33 arrested protesting Iraq War

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeanie wrote:
    If anybody is interested I'm reading a really great book at the moment called: Emergency Sex (and other desperate measures) True Stories from a War Zone.
    It's by Kenneth Cain, Heidi Postlewait and Andrew Thomson, three UN workers who were posted in Rwanda, Bosnia, Somalia, Haiti, and Liberia and is taken from their diaries and personal accounts. It's an EXCELLENT read and certainly a warts and all look at the UN and it's postings.

    And as to the topic of the thread, well it's a damn shame that George and Co aren't arrested for crimes against humanity. I say arrest away fellas, use whatever excuse or law that you can, but the people are speaking, loud and clear. It's just a shame it appears to be having no affect on your selective deafness, or perhaps it's just a comprehension problem.

    I saw that book on a bookshelf. It looked good.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I saw that book on a bookshelf. It looked good.

    It's excellent Byrnzie and I thoroughly recommend it.
    Get your hands on a copy if you can, it's well worth the read. :)
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  • spiral out
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    Jeanie wrote:
    If anybody is interested I'm reading a really great book at the moment called: Emergency Sex (and other desperate measures) True Stories from a War Zone.
    It's by Kenneth Cain, Heidi Postlewait and Andrew Thomson, three UN workers who were posted in Rwanda, Bosnia, Somalia, Haiti, and Liberia and is taken from their diaries and personal accounts. It's an EXCELLENT read and certainly a warts and all look at the UN and it's postings.

    And as to the topic of the thread, well it's a damn shame that George and Co aren't arrested for crimes against humanity. I say arrest away fellas, use whatever excuse or law that you can, but the people are speaking, loud and clear. It's just a shame it appears to be having no affect on your selective deafness, or perhaps it's just a comprehension problem.

    Thanks for the recommendation i'm going to add this to my list of books to buy.
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    spiral out wrote:
    Thanks for the recommendation i'm going to add this to my list of books to buy.

    I think you'll really enjoy it spiral. I am. :)
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    bgivens33 wrote:
    Then maybe.... in the future you might title threads a bit more accurately ;)

    I mean, since you understand they were arrested for blocking the street and NOT protesting the war.


    oops, i'm sure he just made an honest mistake
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    oops, i'm sure he just made an honest mistake

    blocking the street was their form of war protest. so they were arrested for their form of protest.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    blocking the street was their form of war protest. so they were arrested for their form of protest.

    blocking the street is against the law. so they were arresting for blocking the street.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    my2hands wrote:
    blocking the street was their form of war protest. so they were arrested for their form of protest.

    If their form of protest was lighting babies on fire would that be OK, then?

    They broke the law. The were arrested for it. Sounds right to me. Civil disobedience at work. They got attention out of it, so they accomplished a short-term goal. Hopefully we'll see the end of the war soon, too, although I'm not convinced it will be because a handful of people played in traffic.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Was a war criminal arrested this day?
    Was a deceitful politician arrested this day?
    Was a mass murderer arrested this day?


    If I were a cow, I would be happy eating the oats you blokes are eating with your big brown-eyed "they broke the law" stares.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jeffbr wrote:
    If their form of protest was lighting babies on fire would that be OK, then?
    no, obviously
    They broke the law. The were arrested for it. Sounds right to me.
    never said it was wrong for them to be arrested. maybe i should dumb this down for some folks. I WAS SIMPLY POINTING OUT THAT PEOPLE PROTESTING THE WAR WERE ARRESTED FOR SOMETHING AS MINOR AS BLOCKING A STREET WHEN THE REAL CRIMINALS BEHIND THIS ILLEGAL INVASION ARE WALKING FREE EATING A 5 STAR DINNER TONIGHT WHILE WE FOOT THE BILL... no rocket science here, just pointing out the hypocricy and lunacy of the current situation
    Civil disobedience at work. They got attention out of it, so they accomplished a short-term goal.
    i agree
    Hopefully we'll see the end of the war soon, too, although I'm not convinced it will be because a handful of people played in traffic.
    i agree it will take more than a handful




    1. it is illegal to block a street
    2. It is illegal to pre-emptively invade a country based on lies

    one was arrested, the other walks free. thats my fucking point folks. nothing more nothing less
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:

    1. it is illegal to block a street
    2. It is illegal to pre-emptively invade a country based on lies

    one was arrested, the other walks free. thats my fucking point folks. nothing more nothing less

    #1 is true

    #2 is your opinion.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    #1 is true

    #2 is your opinion.


    which part of #2 is opinion
  • bgivens33
    bgivens33 Posts: 290
    my2hands wrote:
    which part of #2 is opinion

    Well, what law... .specifically states you can't invade a country based on lies??
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    bgivens33 wrote:
    Well, what law... .specifically states you can't invade a country based on lies??

    Moral law. Moral law is a system of guidelines for behavior. These guidelines may or may not be part of a religion, codified in written form, or legally enforceable. For some people moral law is synonymous with the commands of a divine being. For others, moral law is a set of universal rules that should apply to everyone.
  • chromiam
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    Jeanwah wrote:
    Moral law. Moral law is a system of guidelines for behavior. These guidelines may or may not be part of a religion, codified in written form, or legally enforceable. For some people moral law is synonymous with the commands of a divine being. For others, moral law is a set of universal rules that should apply to everyone.

    key words... not legally enforceable and I'd like to add not universially agreed upon.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    bgivens33 wrote:
    Well, what law... .specifically states you can't invade a country based on lies??

    this is like trying to debate with 9 year olds. there is no law, thanks for the rhetorical question.

    congress voted authorizing the war as well as the UN security counsel.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is like trying to debate with 9 year olds. there is no law, thanks for the rhetorical question.

    congress voted authorizing the war as well as the UN security counsel.

    Well I'm quite sure there are other forums more suited to your superior intellect if it proves too far beneath you here.

    I can only hope that at some point the American people will conduct a review and find what most of us believe to be true and that is that your congress may have voted but that the war is wrong and those people that made it happen are guilty of crimes against humanity. And should be held accountable for their actions just like any other nation that perpertrates these wrongs against another.

    And on that note this 9 year old with her inferior intellect is off to bed.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well I'm quite sure there are other forums more suited to your superior intellect if it proves too far beneath you here.

    I can only hope that at some point the American people will conduct a review and find what most of us believe to be true and that is that your congress may have voted but that the war is wrong and those people that made it happen are guilty of crimes against humanity. And should be held accountable for their actions just like any other nation that perpertrates these wrongs against another.

    And on that note this 9 year old with her inferior intellect is off to bed.

    Jeanie, you know I hold you on the same level as me. :) but the point is, trying to say this war is "illegal" is just dumb. immoral ? wrong ? bad mistake? yes.
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is like trying to debate with 9 year olds. there is no law, thanks for the rhetorical question.

    congress voted authorizing the war as well as the UN security counsel.

    Are you sure about the un part? I was under the impression that France and Russia threatened to vetoe the decision and thus the US stopped asking support from the un. Hence the illegal part, if you consider the un has a say in what is legal and illegal in international laws. Your country does not as it doesn't recognize the power of international courts. So from a us point of view the war is not illegal, from a european point of view that war is.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Kann wrote:
    Are you sure about the un part? I was under the impression that France and Russia threatened to vetoe the decision and thus the US stopped asking support from the un. Hence the illegal part, if you consider the un has a say in what is legal and illegal in international laws. Your country does not as it doesn't recognize the power of international courts. So from a us point of view the war is not illegal, from a european point of view that war is.

    i'm not fan of the Iraq war. but all this illegal talk is childish, as is this thread. no one was arrested for protesting.

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