if religion is supposed to be good...

bryanfurybryanfury Posts: 460
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
why is it destroying the world?

the extremist factions of the religions in question (jews, muslims, christians) have taken over and are leading the world into chaos.

i'm sick of hearing Chrisitans hear talk about "those crazy muslims" while their leaders refuse to admit global warming is real.

and i'm sick of muslim leaders saying the pope should step down (or be killed) for what he said when they preach nothing but hate for other religous groups.

and I'm sick of the Jews and their "what about me?" attitude when it comes to their oppression of Palestine.

i've fucking had it!
those undecided, needn't have faith to be free
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  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    I do not have a very favorable opinion of religion. In fact, I think that it could be the undoing of the human race. That doesn't mean that I don't believe in God...I totally do...just that I think that all religion is a lie, and that's why you see so much suffering surrounding it.

    God...Allah...they are all alive and here right now. You won't find them in a book, church, mosque, or religious exercise. The harder you look for them there, the farther away from them you will get.

    That is what the vast majority of people...hundreds of millions the world over...just don't get. Religion cannot prevail, because religion is not God. Wars fought over religion are really just wars that humans would fight anyway. religion is only the excuse.
  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    christians are the cause of global warming?


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  • relgion is destroying the world; extremists are destroying the world

    extremists see their religion as the only way to live life. religious/spiritual people see religion as a guide for living life.
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  • brainofPJ wrote:
    christians are the cause of global warming?

    "What, the polar icecaps are melting? Fine ... I shall turn the other cheek!"
    ;)
  • enharmonic wrote:
    I do not have a very favorable opinion of religion. In fact, I think that it could be the undoing of the human race. That doesn't mean that I don't believe in God...I totally do...just that I think that all religion is a lie, and that's why you see so much suffering surrounding it.

    God...Allah...they are all alive and here right now. You won't find them in a book, church, mosque, or religious exercise. The harder you look for them there, the farther away from them you will get.

    That is what the vast majority of people...hundreds of millions the world over...just don't get. Religion cannot prevail, because religion is not God. Wars fought over religion are really just wars that humans would fight anyway. religion is only the excuse.

    right on. by using the "excuse" of religion, people can't argue. its like "well shit, if its for god..."

    religion is just a form of control, and has divided people for thousands of years. and here we are on the brink of world devesatation, and all because religous groups can;t get along?

    mind blowing!
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  • "What, the polar icecaps are melting? Fine ... I shall turn the other cheek!"
    ;)

    yeah, it'll pass. no big deal
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    enharmonic wrote:
    I do not have a very favorable opinion of religion. In fact, I think that it could be the undoing of the human race. That doesn't mean that I don't believe in God...I totally do...just that I think that all religion is a lie, and that's why you see so much suffering surrounding it.

    God...Allah...they are all alive and here right now. You won't find them in a book, church, mosque, or religious exercise. The harder you look for them there, the farther away from them you will get.

    That is what the vast majority of people...hundreds of millions the world over...just don't get. Religion cannot prevail, because religion is not God. Wars fought over religion are really just wars that humans would fight anyway. religion is only the excuse.
    ...
    I'm right there with you. I believe in my personal faith in God... not in the religions that Man created in His name.
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  • bryanfury wrote:
    yeah, it'll pass. no big deal

    I see the other poster's point, though ... It is not something about Christian doctrine that causes people to deny global warming. It has something to do with our society ... Capitalism? Ignorance? Ditto with the Jews "poor me" thing you identified. I happen to think that they have a point, mind you, but regardless, they don't act that way because they're Jewish. The political and social situation causes them to act this way, not the religion, necessarily.

    And the point about Islam? Maybe there's a stronger case for a religious cause there. Or, maybe it says more about some of the bigots who practice it. Islam can be practiced in a tolerant fashion.
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  • The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I think the intentions of Religion are well meant... it just seems to drop the ball in its execution. Leaving the interpretation of the Holy Scripture to a few seems like it opens the door to corruption. That is how an Ayatollah Khomeni can hi-jack a sect... how a David Koresh can warp his followers and how a whole bunch of people can follow Jim Jone's lead and drink the Purple Kool-aid.
    Maybe, God and Jesus and Mohammed would be better served if we all just read our Holy Text and got the inspiration ourselves... not from the guy at the pulpit.
    ...
    But... that's just me... and i don't expect anyone to follow or listen.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    bryanfury wrote:
    i'm sick of hearing Chrisitans hear talk about "those crazy muslims" while their leaders refuse to admit global warming is real.

    That's a very strange comparison and I fail to see the relevance.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    bryanfury wrote:
    why is it destroying the world?

    the extremist factions of the religions in question (jews, muslims, christians) have taken over and are leading the world into chaos.

    i'm sick of hearing Chrisitans hear talk about "those crazy muslims" while their leaders refuse to admit global warming is real.

    and i'm sick of muslim leaders saying the pope should step down (or be killed) for what he said when they preach nothing but hate for other religous groups.

    and I'm sick of the Jews and their "what about me?" attitude when it comes to their oppression of Palestine.

    i've fucking had it!

    religion isn't destroying the world, evil people manipulating it are.

    you're equating muslim extremists who fly planes into building and riot after cartoons with leaders refusing to admit global warming? that's not a fair comparison at all.
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  • bryanfury wrote:
    ...here we are on the brink of world devesatation...

    i can't stop laughing at this.
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  • brainofPJ wrote:
    christians are the cause of global warming?
    when you read the bible from start to finish and view it in a economics point of view... in Genesis man is tasked to lord over nature.. then conquer lands and eventually build permanent structures for living & worshipping... offereing animals for sacrifice... evengilization: all these have sort of resulted to the colonization of the East and industrializing the East. what i've observed is that colonized places are the most over-developed & over-industrialized (with exceptions) in the world, and in effect these places' enviroment are destroyed.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    bryanfury wrote:
    why is it destroying the world?


    cause people are idiots.
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  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    when you read the bible from start to finish and view it in a economics point of view... in Genesis man is tasked to lord over nature.. then conquer lands and eventually build permanent structures for living & worshipping... offereing animals for sacrifice... evengilization: all these have sort of resulted to the colonization of the East and industrializing the East. what i've observed is that colonized places are the most over-developed & over-industrialized (with exceptions) in the world, and in effect these places' enviroment are destroyed.


    funny stuff


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  • "What, the polar icecaps are melting? Fine ... I shall turn the other cheek!"
    ;)


    it's from all the hellfire and brimstone... all those lost souls burning in hell are a potent source of carbon dioxide
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  • bryanfury wrote:
    why is it destroying the world?

    the extremist factions of the religions in question (jews, muslims, christians) have taken over and are leading the world into chaos.

    i'm sick of hearing Chrisitans hear talk about "those crazy muslims" while their leaders refuse to admit global warming is real.

    and i'm sick of muslim leaders saying the pope should step down (or be killed) for what he said when they preach nothing but hate for other religous groups.

    and I'm sick of the Jews and their "what about me?" attitude when it comes to their oppression of Palestine.

    i've fucking had it!
    Welcome to politics. Now take a side and shuff your beliefs down the other persons throat! :p
  • Religion has led to many negative cosquences, there is no arguement. Although to be fair it has also done a lot of good for the world. For example the majority of social entrepreneurs (entrepreneurs actively putting back into the community and not just money) are motivated by their chosen religion. One of my professors at university who did a great job in this area (and a very successful businessman) was motivated by his jewish faith. I"m of the opinion its a tool that can be used for good or evil, depending on the person involved.
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  • brainofPJ wrote:
    funny stuff
    may i ask why?

    should io explain further? 'cause i think the way i wrote it was kind of meandering because i was in a hurry
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Religions were invented solely for my amusement. What would there be for me to laugh at if there were no men dressed as penguins and women dressed as postboxes walking the earth?
  • People are destroying the world, not religion.
  • Welcome to politics. Now take a side and shuff your beliefs down the other persons throat! :p

    this has nothing to do with "politics". this is religion at its worst. good vs. evil.

    it just depends on what religion you are to which is the good side.
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  • Saturnal wrote:
    People are destroying the world, not religion.

    very clever...

    people are using religion to destroy the world.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    bryanfury wrote:
    very clever...

    people are using religion to destroy the world.
    People use so called technological advances to destroy the world even faster than religion ever did.
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  • why do people who don't believe in religion always talk about it? you don't want anyone preaching religion to you; yet you constantly preach your "non-religion" every chance you get. let people believe what they want.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    bryanfury wrote:
    why is it destroying the world?

    the extremist factions of the religions in question (jews, muslims, christians) have taken over and are leading the world into chaos.

    i'm sick of hearing Chrisitans hear talk about "those crazy muslims" while their leaders refuse to admit global warming is real.

    and i'm sick of muslim leaders saying the pope should step down (or be killed) for what he said when they preach nothing but hate for other religous groups.

    and I'm sick of the Jews and their "what about me?" attitude when it comes to their oppression of Palestine.

    i've fucking had it!

    to think there are sooo many sheep that just follow this BS just boggles the mind...but I'm guessing humans just need to be in a group...in a pack...just like animals.....and depending on where you were hatched determines what pack your in...sooo many sheep....sad sad sad...

    but think about this....we as a civilization are progressing....with TV and the internet..the religeous "deciders" will eventually be seen for what they are...unfortunately not in our lifetime...but soon.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    why do people who don't believe in religion always talk about it? you don't want anyone preaching religion to you; yet you constantly preach your "non-religion" every chance you get. let people believe what they want.

    cause it affects us...loss of tax dollars...freadom of speach....our children forced to listen to prayers...to God Bless you 20 times a day...thousands of real innocents being killed for BS......thats why...and we're just baffled how so many people continue to believe in this shit and use it to justify killing.....called venting.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    surferdude wrote:
    People use so called technological advances to destroy the world even faster than religion ever did.

    the technology isn't killing people...its people wanting controll using technology thats doing it.....and lots in the name of their respective god.

    Remember the NRA slogan....people kill people..guns don't kill people.
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