up.

    It was not a mistake to get tits deep in Iraq. It was actually planned and thought about for many years prior to it happening.

    Just an innocent bumbling mistake? heh yeah..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    We're all gonna DIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why? I was born american and dont have a bias against your government.

    You were
    why? you pretend to be a smart guy. seems you should be completely capable of not making assumptions about people.

    Maybe you don't understand the implicit association bias. At the subconscious level, African American's have a pro white bias. I personally have a slight bias for white people, a huge bias for Canada, no bias for age or sex, a moderate bias for thin people. As determined by an implicit association test. I take this into account when I act rationally.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    You were
    I was what?
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Maybe you don't understand the implicit association bias. At the subconscious level, African American's have a pro white bias. I personally have a slight bias for white people, a huge bias for Canada, no bias for age or sex, a moderate bias for thin people. As determined by an implicit association test. I take this into account when I act rationally.

    I absolutely understand association bias. thats why I get more upset when an american solider dies compared to an Iraqi solider.

    but I still try to not make general assumptions about groups of people. which you completely avoided addressing in you try to be smart way.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i like canada

    http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/canada-americas-hat-tshirt-sm.jpg
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    MrSmith wrote:
    i like canada

    http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/canada-americas-hat-tshirt-sm.jpg

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrSmith wrote:
    i like canada

    http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/canada-americas-hat-tshirt-sm.jpg


    what about shiny objects? :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I was born with a bias against the U.S. government. I'm Canadian.

    It's very difficult for me not to make assumptions about american people.
    Not being born in either of those countries, I just don't get the whole Canadians vs Us thing. What's with that? Like the way you say 'its' difficult not to make assumptions about american people'..... like there is something wrong with them...also i have read your posts in the past and you seem like you can be open minded and fair when it comes things, so it really surprises me that you would say something like that.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Bush and cabal have gotten essentially everything they want according to plan so far.

    I'm not sure how well the "they are all just so incompetent and bumbling" statement holds up.

    It was not a mistake to get tits deep in Iraq. It was actually planned and thought about for many years prior to it happening.

    Just an innocent bumbling mistake? heh yeah..

    It doesn't matter if bush is bumbling though, as he's just a puppet, he didn't write the plans. I'm sure the next president will be a little thick to.

    Bush is certainly the most stupid but regan wasn't much better.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I think the government is completely out of control.

    I also think it will get even worse if there's a Democratic President with a Democratic congress.

    Talk about liberties being stripped away.

    I shudder to think about it.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    know1 wrote:
    I think the government is completely out of control.

    I also think it will get even worse if there's a Democratic President with a Democratic congress.

    Talk about liberties being stripped away.

    I shudder to think about it.

    With the exception of Ron Paul, Kucinich, or Gavel, any of the other canidates will just continue to drive this country into the mud. It really is a sad testiment to our political system when the best we have to offer is Clinton, Guiliani, Romney, Obama, Edwards, and Thompson.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    mammasan wrote:
    With the exception of Ron Paul, Kucinich, or Gavel, any of the other canidates will just continue to drive this country into the mud. It really is a sad testiment to our political system when the best we have to offer is Clinton, Guiliani, Romney, Obama, Edwards, and Thompson.

    That is so true.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    the truth is Americans are fat and happy, so real change won't come until the bottom falls out and people are forced to pay attention (and probably when its too late).
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    MrSmith wrote:
    the truth is Americans are fat and happy, so real change won't come until the bottom falls out and people are forced to pay attention (and probably when its too late).

    And the government is the fattest and happiest of them all. It's ridiculous.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.

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