Why do people join the military? I still can't figure out why they do. It seems to me the only guaranteed way to stay off this list is to not enlist.
Because all of America's money is tied up in war. They can't afford to provide proper educational funding to young adults. This way they can promise funding to all of them and only have to pay out to half.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Because all of America's money is tied up in war. They can't afford to provide proper educational funding to young adults. This way they can promise funding to all of them and only have to pay out to half.
That doesn't even come close to answering the question I posed about why individuals enlist. In addition, it's not very accurate.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
That doesn't even come close to answering the question I posed about why individuals enlist. In addition, it's not very accurate.
Educational Funding. I further explained how the government exploits the poverty of these individuals for their own personal gain.
Of course it's mostly speculation, perhaps they are simply martyrs, fighting for "freedom and liberty". Maybe they are just brain-washed.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Why do people join the military? I still can't figure out why they do. It seems to me the only guaranteed way to stay off this list is to not enlist.
Obviously it isn't for everybody. Somebody has to do it, though. That's a fact. As for Iraq I'm gonna take a guess and say that the overwhelming majority of those that have served there were enlisted before 2003.
Obviously it isn't for everybody. Somebody has to do it, though. That's a fact. As for Iraq I'm gonna take a guess and say that the overwhelming majority of those that have served there were enlisted before 2003.
If nobody does it, could they even have wars?
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I know that singing up is ones choice but what if your Puertorican you dont have the right to vote for the one person who sends you to war. As is the situation if your a resident of the island. We have sacrificed too much for this bullshit war and we dont even have a say in it.
Another Puerto Rican soldier dies in Iraq
Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 02:32 PM
SAN JUAN (AP) – Spc. Jason Nuñez, born in Naranjito, died in Baqubah, Iraq after a suicide bomber attacked the convoy he was on. He was 23 years old.
Army spokesman José Pagán said Nuñez was an active Army soldier member of the 82nd Airborne Division with headquarters in Ft. Bragg, N.C..
He said they still have no information about the transfer of his remains to the island.
With Nuñez’ death, the death toll of Puerto Rican soldiers fallen in Afghanistan and Iraq stands at 57.
Sunday, soldier Ed Santini, 25, who died a week ago also in Iraq, was buried in Bayamón’s National Cemetery.
If a dude like Bush says "Them folks is evil, get 'em!"
It's justified to kill whomever he points his finger at.
But.. If a dude like Charles Manson says "Them folks is evil, get 'em!"
Well, hey, that's a serious crime, you can't do that.
They are both fucking whack jobs, so I don't see the difference, could have very well elected ol' Charlie Manson as the president. Except the family didn't kill many people, and maybe Charlie's words mean something here "maybe I should have killed four or five hundred people, then I would have really offered society something." Well Charlie, looks like Bush has outdone you.
Gonna rant a bit about this, cause what Manson was saying is that the fucking warmongers in government start these massacres for corporate profits, they send the poor off to war and the rich sit back and get richer.
In any case, killing and war are crap. This war is a fucking disgrace to the human species. But I knew that shit going into it, and all the kings horses and all the kings men, took all the sheep to war again.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
If a dude like Bush says "Them folks is evil, get 'em!"
It's justified to kill whomever he points his finger at.
But.. If a dude like Charles Manson says "Them folks is evil, get 'em!"
Well, hey, that's a serious crime, you can't do that.
They are both fucking whack jobs, so I don't see the difference, could have very well elected ol' Charlie Manson as the president. Except the family didn't kill many people, and maybe Charlie's words mean something here "maybe I should have killed four or five hundred people, then I would have really offered society something." Well Charlie, looks like Bush has outdone you.
Gonna rant a bit about this, cause what Manson was saying is that the fucking warmongers in government start these massacres for corporate profits, they send the poor off to war and the rich sit back and get richer.
In any case, killing and war are crap. This war is a fucking disgrace to the human species. But I knew that shit going into it, and all the kings horses and all the kings men, took all the sheep to war again.
All wars are a disgrace. I still don't understand the mentality of someone joining an organization whose ultimate mission is probably going to involve killing someone.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Paris Hilton's new shoes, Lohan's new bathing suit...ahh...gimme all that societal novacaine to soothe and shield me.
.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
All wars are a disgrace. I still don't understand the mentality of someone joining an organization whose ultimate mission is probably going to involve killing someone.
Because they are delusional. Caught up in the indoctrination of nationalism, waving the flag, cheering for a massacre, praising their deity and worshiping their idols, protecting corruption. These people are brain-washed and they don't even know it. It's who they are. It's Hitler youth taken to the next level, it's embedded in education, national anthem, society at large. It's a superiority complex, a fundamental attribution error, part of the human fallacy. I suppose anyone could be a herder, as long as they realize first that they are a sheep.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Because they are delusional. Caught up in the indoctrination of nationalism, waving the flag, cheering for a massacre, praising their deity and worshiping their idols, protecting corruption. These people are brain-washed and they don't even know it. It's who they are. It's Hitler youth taken to the next level, it's embedded in education, national anthem, society at large. It's a superiority complex, a fundamental attribution error, part of the human fallacy. I suppose anyone could be a herder, as long as they realize first that they are a sheep.
I think blaming it on brain washing is a copout. I think people are more responsible for their own actions than that.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I think blaming it on brain washing is a copout. I think people are more responsible for their own actions than that.
Then why ask the question why?
See, you are looking for causality 'Why do people join the military?'
If there is a cause for their decision, then they've hardly any choice in the matter and could therefor not be responsible for their own action.
So, maybe we should never ask "Why" and dispell of this delusion; causality.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
self-brainwashing is the worst and most subtle kind there is. Obviously the little oval office ego stroke meetings serve only to enhance the self-brainfucking process. That much would seem to be apparent using basic observation skills.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Maybe not for people from YOUR neighborhood, but where i come from...
What neighborhood is that? I worked at least 30 hours per week during college and full time in the summers. My parents chipped in a very small percentage of my college funds and I paid for the rest.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You can believe that the individual has free will and still ask them about their motivation for their actions.
What's the point?
With free-will, motivation is irrelevant.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Maybe free will was a poor choice of words. I meant the individual can be solely responsible for their actions and you can still ask them why they did it.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
There's (one) more kid
that will never go to school
Never get to fall in love,
never get to be cool.
Neil Young - RITFW - Somehow this quote seemed appropriate in this thread..
This is sooo sad.....I wonder how Bush/Cheney, & others sleep at night.....???
Hope they like each other, they will be spending a lot of time in Hell together......
Maybe free will was a poor choice of words. I meant the individual can be solely responsible for their actions and you can still ask them why they did it.
Ok, but you think they are immune to brain-washing?
The way I see it, we are mostly all brain-washed. Except Angelica and myself, and maybe FFG, Baraka, Abook, El_Kabong I'm not so sure about, Soulsinging is coming around, can't forget catefrances she doesn't even use caps. Did I miss anyone? Jlew, L_E, OLS, mostly just republican robots under the guise of religious revelation. Ok, don't hit me.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
some people take the time to thoughtfully prepare and experience their food to discern all the different flavors.
Others are happy to just gobble down what's put in front of them.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Ok, but you think they are immune to brain-washing?
The way I see it, we are mostly all brain-washed. Except Angelica and myself, and maybe FFG, Baraka, Abook, El_Kabong I'm not so sure about, Soulsinging is coming around, can't forget catefrances she doesn't even use caps. Did I miss anyone? Jlew, L_E, OLS, mostly just republican robots under the guise of religious revelation. Ok, don't hit me.
I do not think EVERYONE is immune to brain washing, but I think too many people whip that term out far too quickly and easily. I think they're mistaking it with "influenced" or "experiences".
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I do not think EVERYONE is immune to brain washing, but I think too many people whip that term out far too quickly and easily. I think they're mistaking it with "influenced" or "experiences".
There is a thin line there.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I've watched people I know well become hypnotized or brainwashed on stage in 10 mins flat. It's definitely real, and quite scary.
The effects were not limited to just being on stage either. Their trigger was to snap out of it next time they went to the bathroom.
MY one buddy was sweating heavily, eyes dilated, strange expression. We followed him into the washroom to watch him snap out of it... he was totally confused and pretty messed up.
Very interesting to witness.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
When you hit rock bottom....the Army is there to pull you up, and ship you out to meet the reaper.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
All wars are a disgrace. I still don't understand the mentality of someone joining an organization whose ultimate mission is probably going to involve killing someone.
The honorable idea is to defend against someone who's ultimate mission is going to involve killing you.
What neighborhood is that? I worked at least 30 hours per week during college and full time in the summers. My parents chipped in a very small percentage of my college funds and I paid for the rest.
Thats nice. i worked, saved and paid for my degree as well, but, the point is alot of people join the military due to lack of any other college opprotunities. ALOT. Ask 'em.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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Because all of America's money is tied up in war. They can't afford to provide proper educational funding to young adults. This way they can promise funding to all of them and only have to pay out to half.
That doesn't even come close to answering the question I posed about why individuals enlist. In addition, it's not very accurate.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Educational Funding. I further explained how the government exploits the poverty of these individuals for their own personal gain.
Of course it's mostly speculation, perhaps they are simply martyrs, fighting for "freedom and liberty". Maybe they are just brain-washed.
Obviously it isn't for everybody. Somebody has to do it, though. That's a fact. As for Iraq I'm gonna take a guess and say that the overwhelming majority of those that have served there were enlisted before 2003.
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If nobody does it, could they even have wars?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Another Puerto Rican soldier dies in Iraq
Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 - 02:32 PM
SAN JUAN (AP) – Spc. Jason Nuñez, born in Naranjito, died in Baqubah, Iraq after a suicide bomber attacked the convoy he was on. He was 23 years old.
Army spokesman José Pagán said Nuñez was an active Army soldier member of the 82nd Airborne Division with headquarters in Ft. Bragg, N.C..
He said they still have no information about the transfer of his remains to the island.
With Nuñez’ death, the death toll of Puerto Rican soldiers fallen in Afghanistan and Iraq stands at 57.
Sunday, soldier Ed Santini, 25, who died a week ago also in Iraq, was buried in Bayamón’s National Cemetery.
Interesting...
I'm curious about something...
If a dude like Bush says "Them folks is evil, get 'em!"
It's justified to kill whomever he points his finger at.
But.. If a dude like Charles Manson says "Them folks is evil, get 'em!"
Well, hey, that's a serious crime, you can't do that.
They are both fucking whack jobs, so I don't see the difference, could have very well elected ol' Charlie Manson as the president. Except the family didn't kill many people, and maybe Charlie's words mean something here "maybe I should have killed four or five hundred people, then I would have really offered society something." Well Charlie, looks like Bush has outdone you.
Gonna rant a bit about this, cause what Manson was saying is that the fucking warmongers in government start these massacres for corporate profits, they send the poor off to war and the rich sit back and get richer.
In any case, killing and war are crap. This war is a fucking disgrace to the human species. But I knew that shit going into it, and all the kings horses and all the kings men, took all the sheep to war again.
All wars are a disgrace. I still don't understand the mentality of someone joining an organization whose ultimate mission is probably going to involve killing someone.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Paris Hilton's new shoes, Lohan's new bathing suit...ahh...gimme all that societal novacaine to soothe and shield me.
.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Because they are delusional. Caught up in the indoctrination of nationalism, waving the flag, cheering for a massacre, praising their deity and worshiping their idols, protecting corruption. These people are brain-washed and they don't even know it. It's who they are. It's Hitler youth taken to the next level, it's embedded in education, national anthem, society at large. It's a superiority complex, a fundamental attribution error, part of the human fallacy. I suppose anyone could be a herder, as long as they realize first that they are a sheep.
I think blaming it on brain washing is a copout. I think people are more responsible for their own actions than that.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Then why ask the question why?
See, you are looking for causality 'Why do people join the military?'
If there is a cause for their decision, then they've hardly any choice in the matter and could therefor not be responsible for their own action.
So, maybe we should never ask "Why" and dispell of this delusion; causality.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
You can believe that the individual has free will and still ask them about their motivation for their actions.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Maybe not for people from YOUR neighborhood, but where i come from...
What neighborhood is that? I worked at least 30 hours per week during college and full time in the summers. My parents chipped in a very small percentage of my college funds and I paid for the rest.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
What's the point?
With free-will, motivation is irrelevant.
Maybe free will was a poor choice of words. I meant the individual can be solely responsible for their actions and you can still ask them why they did it.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
that will never go to school
Never get to fall in love,
never get to be cool.
Neil Young - RITFW - Somehow this quote seemed appropriate in this thread..
This is sooo sad.....I wonder how Bush/Cheney, & others sleep at night.....???
Hope they like each other, they will be spending a lot of time in Hell together......
Ok, but you think they are immune to brain-washing?
The way I see it, we are mostly all brain-washed. Except Angelica and myself, and maybe FFG, Baraka, Abook, El_Kabong I'm not so sure about, Soulsinging is coming around, can't forget catefrances she doesn't even use caps. Did I miss anyone? Jlew, L_E, OLS, mostly just republican robots under the guise of religious revelation. Ok, don't hit me.
Others are happy to just gobble down what's put in front of them.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Freedom cost a buck o' 5.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
I do not think EVERYONE is immune to brain washing, but I think too many people whip that term out far too quickly and easily. I think they're mistaking it with "influenced" or "experiences".
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
There is a thin line there.
these lives are worth roughly 52 cents a gallon i thought...but gas is going back up now that we control it
who could have ever saw this coming??
price gouge own citizens? BRILLIANT! BRILLIANT!
The effects were not limited to just being on stage either. Their trigger was to snap out of it next time they went to the bathroom.
MY one buddy was sweating heavily, eyes dilated, strange expression. We followed him into the washroom to watch him snap out of it... he was totally confused and pretty messed up.
Very interesting to witness.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
-Greg Dulli
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
The honorable idea is to defend against someone who's ultimate mission is going to involve killing you.
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Thats nice. i worked, saved and paid for my degree as well, but, the point is alot of people join the military due to lack of any other college opprotunities. ALOT. Ask 'em.