New Rolling Stone: Ed's idol is a hawk?

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

actually "fuck em" was meant to be towards the fans that dont agree with his political views

methinks you have no sense of humor. do you not have any friends who think differently from you at all? do you not give each other a little shit for it? cos that's what ed was doing. if he hurt your fragile feelings... well, it's probably the liberals' fault for making you a panzy with their PC education.

jlew24asu

soulsinging wrote:

methinks you have no sense of humor. do you not have any friends who think differently from you at all? do you not give each other a little shit for it? cos that's what ed was doing. if he hurt your fragile feelings... well, it's probably the liberals' fault for making you a panzy with their PC education.

I was offended at all. I could care less what his political views are. not sure how it was a joke though. he didnt laugh and quickly followed it up by saying, i can see where they're coming from though, after a awkward silence. no smile, no giggles. he sure did look serious.

LikeAnOcean

jlew24asu wrote:

I was offended at all. I could care less what his political views are. not sure how it was a joke though. he didnt laugh and quickly followed it up by saying, i can see where they're coming from though, after a awkward silence. no smile, no giggles. he sure did look serious.

I'm pretty sure he smiled.

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

I was offended at all. I could care less what his political views are. not sure how it was a joke though. he didnt laugh and quickly followed it up by saying, i can see where they're coming from though, after a awkward silence. no smile, no giggles. he sure did look serious.

if you havent noticed over the past 16 years of pearl jam that ed has one of the driest and most deadpan senses of humor out there, you're not paying attention. he no doubt added the second part becos he knew there would be people like you sitting out there waiting for any excuse to tear him a new one for his liberal views.

Abookamongstthemany

LikeAnOcean wrote:

How is Insignificance liberalism? It was written when Clinton was bombing Bosnia. Down is about fighting addiction. Anyone can have a drug problem. Unemployable is about someone loosing their job and loosing hope.. ALL of those songs could be translated by either side, with the exception of maybe Porch. Even when the lyrics of Bushleaguer are broken down, there's nothing in their that supports, abortion, gun control, ec. It's a song about political corruption.

Conservatives are usually pro-war. Clinton was far from a leftist. Down is not about just about fighting addiction, he quotes Howard Zinn in it for christ's sake. Unemployable..."So this life is sacrifice to a stranger's bottom line" Capitalism usually mixes well with conservatism...which leads in nicely to songs like Bushleaguer. Things lefties are against and conservatives seem to overlook or don't see as all bad.

LikeAnOcean

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Conservatives are usually pro-war. Clinton was far from a leftist. Down is not about just about fighting addiction, he quotes Howard Zinn in it for christ's sake. Unemployable..."So this life is sacrifice to a stranger's bottom line" Capitalism usually mixes well with conservatism...which leads in nicely to songs like Bushleaguer. Things lefties are against and conservatives seem to overlook or don't see as all bad.

See, thats your interpretation though. You're using generalizations like "conservatives are usually pro-war" and a quote from someone who is leftest, but doesn't necisarily say anything about their views in that particalar quote (I'm referring to the "you can't be neutral on a moving train").. Now I well know Pearl Jam's interpretations of their own songs and their liberal leanings, but others can easily grasp onto the lyrics and form their own personal interpretations.

For instance, I've always interpreted Porch as a break-up song..

What the fuck is this world
Running to? You didn't
Leave a message
At least I could have
Learned your voice one last time.
Daily minefield
This could be my time
How 'bout you?
Would you hit me?
Would you hit me?

All the bills go by
And initiatives are taken up
By the middle
There ain't gonna be any middle any more
And the cross I'm bearing home
Ain't indicative of my place
Left the porch
Left the porch

Hear my name
Take a good look
This could be the day
Hold my hand
Walk beside me
I just need to say...

Hear my name
Take a good look
This could be the day
Hold my hand
Lie beside me
I just need to say
What can I take?
I just want to be
I know that i would not ever touch you
Hold you
Feel you
Ever hold
Never again


Now I know what Eddie's said and protested from shows during the song, but none of those lyrics tell me a story of someone choosing to kill an unborn child.. I am pro-choice by the way.

Do you get what I'm trying to say?

hippiemom

PaperPlates wrote:

I personally was never "done with pearl jam", as much as done idolizing ed. I went from a guy who loved pearl jam because of Ed, to one who loves pearl jam despite ed. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Ed can go fuck himself, and his model wife, and his imaginary ideals, and his hypocrisy.

Go cry about the worlds problems to your model wife, in your suv, while flying in your jet, and tell me all about how YOU know how to fix the world. Right ed. And you idjuts lap it up much like the dittoheads do. You're just a different kind of ditto head, and all those sheep are pathetic. On both sides. So how many here are now "done with townsend" for his pro bush statements? How many of you only even fucking know who pete is because ED told you he was cool? Seriously, its so pathetic its amusing.

Oh for crying out loud, not this again. I've been listening to the Who since I was nine years old, at which time Ed was, I believe, seven. I voted for Nader in 1996, which was four years before I ever heard Ed mention his name. Why do you assume that we got our political ideas from Ed, and not that we feel some affinity for Ed because he shares the ideas that we already had?

Rushlimbo

jlew24asu wrote:

heres a gem of a post. I was at a concert where ed was almost in tears becuase he was trying to explain that townshend was doing research to stop child porn when he was arrested for possesion of it. label all republicans pedophiles. people around here have the maturity of 7 year olds

Goodness, someone needs to unwind a little. Foley was doing some research as well I hear.

rarghrargh-brownstar

his gf is 30.

just had to throw that in.

Rushlimbo

rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:

his gf is 30.

just had to throw that in.

He obviously likes em young.

catefrances

metsfan531941 wrote:

they all do it,hell i wouldnt be surprised to see pj do it in bout 20 years.

hell. i'd be surprised just to see pearl jam still around in 20 years.

69charger

PaperPlates wrote:

I personally was never "done with pearl jam", as much as done idolizing ed. I went from a guy who loved pearl jam because of Ed, to one who loves pearl jam despite ed. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Ed can go fuck himself, and his model wife, and his imaginary ideals, and his hypocrisy.

Go cry about the worlds problems to your model wife, in your suv, while flying in your jet, and tell me all about how YOU know how to fix the world. Right ed. And you idjuts lap it up much like the dittoheads do. You're just a different kind of ditto head, and all those sheep are pathetic. On both sides. So how many here are now "done with townsend" for his pro bush statements? How many of you only even fucking know who pete is because ED told you he was cool? Seriously, its so pathetic its amusing.

Ditto. <-- No pun intended.

PaperPlates

soulsinging wrote:

oh, you mean you used an angry provocative rant that you didnt really mean to make a point? isnt that what robbie did in the other thread that you claimed was so horribly and without class and offensive?

id like you to show me a quote where ed passes judgment on anyone for their political views. the only thing you can even try to stretch is when he said "fuck em" in response to people who bitch about his politics.

One would hope you can see the clear difference between the "rants". But since your brains are only capable of liberal biased thoughts, you probably dont.

PaperPlates

LikeAnOcean wrote:

I'm pretty sure he smiled.

I believe us stupid americans call that "smile" a smirk.

FinsburyParkCarrots

This is a non-issue. Townshend's been a bit of a berk, from day one, but he makes good music. or rather, used to.

catefrances

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

This is a non-issue. Townshend's been a bit of a berk, from day one, but he makes good music. or rather, used to.

a bit of a berk fins? sometimes the guy's a right tosser. if it wasn't for the fact that i love to belt out pinball wizard, i'd pay him no mind at all. but then again who cares. it's not like we have to live with the man. it's the music that counts.

FinsburyParkCarrots

catefrances wrote:

a bit of a berk fins? sometimes the guy's a right tosser. if it wasn't for the fact that i love to belt out pinball wizard, i'd pay him no mind at all. but then again who cares. it's not like we have to live with the man. it's the music that counts.

Yep.

RainDog

As someone that doesn't listen to the Who, does this mean I'm gonna haveta really not listen to them? Like super hardcore not listen to them? Maybe I should listen to their songs backwards in an effort to erase the times I heard them on the radio.

I guess now I'm also gonna haveta really not watch CSI, too. Not watching isn't enough - that's too easy. Really not watch, though.....

RainDog

PaperPlates wrote:

I believe us stupid americans call that "smile" a smirk.

The difference? It's not like he was smirking about the deaths he's caused.

UKDave

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

leavin here

Leavin here?? leavin here.....!!??

It's a cover!! and guess what The Who covered it first!!!!

All rock stars talk contradictory bollocks... end of...