Church of Satan
Jeremy1012
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don't get me wrong, I'm no satanist (I'm a dirty godless scumbag 
) but I read up a bit on Anton LaVey's Church of Satan out of curiosity and the guy seemed to have a lot of good points, was by no means evil from what I can tell and didn't seem immoral. he viewed satan as an idea, not an entity and said that satanism was the practice of setting yourself free. I was wondering how people perceive this religion? is it considered a lunatic cult as most pagan religions are (because all the major religions seem to have an elitist contempt for all others)?
) but I read up a bit on Anton LaVey's Church of Satan out of curiosity and the guy seemed to have a lot of good points, was by no means evil from what I can tell and didn't seem immoral. he viewed satan as an idea, not an entity and said that satanism was the practice of setting yourself free. I was wondering how people perceive this religion? is it considered a lunatic cult as most pagan religions are (because all the major religions seem to have an elitist contempt for all others)? "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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Perhaps Satan isn't the bad guy. Maybe God is the bad guy. I know it sounds strange. But think about it, Satan doesn't require anyone to commit themselves to any particular way of life. Satan has no requirements, he will accept anyone into his home. God has all these rules, and.. if you don't follow them you spent eternity in agonizing pain, supposedly. They say Satan is the master of deception and trickery. Could it not be that the Bible is a work of Satan, trying to convince people that he is in-fact God.
Something to think about. I mean, there is really no way of knowing with absolute certainty if the Bible is the inspired word of God or the inspired word of Satan, because the Bible is the only basis for the entire belief system.
Personally, I don't believe any of it. I'm a godless bastard too.
its better to reign in hell then serve in heaven
We will see at the time of judgement. If it comes down to getting a sticker in the name of Satan or decapitated in the name of God. I think I'll take the sticker.
I read some of that book once, a few years ago. I gave it to a charity shop without reading all of it, and I wish I hadn't. Anyway, I think maybe the reason the "moral majority" are afraid of Levey and his ilk is because he advocates operating outside the norms of social expectations. For example, in the rules for satanism, I remember some of it didn't seem too satanic. My favourite one was the one where it said when someone comes to your lair invited, treat them well because they are the guest, but if they are uninvited, treat them mercilessly! lol. Something like that anyway.
It also said never hurt children or animals, so they can't all be bad!
At the back there was also some stuff about how to turn yourself into a werewolf. Did you ever try it?
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They have plenty of rules.
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by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1987
1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness—Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism—Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit—It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity—That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of Perspective—Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies—Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride—That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics—This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
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Nahh.. Don't be so hard on yourself. Being a non-Christian isn't so bad. I'd have just left it at bastard and been happy.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
by Anton Szandor LaVey ©1967
1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
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I don't remember that being in the Bible. Is this transcribed from the Necronomicon?
The Church of Satan Informational Pack
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I just saw The Prestige last night. awesome movie!!!!
That's so wack it makes me laugh. HAHAHAHA
It may or may not work, right... so like if the person was going to do that anyway then I guess it worked and if not, there was just too much inertia from their own will.
There is a reason why these "secret" teachings are often shrouded in mystery and ritual. The masses do not accept these universal principles. And beyond accepting them, shun those who entertain their effectiveness. Oh well.
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sounds like not magic to me.
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nothing secret about this. it's leadership 101... confidence, ambition, and vision. there's nothing magical about it. some people build it via ritual, others simply have it, and others work for it.
That's not magic. I believe it's called Norepinephrine
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Yea ok, but thoughts to me are a product of smaller events, both chemical and quantum.
I'm all for it on a political level, but as for the actual way people work, I'm dead against it.
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Are you referring to the kind of "zone" that Jerry Rice was in during the 1989 Superbowl vs. Cincinatti?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
In the end, I use my own personal philosophies, picking and choosing what works for me, rather than follow any one school of thought. It looks like those towards the top of the hierarchy of the Satanic church may be liberated, and yet, the average follower is just that....a follower....abiding by rules passed down. The idea of the anti-religion that includes liberation IS a good selling point, though.
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That made me laugh! Thanks.
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