Why doesnt Ralph Nader help build a viable 3rd party between elections?

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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Like an echo chamber in here... :p;)
    ...ere...ere...ee.



    :p
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  • Like an echo chamber in here... :p;)

    I love echo chambers!

    Heeelllllloooo llllooooo lllllooooo

    Is there anybody out there there there there?????

    :D

    Why didn't you tell me about this echo chamber before? :mad:
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelica wrote:
    Well said. :)

    I see you knew about this chamber, too. :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • I love echo chambers!

    Heeelllllloooo llllooooo lllllooooo

    Is there anybody out there there there there?????

    :D

    Why didn't you tell me about this echo chamber before? :mad:

    I'm sorry... I will do better. :(

    Okay, weird tangent. :D

    Right behind my house, there's a HUGE group of fields and farmland and such. I forget how exactly I discovered this, but if you go to one specific spot in one of the fields, and shout really fucking loud, you can totally hear it echoing across the housing estates. :D
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    I see you knew about this chamber, too. :D


    shhhhhhhhhhh! :p:D
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    ...Okay, weird tangent...
    :eek:

    weird?? never!!
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • I'm sorry... I will do better. :(

    Okay, weird tangent. :D

    Right behind my house, there's a HUGE group of fields and farmland and such. I forget how exactly I discovered this, but if you go to one specific spot in one of the fields, and shout really fucking loud, you can totally hear it echoing across the housing estates. :D


    :p


    We totally have to go out there and yell 'well said' and 'exactly' to each other one of these days! We have to stay true to form, after all.
    :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • :p


    We totally have to go out there and yell 'well said' and 'exactly' to each other one of these days! We have to stay true to form, after all.
    :D

    Well said. :)




    :p
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • angelica wrote:
    :eek:

    weird?? never!!

    I'm showing a rarely-seen side of myself here... :D
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Well said. :)




    :p


    Exactly!!!

    :D



    oh boy, I've got the giggles now....:p
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Exactly!!!

    :D



    oh boy, I've got the giggles now....:p

    It's been a while since we properly derailed a thread. I missed this. :D

    Um... *thread integrity*

    There. :D
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    wow...doesn't look like I've missed much here. :)
  • wow...doesn't look like I've missed much here. :)


    Seeing people have fun frustrates me also.

    hehe

    check...check... 1...2...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaDLxSHVsVo&hl=en
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Seeing people have fun frustrates me also.

    hehe

    check...check... 1...2...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaDLxSHVsVo&hl=en


    you just dropped Rush and Neil fucking Peart on us!



    exactly

    well said

    thread closed

    :)
  • my2hands wrote:
    you just dropped Rush and Neil fucking Peart on us!



    exactly

    well said

    thread closed

    :)


    They played the Air Canada Center a few years back in Toronto and wailed out a nearly 3 hour non stop concert...

    My balls nearly fell off. I was not worthy...

    :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    wow...doesn't look like I've missed much here.
    Seeing people have fun frustrates me also.

    hehe

    check...check... 1...2...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaDLxSHVsVo&hl=en

    First I see Eliot's comment, which cracked me up....!!!

    Then you, Roland. Your reply was funny in of itself....then I click on the link.....oh man!!! :D

    Thanks people. I needed that. I just worked at a Healing Forum at the school my friend's son - who committed suicide in January - attended. Thanks for the humour...our...our...rr!! :D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    when this mutual-admiration masturbation orgy is over, can someone answer my question? or even take a stab at m2h's original question??

    here's mine:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5488944&postcount=53

    here's his, reworded for those who may not have gotten it the first time:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5488020&postcount=45
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

    "i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
    ~ed, 8/7
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    when this mutual-admiration masturbation orgy is over, can someone answer my question?
    not me!
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica wrote:
    not me!

    Well said. :D
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Well said. :D
    :D


















    Exactly!! :eek::D:p
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica wrote:
    :D

    Exactly!! :eek::D:p

    actly... ly... yyy...

    We're gonna get this thread locked. :p
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    actly... ly... yyy...

    We're gonna get this thread locked. :p
    :D

    okay...admittedly, you've got an actual point here!!



    I'll backtrack and give sweetpotato a serious answer:
    angelica wrote:
    when this mutual-admiration masturbation orgy is over, can someone answer my question?
    when this mutual-admiration masturbation orgy is over, can someone answer my question....tion....tion....

    Wait...that's not it.......

    ALERT: Real Answer!:

    see post #56....

    aka:
    angelica wrote:
    ...when someone talks to me like they are my parent...I get tempted to act "smart" ....

    This is a basic tenet of transactional analysis, the branch of psychology that studies human interactions: When we talk down to others, or in a parental fashion, we generally hook their inner child reactions.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    when this mutual-admiration masturbation orgy is over, can someone answer my question? or even take a stab at m2h's original question??

    here's mine:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5488944&postcount=53

    here's his, reworded for those who may not have gotten it the first time:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5488020&postcount=45

    I believe the problem is that no one CAN answer that question without admitting that Nader truly doesnt care about creating a viable third party (unless its called the Ego party).
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    I believe the problem is that no one CAN answer that question ....
    I'll admit that I really just can't answer the question...given I know basically nothing about the man...I'm clearly here for the mutual masturbation...


    The others, however, have spoken for what they see. Because someone doesn't answer to your agenda, or sweetpotato's or my2hands, doesn't automatically slot them into a position you'd like them to be in. It shows they have a different agenda.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    I believe the problem is that no one CAN answer that question without admitting that Nader truly doesnt care about creating a viable third party (unless its called the Ego party).
    uhhh...excuse me? http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5487848&postcount=38
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    when this mutual-admiration masturbation orgy is over, can someone answer my question? or even take a stab at m2h's original question??

    here's mine:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5488944&postcount=53

    here's his, reworded for those who may not have gotten it the first time:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5488020&postcount=45


    too funny. how many questions have my2hands and other obama supporters failed to answer?? maybe i should take the angle you all take and just start to cry about how mean you are and scream 'i don't owe an explanation to you!!!!!!!' then talk about passing pm's back and forth at the unfair treatment of asking me defend my beliefs?

    why hasn't obama done ANYTHING w/ his time in the senate other than going on a media tour missing almost 1/2 the votes???

    and i started a thread months ago asking for obama supporters to give me some reasons to vote for him over anyone else. no one could do it. just like you guys can't do it when i put you on the spot and ask why you support him. other than the moving, groundbreaking dissertation of 'he's the only realistic option, get over it!!'

    maybe he sees the issues he pushes in between cycles as more important or maybe he hopes ppl will start supporting better candidates.

    what do you want him to do exactly.

    maybe we should compare resumes of nader and obama? what has obama done, other than go to court to get everyone else thrown off so he could run in his senate race unopposed??? he lies about being involved in bills, he lies about lobbyists, he lied about rezko....

    sorry, but there's so many questions on obama i've asked you guys and none of you could EVER give an answer, so it seems a bit funny to see you guys here demanding answers when you steadfastly refuse to ever give any yourselves.

    also, where are the anti libertarian threads? a few weeks ago ppl were bitching that nader took too long to start running which proved he wasn't serious, but didn't the libertarians just pick their nominee???? so why aren't ppl up in arms about that and questioning their intentions?? i think i know why, tho i doubt you'll be truthful about it
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    El_Kabong wrote:
    too funny. how many questions have my2hands and other obama supporters failed to answer?? maybe i should take the angle you all take and just start to cry about how mean you are and scream 'i don't owe an explanation to you!!!!!!!' then talk about passing pm's back and forth at the unfair treatment of asking me defend my beliefs?

    why hasn't obama done ANYTHING w/ his time in the senate other than going on a media tour missing almost 1/2 the votes???

    and i started a thread months ago asking for obama supporters to give me some reasons to vote for him over anyone else. no one could do it. just like you guys can't do it when i put you on the spot and ask why you support him. other than the moving, groundbreaking dissertation of 'he's the only realistic option, get over it!!'

    maybe he sees the issues he pushes in between cycles as more important or maybe he hopes ppl will start supporting better candidates.

    what do you want him to do exactly.

    maybe we should compare resumes of nader and obama? what has obama done, other than go to court to get everyone else thrown off so he could run in his senate race unopposed??? he lies about being involved in bills, he lies about lobbyists, he lied about rezko....

    sorry, but there's so many questions on obama i've asked you guys and none of you could EVER give an answer, so it seems a bit funny to see you guys here demanding answers when you steadfastly refuse to ever give any yourselves.

    also, where are the anti libertarian threads? a few weeks ago ppl were bitching that nader took too long to start running which proved he wasn't serious, but didn't the libertarians just pick their nominee???? so why aren't ppl up in arms about that and questioning their intentions?? i think i know why, tho i doubt you'll be truthful about it
    Well said....




    :o
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453

    It's OK, I didnt smell it.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    El_Kabong wrote:
    too funny. how many questions have my2hands and other obama supporters failed to answer?? maybe i should take the angle you all take and just start to cry about how mean you are and scream 'i don't owe an explanation to you!!!!!!!' then talk about passing pm's back and forth at the unfair treatment of asking me defend my beliefs?

    why hasn't obama done ANYTHING w/ his time in the senate other than going on a media tour missing almost 1/2 the votes???

    and i started a thread months ago asking for obama supporters to give me some reasons to vote for him over anyone else. no one could do it. just like you guys can't do it when i put you on the spot and ask why you support him. other than the moving, groundbreaking dissertation of 'he's the only realistic option, get over it!!'

    maybe he sees the issues he pushes in between cycles as more important or maybe he hopes ppl will start supporting better candidates.

    what do you want him to do exactly.

    maybe we should compare resumes of nader and obama? what has obama done, other than go to court to get everyone else thrown off so he could run in his senate race unopposed??? he lies about being involved in bills, he lies about lobbyists, he lied about rezko....

    sorry, but there's so many questions on obama i've asked you guys and none of you could EVER give an answer, so it seems a bit funny to see you guys here demanding answers when you steadfastly refuse to ever give any yourselves.

    also, where are the anti libertarian threads? a few weeks ago ppl were bitching that nader took too long to start running which proved he wasn't serious, but didn't the libertarians just pick their nominee???? so why aren't ppl up in arms about that and questioning their intentions?? i think i know why, tho i doubt you'll be truthful about it


    I've answered the "why I'm voting for Obama" question a couple of times....oh well...

    I'll say this, Nader has done some good things, hooray for him, but...he's very very very far to the left...I want someone in the middle...

    as for the lack of Libertarian threads, I'm not sure I understand your point...I would be willing to bet the McCain folks may be more upset than Obama folks...

    also, Libertarians have been consistent in attempting to build there party, they just don't show up every for years and say "hey, look at me"....
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