counting bodies like sheep

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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    Why do people join the military? I still can't figure out why they do. It seems to me the only guaranteed way to stay off this list is to not enlist.

    To keep you off the list... Whether you appreciate it or not.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    cornnifer wrote:
    Thats nice. i worked, saved and paid for my degree as well, but, the point is alot of people join the military due to lack of any other college opprotunities. ALOT. Ask 'em.

    And my point was that there really aren't a lack of other opportunities. That's just the perception those individuals had.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    gue_barium wrote:
    The honorable idea is to defend against someone who's ultimate mission is going to involve killing you.

    So what makes my life worth more than theirs? I believe killing is wrong. Period. I'd rather die for what I believe than live and violate it.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    know1 wrote:
    So what makes my life worth more than theirs? I believe killing is wrong. Period. I'd rather die for what I believe than live and violate it.

    Well, you need a safe place to do that believing.
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  • yoke
    yoke Posts: 1,440
    know1 wrote:
    So what makes my life worth more than theirs? I believe killing is wrong. Period. I'd rather die for what I believe than live and violate it.



    Did you ever think that our soldiers think and feel the same way?
    Thats a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I wouldn't die for my beliefs. Everyone thinks people should die for their beliefs, is that so they shut up about their beliefs?

    See, I think dying is too easy, and you really need to make sure you get your point across before you die or else it's pointless.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ten Dude
    Ten Dude Posts: 50
    know1 wrote:
    Why do people join the military? I still can't figure out why they do. It seems to me the only guaranteed way to stay off this list is to not enlist.

    I joined up to see the world and experience things ordinary people couldn't possibly comprehend. Service to the nation was another factor. I had the option of going to college, but instead I wanted to do something else for myself. I wanted to get some discipline and find some direction.
  • Ten Dude
    Ten Dude Posts: 50
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Because they are delusional. Caught up in the indoctrination of nationalism, waving the flag, cheering for a massacre, praising their deity and worshiping their idols, protecting corruption. These people are brain-washed and they don't even know it. It's who they are. It's Hitler youth taken to the next level, it's embedded in education, national anthem, society at large. It's a superiority complex, a fundamental attribution error, part of the human fallacy. I suppose anyone could be a herder, as long as they realize first that they are a sheep.

    LMAO. You are laughably clueless. These people are delusional and brain-washed? Some sure are, but you'll get that anywhere.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abuskedti wrote:
    To keep you off the list... Whether you appreciate it or not.

    I didn't say I didn't appreciate it. You like to infer things that aren't there, huh?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.
    Staff Sgt. Marcus A. Golczynski, 30, of Lewisburg, Tenn., died March 27 from wounds received while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar province, Iraq. Golczynski was assigned to Marine Forces Reserve’s 3rd Battalion, 24th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, Nashville, Tenn.


    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Sgt. Curtis J. Forshey, 22, of Hollidaysburg, Pa., died Mar. 27 in Homburg, Germany, of a non-combat related illness. Forshey was assigned to the 129th Combat Sustainment Support Battalion, 101st Sustainment Brigade, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky.
  • Ten Dude
    Ten Dude Posts: 50
    Can you see to it that you maintain and update the casualty list until after all US troops are extracted from the combat zone?

    Thanks.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Ten Dude wrote:
    Can you see to it that you maintain and update the casualty list until after all US troops are extracted from the combat zone?

    Thanks.

    i am going to try my best
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Master Sgt. Sean M. Thomas, 33, of Harrisburg, Pa., died March 27 in Baghdad, Iraq, when his unit came in contact with enemy forces using indirect fire during combat operations. Thomas was assigned to the 28th Division Support Command, Harrisburg, Pa.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    To keep you off the list... Whether you appreciate it or not.


    great post abu. and I really mean that.
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    thats a truly moving list of lost souls my2, a truly moving gesture, seriously. And i show no surprise because your posts always shine with compassion.

    its a shame tho, that we could probably never produce a list of all the innocent iraqi souls lost to this fallacy too, and if we could, how many pages would it take up.

    Soldiers are paid to risk the ultimate, i know because i was one, and they're not all the same but most understand this.

    And when soldiers get involved in politics instead of following orders then the whole picture changes. Maybe not for the better.

    People vote in governments and allow them to stay in power.
  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    I think I saw a guy in there named Rusty Shackelford. He was in the 5th or 6th post.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Sgt. Joe Polo, 24, of Opalocka, Fla., died Mar. 29 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his unit was attacked by enemy forces using an improvised explosive device and small arms fire. Polo was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.



    The Department of Defense announced today the death of two soldiers who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. The soldiers died from wounds suffered Mar. 31 in Baghdad, Iraq, when an improvised explosive device detonated near their vehicle. They were assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 14th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, N.Y.

    Killed were:

    Staff Sgt. Jason R. Arnette, 24, of Amelia, Va. He died April 1 in Baghdad, Iraq.

    Spc. Wilfred Flores Jr., 20, of Lawton, Okla. He died Mar. 31 in Baghdad, Iraq.
  • TheVoiceInside
    TheVoiceInside Posts: 361
    Núñez’ remains arrive to the island
    Posted: Monday, April 2, 2007 - 12:12 PM

    SAN JUAN (AP) – The remains of Spc. Jason Núñez, 22, who died last week in Baquba, Iraq, will arrive at 12:30 Monday at the U.S. Muñiz Air Base in Carolina.

    Local U.S. Army spokesman José Pagán said there will be a military ceremony upon his arrival.

    Núñez is one of the three Puerto Rican soldiers who died in Iraq during the past two weeks.

    Last week Sgt. Ed Santini was buried on the island and Sgt. David A. Mejías died yesterday (Sunday) in Iraq.

    Meanwhile, Pagán said he didn’t have additional information regarding the arrival of Mejías’ reamains.

    He became the 58th Puerto Rican soldier fallen in the war the U.S. is fighting against terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq.
  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Thank you for showing it to us.

    As for why kids join the Army, I can only give you my nephew's story. His name is Johnny. He grew up in Arizona where he loved to ride dirt bikes, and didn't really have much interest in school. He dropped out somewhere around his junior or senior year.

    He dreamed of being a fireman or a cop but discovered that, without a high school education (and more), he wouldn't have much of a chance. So he walked into an Army recruitment center one day last summer, and now he's in Fort Campbell, waiting to be deployed to Iraq in August.

    He's 19.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    1st Lt. Neale M. Shank, 25, of Fort Wayne, Ind., died Mar. 31 in Baghdad, Iraq, from a non-combat related incident. His death is under investigation.

    Shank was assigned to the 1st Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, N.Y. For more information in regard to this release the media can contact the Fort Drum public affairs office at (315) 772-8286.

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Pfc. Miguel A. Marcial III, 19, of Secaucus, N.J., died April 1 in Al Anbar province, Iraq. His death is currently under investigation.

    Marcial was assigned to 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, N.C. For more information in regard to this release the media can contact the II Marine Expeditionary Force public affairs office at (910) 451-7200.

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of four soldiers who were supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. They died April 1 in Baghdad, Iraq, when an improvised explosive device detonated near their vehicle during combat operations. They were assigned to the 2nd Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, N.Y.

    Killed were:

    Staff Sgt. David A. Mejias, 26, of San Juan, Puerto Rico.

    Staff Sgt. Eric R. Vick, 25, of Spring Hope, N.C.

    Sgt. Robert M. McDowell, 30, of Deer Park, Texas.

    Spc. William G. Bowling, 24, of Beattyville, Ky.

    For more information in regard to this release the media can contact the Fort Drum public affairs office at (315) 772-8286

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Spc. Brian E. Ritzberg, 24, of Long Island, New York, died April 2 in Balad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his unit during combat operations in Kirkuk, Iraq. Ritzberg was assigned to the 977th Military Police Company, 97th Military Police Battalion, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kansas.

    For more information in regard to this release the media can contact the Fort Riley public affairs office at (785) 239-3410.

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Staff Sgt. Bradley D. King, 28, of Marion, Ind., died April 2 in Al Amiriyah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an improvised explosive device detonated near his vehicle during combat operations. King was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 152nd Infantry Regiment, 76th Infantry Brigade, Marion, Ind.

    For more information in regard to this release the media can contact the Indiana Army National Guard at (317) 247-3105.

    The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    Lance Cpl. Daniel R. Olsen, 20, of Eagan, Minn., died April 2 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar province, Iraq. Olsen was assigned to 2nd Battalion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

    Media with questions about this Marine can contact the Twentynine Palms public affairs office at (760) 830-5476.

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