New Rolling Stone: Ed's idol is a hawk?

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Plenty around here have questioned the reason/ability for someone of conservative leanings being able to enjoy PJ's music. Of which there are MAYBE 5 songs that "reek of liberalism". Do YOU see the idiocy of that?


    There are plenty of PJ songs which lean to the left...some are up for interpretation others kinda hard to miss. Not to mention the hard to miss politicial leanings of Ed, which did infact DID have many of you saying you were done with PJ after Ed's 'fuck em' statement.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    A few years ago, Townsend was asked about Michael Moore using " Won't get fooled again " in Farenheit 9/11. Do not quote me on this, but I believe Moore was granted permission, but wasn't completely honest about what the film was about and Townsend was irked by that. It was then, that Townsend admitted he was behind the removal of Sadamm Hussein by Bush
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    Untill their will grows tired
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    I'm not sure where this is going...

    first, how is someone saying Bush is not a 'bad man" make them a 'hawk'

    how does someone saying Bush is not a 'bad man' immediately make them some sort of radical right wing reactionary? Seriously, think about it.

    This type of thing is really getting old to me.

    Maybe it was this other quote I posted:

    "Peace is something that has to be made. It doesn't come from passivity."

    His leadup to this quote was much, much more hawkish. I don't believe his comments were taken out of context. They were pretty clear. But because he says Bush isn't a bad man, doesn't mean he agrees with him about everything. I just posted this because I found it interesting one of Ed's idols made these statements.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    There are plenty of PJ songs which lean to the left...some are up for interpretation others kinda hard to miss. Not to mention the hard to miss politicial leanings of Ed, which did infact DID have many of you saying you were done with PJ after Ed's 'fuck em' statement.


    I personally was never "done with pearl jam", as much as done idolizing ed. I went from a guy who loved pearl jam because of Ed, to one who loves pearl jam despite ed. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Ed can go fuck himself, and his model wife, and his imaginary ideals, and his hypocrisy.

    Go cry about the worlds problems to your model wife, in your suv, while flying in your jet, and tell me all about how YOU know how to fix the world. Right ed. And you idjuts lap it up much like the dittoheads do. You're just a different kind of ditto head, and all those sheep are pathetic. On both sides. So how many here are now "done with townsend" for his pro bush statements? How many of you only even fucking know who pete is because ED told you he was cool? Seriously, its so pathetic its amusing.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    A few years ago, Townsend was asked about Michael Moore using " Won't get fooled again " in Farenheit 9/11. Do not quote me on this, but I believe Moore was granted permission, but wasn't completely honest about what the film was about and Townsend was irked by that. It was then, that Townsend admitted he was behind the removal of Sadamm Hussein by Bush

    He talked about this in the current interview.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I personally was never "done with pearl jam", as much as done idolizing ed. I went from a guy who loved pearl jam because of Ed, to one who loves pearl jam despite ed. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Ed can go fuck himself, and his model wife, and his imaginary ideals, and his hypocrisy.

    Go cry about the worlds problems to your model wife, in your suv, while flying in your jet, and tell me all about how YOU know how to fix the world. Right ed. And you idjuts lap it up much like the dittoheads do. You're just a different kind of ditto head, and all those sheep are pathetic. On both sides. So how many here are now "done with townsend" for his pro bush statements? How many of you only even fucking know who pete is because ED told you he was cool? Seriously, its so pathetic its amusing.

    oh god, here we go...

    Dude, I know of their music but I don't even listen to the Who.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Of which there are MAYBE 5 songs that "reek of liberalism".


    porch
    solat
    rats
    glorified g
    wma
    whipping
    faithfull
    brain of j
    dte
    god's dice
    evacuation
    insignficance
    grievance
    cropduster
    green disease
    help help
    1/2 full
    bushleaguer
    wws
    comatose
    marker in the sand
    unemployable
    army reserve
    down
    education
    whale song
    undone
    leavin here
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    oh god, here we go...

    Dude, I know of their music but I don't even listen to the Who.

    You are only one person. Congradulations on your very obvious individuality. You should listen to some Who. Some great music our pal Pete and Roger made. Despite the limitations on creativity that are rampant in the conservative community. :p
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Of course Townshend likes the Republicans -- wasnt he arrested and investigated for child porn a couple of years ago?! GOP = Grand Ole Pedophiles.......


    heres a gem of a post. I was at a concert where ed was almost in tears becuase he was trying to explain that townshend was doing research to stop child porn when he was arrested for possesion of it. label all republicans pedophiles. people around here have the maturity of 7 year olds
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    jlew24asu wrote:
    heres a gem of a post. I was at a concert where ed was almost in tears becuase he was trying to explain that townshend was doing research to stop child porn when he was arrested for possesion of it. label all republicans pedophiles. people around here have the maturity of 7 year olds

    Correction. They have the maturity of a liberal. Don't insult 7 year olds please.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Correction. They have the maturity of a liberal. Don't insult 7 year olds please.


    I stand corrected
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I personally was never "done with pearl jam", as much as done idolizing ed. I went from a guy who loved pearl jam because of Ed, to one who loves pearl jam despite ed. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Ed can go fuck himself, and his model wife, and his imaginary ideals, and his hypocrisy.

    Go cry about the worlds problems to your model wife, in your suv, while flying in your jet, and tell me all about how YOU know how to fix the world. Right ed. And you idjuts lap it up much like the dittoheads do. You're just a different kind of ditto head, and all those sheep are pathetic. On both sides. So how many here are now "done with townsend" for his pro bush statements? How many of you only even fucking know who pete is because ED told you he was cool? Seriously, its so pathetic its amusing.

    this si the guy labelling all liberals as more immature than 7 year olds becos his feelings were hurt by a dumb GOP joke? pot, meet the kettle.

    i drifted from the who when they started selling their songs to anyone and everyone. i was never all that into them. no, i didnt know who they were until pearl jam, they were broken up before i was born. ditto for neil young. and many others.

    the fact that ed is wealthy does not automatically invalidate his political views. fi that were the case, NOBODY currently in washington dc has a valid political opinion becos they're all richer than hell. so how can any of them have any clue what a good policy would be? it's so arbitrary.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    porch
    solat
    rats
    glorified g
    wma
    whipping
    faithfull
    brain of j
    dte
    god's dice
    evacuation
    insignficance
    grievance
    cropduster
    green disease
    help help
    1/2 full
    bushleaguer
    wws
    comatose
    marker in the sand
    unemployable
    army reserve
    down
    education
    whale song
    undone
    leavin here
    How is Insignificance liberalism? It was written when Clinton was bombing Bosnia. Down is about fighting addiction. Anyone can have a drug problem. Unemployable is about someone loosing their job and loosing hope.. ALL of those songs could be translated by either side, with the exception of maybe Porch. Even when the lyrics of Bushleaguer are broken down, there's nothing in their that supports, abortion, gun control, ec. It's a song about political corruption.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    soulsinging wrote:
    this si the guy labelling all liberals as more immature than 7 year olds becos his feelings were hurt by a dumb GOP joke? pot, meet the kettle.

    i drifted from the who when they started selling their songs to anyone and everyone. i was never all that into them. no, i didnt know who they were until pearl jam, they were broken up before i was born. ditto for neil young. and many others.

    the fact that ed is wealthy does not automatically invalidate his political views. fi that were the case, NOBODY currently in washington dc has a valid political opinion becos they're all richer than hell. so how can any of them have any clue what a good policy would be? it's so arbitrary.

    There's a difference between having political views, and being judgemental. Ed does both. And all the while, lives in the lap of luxury, uses more fuel annually than any average american, etc. And the above rant you quoted was more to make a point than to voice my true feelings. Thanks taking the time to reply tho.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PaperPlates wrote:
    There's a difference between having political views, and being judgemental. Ed does both. And all the while, lives in the lap of luxury, uses more fuel annually than any average american, etc. And the above rant you quoted was more to make a point than to voice my true feelings. Thanks taking the time to reply tho.

    oh, you mean you used an angry provocative rant that you didnt really mean to make a point? isnt that what robbie did in the other thread that you claimed was so horribly and without class and offensive?

    id like you to show me a quote where ed passes judgment on anyone for their political views. the only thing you can even try to stretch is when he said "fuck em" in response to people who bitch about his politics.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    PaperPlates wrote:
    There's a difference between having political views, and being judgemental. Ed does both. And all the while, lives in the lap of luxury, uses more fuel annually than any average american, etc. And the above rant you quoted was more to make a point than to voice my true feelings. Thanks taking the time to reply tho.
    I heard Ed and the boys are going to start taking the train next tour.. Happy? :rolleyes:
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    porch
    solat
    rats
    glorified g
    wma
    whipping
    faithfull
    brain of j
    dte
    god's dice
    evacuation
    insignficance
    grievance
    cropduster
    green disease
    help help
    1/2 full
    bushleaguer
    wws
    comatose
    marker in the sand
    unemployable
    army reserve
    down
    education
    whale song
    undone
    leavin here

    Social awareness does not equal liberalism. I am a conservative through and through, and I love most of those songs. Aside from spoken word bullshit and tiresome acoustics, I love most of the songs in their collection. None of those songs are songs that should only appeal to liberals. Aside from bushleaguer. (A song that even if you ignore the lyrics, is one of the worst pJ songs ever.)Do I need to remind you that very few conservatives totally approve of Bush? We simply know he's doing a much better job than anyone offered up from any other party could have ever done.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    soulsinging wrote:
    the only thing you can even try to stretch is when he said "fuck em" in response to people who bitch about his politics.


    actually "fuck em" was meant to be towards the fans that dont agree with his political views
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    jlew24asu wrote:
    actually "fuck em" was meant to be towards the fans that dont agree with his political views


    Ed's one of those open minded liberals Im always hearing about. Much like here, that type of liberal is often discussed, but rarely sighted.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    jlew24asu wrote:
    actually "fuck em" was meant to be towards the fans that dont agree with his political views
    He was joking. Couldn't you pick up the sarcasm? I don't get why people got offended.

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