Ralph Nader

Abookamongstthemany

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

so, how many elections do we give to the republicans before we can get a viable 3rd party?

the way I look at it, a win for McWar MIGHT potentially mean no election in 2012 because we could all be dead.

You should start actively campaining for nader. convince people!

You are a failure in this thread not because you have illusions about a 3rd party but because you did not inspire me to vote for nader.

If you believe it as deeply as you say you do take it to the streets and get to work.

stick a fork in me I'm DONE!

I have volunteered to campaign for Nader and have gotten pms from people who have said my posts here have inspired them to vote for Nader so I am happy with the progress I've made here and that success is certainly not dependent of gaining support from you. It's kinda funny that you think I'm a 'failure' based you not 'inspiring' YOU to vote Nader. Think much of yourself? All success is based on your support? lol I think I'm doing just fine, thank you.


And as far as continuing to vote out of fear and the end of the world is coming if McCain wins....yeah dude no illusions there. Jeez. Knock yourself out with that with that kinda crap but I'm moving on.

Abookamongstthemany

http://www.dianeszoo.com/ralphnader.htm

Urban Hiker

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I have volunteered to campaign for Nader and have gotten pms from people who have said my posts here have inspired them to vote for Nader so I am happy with the progress I've made here and that success is certainly not dependent of gaining support from you. It's kinda funny that you think I'm a 'failure' based you not 'inspiring' YOU to vote Nader. Think much of yourself? All success is based on your support? lol I think I'm doing just fine, thank you.


And as far as continuing to vote out of fear and the end of the world is coming if McCain wins....yeah dude no illusions there. Jeez. Knock yourself out with that with that kinda crap but I'm moving on.

Good Work , Abook.

You've done better than I. The best I've gotten is a conditional commitment from my mother. She will vote for Nader if Hillary isn't on the ballot. :rolleyes:

I'm trying.

I'm going to have to see if I can get on that volunteer list in time for summer community festivals.

Abookamongstthemany

Urban Hiker wrote:

Good Work , Abook.

You've done better than I. The best I've gotten is a conditional commitment from my mother. She will vote for Nader if Hillary isn't on the ballot. :rolleyes:

I'm trying.

I'm going to have to see if I can get on that volunteer list in time for summer community festivals.

Thank you, Hiker

You are one of the main ones here who inspired me to look into supporting Nader this year and I've never been prouder of a vote I intend to place in Nov!!

Urban Hiker

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Thank you, Hiker

You are one of the main ones here who inspired me to look into supporting Nader this year and I've never been prouder of a vote I intend to place in Nov!!

*blushes*

That's rad.

Truth be told. Your myspace bulletins and posts on here keep me going.

Now, how to get more on board....

We really need Ralph and Matt in the debates. They would cream the other candidates with FACTS over flowery rhetoric.

Abookamongstthemany

Urban Hiker wrote:

*blushes*

That's rad.

Truth be told. Your myspace bulletins and posts on here keep me going.

Now, how to get more on board....

We really need Ralph and Matt in the debates. They would cream the other candidates with FACTS over flowery rhetoric.

:):)

See, we are keeping each other on track!

Yes they would absolutely have the mainstreamers stuttering and fumbling over their words. We need to get a petition together or a website all about getting Nader/Gonzalez in the debates...and not just geared at Nader supporters but anyone who would like to have more voices allowed into the political arena in this country so people who other wise wouldn't have heard what they have to say would get a chance finally and know other options are out there.

Urban Hiker

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

:):)

See, we are keeping each other on track!

Yes they would absolutely have the mainstreamers stuttering and fumbling over their words. We need to get a petition together or a website all about getting Nader/Gonzalez in the debates...and not just geared at Nader supporters but anyone who would like to have more voices allowed into the political arena in this country so people who other wise wouldn't have heard what they have to say would get a chance finally and know other options are out there.

Reading this website: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/chrndebs08.html
It looks like ballot access is a first step, then there is the pesky 15% polling figure.
We need to know what polls qualify and who they are polling. Get the ears of the people their polling and we have it. (The butterflies in my belly tell me it's a tough road, but one worth treading.)

Abookamongstthemany

Urban Hiker wrote:

Reading this website: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/chrndebs08.html
It looks like ballot access is a first step, then there is the pesky 15% polling figure.
We need to know what polls qualify and who they are polling. Get the ears of the people their polling and we have it. (The butterflies in my belly tell me it's a tough road, but one worth treading.)

Yep it's tough but worth the fight. I hope to be out petitioning for ballot access in NC or any other state near by that it is needed. I'm excited!

my2hands

i think you would be better off writing in Kucinich


at least he has dedicated himself to public service as an elected official

my2hands

what happens when nader loses and rides off into the sunset for another 4 years?


where has he been? he has been fucking awol during one of the more serious times in our countries history... until the spot light of an election rolls around that is

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

i think you would be better off writing in Kucinich


at least he has dedicated himself to public service as an elected official

Nader has done more than enough for me to be proud about supporting, campaigning and voting for him. I'm thrilled, actually to be doing all of this for a man who I greatly admire and hold in high respect.

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

what happens when nader loses and rides off into the sunset for another 4 years?


where has he been? he has been fucking awol during one of the more serious times in our countries history... until the spot light of an election rolls around that is

That's a bullshit claim and it really points to your ignorance on Ralph Nader and all he does.

Abookamongstthemany

http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/04/21/monday-poll-nader-movin-on-up/

http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/04/17/nader-walks-the-talk/

hailhail82

my2hands wrote:

what happens when nader loses and rides off into the sunset for another 4 years?


where has he been? he has been fucking awol during one of the more serious times in our countries history... until the spot light of an election rolls around that is

AWOL? He's been here, and there, speaking out. Just because CNN or Fox isn't giving him airtime doesn't mean you can pretend he's not been here fighting the good fight all along.
Nader is the hardest working guy around for the citizen/consumer. The hatred thrown around by some who are obviously unaware of what he's done for the American people is embarrassing.

Here's some pieces from 2005 and 2006.

http://www.pacifica.org/programs/dn/051004.html
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-137241010.html
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-117281022.html
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/nationals/2005-12-13-stadium-deal_x.htm
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-139642458.html
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/12/19/18338716.php
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/12/29/18341957.php
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/11/04/18326404.php
http://www.pacifica.org/programs/dn/061108.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/nader02042006.html

edit: I see that after 4 and a half years, this is my 1000th post. Yay me.

stupidcorporatewhore

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Some of their music is against corporate owned politicians. Why don't you listen to something else, then?

this is a quote from a thread that is now closed

Really? I'll respond by using Eddie Vedder's own words:

"I supported Ralph Nader in 2000, but it's a time of crisis. We have to get a new administration in." (Rolling Stone september 2004)

it's cheap for a guy who claims to be on the high ground as you do to follow me from thread to thread.

now I'm done.

Abookamongstthemany

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

this is a quote from a thread that is now closed

Really? I'll respond by using Eddie Vedder's own words:

"I supported Ralph Nader in 2000, but it's a time of crisis. We have to get a new administration in." (Rolling Stone september 2004)

it's cheap for a guy who claims to be on the high ground as you do to follow me from thread to thread.

now I'm done.

It's a time of crisis right now and that's exactly why I'm supporting Nader.

I'm sorry. I just can't control myself. I see your posts and I feel so awe-struck. Then I just have to do a search to find out what other kind of high jinks you've been getting into!! I know you'll never let me down.


:rolleyes:

Get over yourself. Have you ever stopped and thought...for just a moment...that we happen to read the same threads here and will ALSO disagree in those? Yeah, what a crazy notion!

stupidcorporatewhore

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

It's a time of crisis right now and that's exactly why I'm supporting Nader.

I'm sorry. I just can't control myself. I see your posts and I feel so awe-struck. Then I just have to do a search to find out what other kind of high jinks you've been getting into!! I know you'll never let me down.


:rolleyes:

Get over yourself. Have you ever stopped and thought...for just a moment...that we happen to read the same threads here and will ALSO disagree in those? Yeah, what a crazy notion!

we agree on more than you think.

after all that we've said abook, I think I am assuming that Obama would get the nom. After the PA primary, with Hillary still alive I might be in a place of reconsideration.

If Hillary is the nominee and Nader had some (any) kind of momentum

fuck it, Ralph might just be my guy.

my2hands

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

we agree on more than you think.

after all that we've said abook, I think I am assuming that Obama would get the nom. After the PA primary, with Hillary still alive I might be in a place of reconsideration.

If Hillary is the nominee and Nader had some (any) kind of momentum

fuck it, Ralph might just be my guy.

dont worry, she wont win

Its Evolution Baby

I feel people like Al Gore and Ralph Nader do so much more good for this world when they aren't involved in politics. Especially being President.

Anyone who thinks that Nader could set his agenda and be able to implement it fully has not payed enough attention to politics over the years.

Abookamongstthemany

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

we agree on more than you think.

after all that we've said abook, I think I am assuming that Obama would get the nom. After the PA primary, with Hillary still alive I might be in a place of reconsideration.

If Hillary is the nominee and Nader had some (any) kind of momentum

fuck it, Ralph might just be my guy.

He is polling 5, 6 and even 10% in places with only being in the race for 2 months. I'm getting a ton of positive feedback from my myspace friends and a few here. I feel pretty happy with how things have been turning out. And I'm sooo excited to be volunterring for him in NC! I'm just proud for once to be supporting someone I am proud to be behind and feel good about!!!