i'm officially done with walmart

cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
i'm sure everyone has heard this story by now, but, i'll include a link anyway. In the past i've questioned walmart but stopped short of saying i would never shop there. i have finally declared that i will never spend another red cent there. This is some horrible shit. What greedy bastards.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/25/walmart.insurance.battle/index.html?iref=newssearch
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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  • Most insurance plans nowadays have the same clause. The husband of the woman was hoping that Walmart would show some compation. Walmart said that they were showing compation by settling for less than the full amount owed. I have to agree with Walmart. Read the fine print before you sign up with a particular insurance carrier. Walmart is well within their rights. That's what they won in court. A contract is a contract.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Most insurance plans nowadays have the same clause. The husband of the woman was hoping that Walmart would show some compation. Walmart said that they were showing compation by settling for less than the full amount owed. I have to agree with Walmart. Read the fine print before you sign up with a particular insurance carrier. Walmart is well within their rights. That's what they won in court. A contract is a contract.

    Legally, yes, they are within their rights. We're talking about a company that made 300 BILLION last year. Answer me this. WHY should they pursue this now handicapped woman for apx. 275 grand? 275 grand that obviously is nothing to them, but money this woman was counting on to support her and her care for the rest of her life! Her husband has legally divorced her so that she could recieve more medicaid, he works two jobs to pay for her care, is losing his car, is unable to send their son to college. Walmart made 300 BILLION last year alone! They may have te LEGAL RIGHT to sue her for what amounts to a few pennies for them, but they have absolutely no moral or ethical integrity in doing so. They have the legal RIGHT, but not the legal OBLIGATION. This shit is sick. Your defense of them, IMO, is even worse. There is no way to defend this nauseating bullshit.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,417
    Read the fine print before you sign up with a particular insurance carrier.

    But if she doesn't sign the paperwork that has said clause in it, she doesn't get health insurance.
  • But if she doesn't sign the paperwork that has said clause in it, she doesn't get health insurance.

    Pick another insurance company then. Not ALL of them have that clause.
  • cornnifer wrote:
    Legally, yes, they are within their rights. We're talking about a company that made 300 BILLION last year. Answer me this. WHY should they pursue this now handicapped woman for apx. 275 grand? 275 grand that obviously is nothing to them, but money this woman was counting on to support her and her care for the rest of her life! .....

    Because that's what the contract says they can do. She signed a contract and the court said she has to pay it back as per that contract. Sad? Yes. Read before you sign is the lesson here.
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,417
    I doubt that Wal-Mart gave her a choice of insurance company.
  • cornnifer wrote:
    This shit is sick. Your defense of them, IMO, is even worse. There is no way to defend this nauseating bullshit.

    Too bad. Why even have a contract then if you're not going to honor it when the time comes? Let's just treat each person with how we feel that day or with our emotions.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    this is the same deal as with the housing market...

    READ before you sign ANYTHING!

    Wal-Mart is in the right...its a sad scenario, but legally they win and righfully so
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    pjalive21 wrote:
    this is the same deal as with the housing market...

    READ before you sign ANYTHING!

    Wal-Mart is in the right...its a sad scenario, but legally they win and righfully so

    You folks are sick. Morally and etically bankrupt.
    i sincerely hope you are not plowed by a large truck, rendered severely brain damaged, and then fucked by your dispicable employer. i wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even you. i have to say though, if it were to happen, i'd probably laugh my ass off.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • There's a couple of revealing walmart documentaries out now...
    one in particular... http://www.walmartmovie.com/ I'm positive there's a google vid version of it...

    Question: Got enough money yet ya fat greedy f--ks??

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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • But Walmart is working on some of the largest scale "greening" initiatives in the world.

    They are doing things like contracting with Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute to work on fuel use reduction devices for their delivery trucks ... in case you don't know, Wal-Mart has the largest privately owned fleet of big rig trucks in the world.

    And Stone went scuba diving with Walton's son ... that's good enough reason for me to shop there. ;)

    Look.
    Walmart is what it is - an extremely large multi-national corporation that, like ANY corporation cares mostly about one thing: profit. At least they are trying out "environmental"\ "sustainable" initiatives. That counts for something in my book.

    :D
    [hey, i'm just playing devils advocate. seriously]
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • I love shopping at Walmart. No one beats their prices on anything. On a typical visit I save 20-30%. More power to 'em! Keep rollin' back those savings!
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I doubt that Wal-Mart gave her a choice of insurance company.

    That's the thing... she had two shitty choices. 1) Crappy health insurance where her employer at least pays a little bit, or 2) Expensive private insurance (with probably the same clause.

    Gotta love the health care insurance industry/health care situation in this country.... we should be ashamed and outraged of how business can treat us, but of course we aren't.
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  • ADogNamedPilateADogNamedPilate Texas, USA Posts: 291
    I love shopping at Walmart. No one beats their prices on anything. On a typical visit I save 20-30%. More power to 'em! Keep rollin' back those savings!
    Those savings come at the cost of the quality of life of others.

    This is the same as politics so no one is going to win their argument here :/
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I love shopping at Walmart. No one beats their prices on anything. On a typical visit I save 20-30%. More power to 'em! Keep rollin' back those savings!

    20-30% compared to where??? Their prices are not that great, but I can see that their marketing campaign works well.

    I shop there occasionally because of the convenience, but besides the disposable, piss-poor quality store brand stuff, normal things are about the same price just about everywhere. Sometimes more, sometimes less.
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    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
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  • drunkcow wrote:
    Those savings come at the cost of the quality of life of others.

    That shit doesn't bother me. It's all about me. Always has been, always will be.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    That shit doesn't bother me. It's all about me. Always has been, always will be.

    I always hope people like you come across a serious situation in your life where you really need help with something, and nobody bothers to even look in your direction...
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • I always hope people like you come across a serious situation in your life where you really need help with something, and nobody bothers to even look in your direction...

    yeah. thats good karma right there, BRY.
    :cool:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • 20-30% compared to where??? Their prices are not that great,

    Compared to just about anywhere I've shopped.

    Here's a couple of examples.

    Deodorant that I use - $4.99 elsewhere; $3.42 Walmart - 31.46% savings
    The coffee that I use - $8.49 elsewhere; $6.42 Walmart - 24.38% savings

    That's only a couple that I can think of off the top of my head, but most of the time other items are about the same savings. Next time I'll remember to save my receipt.
  • I always hope people like you come across a serious situation in your life where you really need help with something, and nobody bothers to even look in your direction...

    See, to me that would be perfect. I don't want any help from people. Once people help you they act as if you owe them something. Fuck that. I'd rather just lay down and die.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Sad story.

    Still won't keep me from shopping there, but more power to you.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Compared to just about anywhere I've shopped.

    Here's a couple of examples.

    Deodorant that I use - $4.99 elsewhere; $3.42 Walmart - 31.46% savings
    The coffee that I use - $8.49 elsewhere; $6.42 Walmart - 24.38% savings

    That's only a couple that I can think of off the top of my head, but most of the time other items are about the same savings. Next time I'll remember to save my receipt.

    I've got a Wal-Mart and another chain grocery store in my neighborhood. After buying groceries at the grocery store for a few months, I switched to Wal-Mart. Saved about $50 a month.

    In this economy, that adds up.

    Sorry about this poor woman's medical bills, but what do you want from me?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    That shit doesn't bother me. It's all about me. Always has been, always will be.

    Wow. Human garbage. Flush.
  • problem solved.
    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    would you please correct the grammar in your signature?

    that "to"\"too" is really bothering me.
    k?
    thx
    :D

    Thanks for pointing that out. What is really sad is I copied and pasted it from a bumper sticker website. Must be hundreds of them driving around the country like that...lol!
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    cornnifer wrote:
    You folks are sick. Morally and etically bankrupt.
    i sincerely hope you are not plowed by a large truck, rendered severely brain damaged, and then fucked by your dispicable employer. i wouldn't wish that on anyone. Even you. i have to say though, if it were to happen, i'd probably laugh my ass off.

    seriously get a life....

    im not backing wal mart in this but the law is the law, what are you going to do about it?

    ok boycott wal mart...the 30 bucks you spend there isnt going to break them

    just like people that want to boycott gas stations but fill up there everyday so they can drive their cars

    good luck with that boycott

    everyone knows wal mart sucks
  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    But Walmart is working on some of the largest scale "greening" initiatives in the world.

    They are doing things like contracting with Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute to work on fuel use reduction devices for their delivery trucks ... in case you don't know, Wal-Mart has the largest privately owned fleet of big rig trucks in the world.

    And Stone went scuba diving with Walton's son ... that's good enough reason for me to shop there. ;)

    Look.
    Walmart is what it is - an extremely large multi-national corporation that, like ANY corporation cares mostly about one thing: profit. At least they are trying out "environmental"\ "sustainable" initiatives. That counts for something in my book.

    :D
    [hey, i'm just playing devils advocate. seriously]

    Wal-Mart is such a mixed bag. Or a chef's salad of good and bad. I swear. Although I'm not the biggest fan of Wal-Mart, I'll admit that I've been participating in a program that involves them for the past few months. It's a plastic bag recycling program at my kids' school. For every large plastic bag entirely filled with plastic bags, Wal-Mart gives the school $5. It's been a good, easy way to raise money for the school, and it's been good for the environment. But, for every really good thing that Wal-Mart does, you can name an equally bad thing. I'm not sure what to think about Wal-Mart overall, except to think that a corporation has status as an individual. And, it's just like an individual...an individual with a split personality or with multiple personalities where about half are sweetness and light and half are devils straight from hell.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,380
    just curious why aren't more people disgusted by this clause in the insurance policy?


    "The Shanks didn't notice in the fine print of Wal-Mart's health plan policy that the company has the right to recoup medical expenses if an employee collects damages in a lawsuit."



    why is that clause even included on the health plan?
  • just curious why aren't more people disgusted by this clause in the insurance policy?


    "The Shanks didn't notice in the fine print of Wal-Mart's health plan policy that the company has the right to recoup medical expenses if an employee collects damages in a lawsuit."



    why is that clause even included on the health plan?

    Because it was in the contract. Ergo, someone signed and agreed to it.

    The other reason is, for me at least, because if it truly is completely abnormal and lacking in legitimacy, case law allows the offended party to claim unconscionability and the court will strike the contract as invalid.

    So in theory, if this is truly unconscionable (as you seem to suggest), and the defense can prove it so, then the lady will not be forced to remit repayment to Walmart.

    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
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