Graphics on cigarette packs?

Heineken Helen

Strangest Tribe wrote:

I think it's cool.
COLLECTOR PACKS !!!!

Collect the entire series kiddies!!!
Trade 'em with your mates!!!!

but probably true... actually just to fucking piss off the people who did this... I'm gonna MAKE that a game!

Sweet Emotion

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That's good, cuz I can only begin to imagine what they would put on condom packs!

Maybe Jesus getting banged in the ass...

Austicman

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I think it is aimed at the 12-14 year old dumbasses who really do have no idea what smoking actually does to you but want to start because it looks cool. Sure they know that it can kill you, but not until you are old. I remember when I used to work with kids, and there were little kid smokers who were around the age I mentioned who thought that if you smoked that you would be fine until you are old.

Well make sure the law is upheld and they don't get sold to them. Same with alcohol. Fine the store's, and anyone who supplies them. Parents whoever. Kids get into stuff like smokes cause they are bad for you. Thats the attraction. Society tells them no, so they have to try it.

Kel Varnsen

Austicman wrote:

Well make sure the law is upheld and they don't get sold to them. Same with alcohol. Fine the store's, and anyone who supplies them. Parents whoever. Kids get into stuff like smokes cause they are bad for you. Thats the attraction. Society tells them no, so they have to try it.

I think it is true for a lot of kids the fact that it is taboo is the attraction. But I also think there are quite a few, who the only message they hear, is "don't smoke, it will kill you" which they think means "don't smoke or it will kill you when you are 60".

I agree there should be enforcement but why does it have to be that or warning lables, what is wrong with having both? Seriously what is the harm in having the labels there?

Austicman

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I think it is true for a lot of kids the fact that it is taboo is the attraction. But I also think there are quite a few, who the only message they hear, is "don't smoke, it will kill you" which they think means "don't smoke or it will kill you when you are 60".

I agree there should be enforcement but why does it have to be that or warning lables, what is wrong with having both? Seriously what is the harm in having the labels there?

I'm a smoker and I've got no problem with the photo's on the packs. In Australia their plastered all over the packs plus they have very graphic ads on the TV constantly. I know I've become desensitised to them all now and so will kids.
We've had alot of graphic ads for speeding and its consequences over here. But we have one that shows the guy showing off for the girl spinning his wheels up and fishtailing down the road. They cut back to the girl and she's waving her little pinky in the air "little dick" style and thats the one that people remember and young fools stop and think about.

We need these people to think about what would make cigerettes a lame thing to do in a young persons mind.

Kel Varnsen

Austicman wrote:

e've had alot of graphic ads for speeding and its consequences over here. But we have one that shows the guy showing off for the girl spinning his wheels up and fishtailing down the road. They cut back to the girl and she's waving her little pinky in the air "little dick" style and thats the one that people remember and young fools stop and think about.

We need these people to think about what would make cigerettes a lame thing to do in a young persons mind.

That's kind of funny. In Canada one of the smoking pack lables, notes that smoking can cause impotency.

Austicman

Kel Varnsen wrote:

That's kind of funny. In Canada one of the smoking pack lables, notes that smoking can cause impotency.

Well that would work a whole lot better.

maybe explain to them that their addiction to tobacco will eventually lead them to hurling things around the house when they they've run out and their are no shops open

I was at my local shop last week and I seen a guy picking out butts from the bins along the sidewalk. Maybe showing something like that might change their minds.

Heineken Helen

Kel Varnsen wrote:

I think it is true for a lot of kids the fact that it is taboo is the attraction. But I also think there are quite a few, who the only message they hear, is "don't smoke, it will kill you" which they think means "don't smoke or it will kill you when you are 60".

I agree there should be enforcement but why does it have to be that or warning lables, what is wrong with having both? Seriously what is the harm in having the labels there?

the ones I bought yesterday have a picture of a dead person on them :eek: HOW the fuck can they justify that? What a load of bollox... I'm gonna swap it for a lung

And exactly... make it so that they're not cool... cos they certainly were when I was growing up... and, considering the amount of kids I still see smoking, I'm guessing they still are.

even flow?

Heineken Helen wrote:

When are we going to put pictures of livers on pint glasses? Or pictures of hearts on McDonalds boxes? What a huge pile of crap... who the fuck came up with that shite?

And for the record, they have them here and they're easily ignored since they're on the back of the pack I just don't get the idea to be honest.

If you are still purchasing them then the pics sure aren't working!

harmless_little_f***

I bought a pack with a dead guy on it this morning.. It was kind of cool, like an X Files trading card.

Anyway... I think the huge irony here is that they're warning us against the dangers of smoking quite forcefully, yet they'll never make smoking illegal because tobacco is one of the largest industries in the world.

There's just so much money in smoking that the corporations will never put their money where their mouth is. If they made smoking illegal I'd have no problem with it... it'd be better for everyone. But they won't. They'll preach and preach and use ugly pictures whilst simultaneously enjoying the benefits of our habits.

dunkman

Jeremy1012 wrote:

It's pretty dumb. Does anyone still exist unaware of the dangers of smoking? They are choosing to harm themselves, which is their decision. They should be allowed to do it without looking at rotting organs. They have enough to worry about, what with their own rotting organs etc...

Also as Helen says, there's no pictures of dying livers and bust pancreases on beer bottles etc and I'm in MUCH more danger of dying from alcohol intake than cigarettes, since I drink a lot more than I smoke. Why is no one watching MY back? :(

if they choose to do it then then taxpayers like me shouldnt have to pay for them when they go to the hospital with aforementioned fucked up lungs... they choose to smoke.. so they choose not to receive medical help.

now if somone elects me, i'll do this


i also plan to make it illegal to tip someone for doing their job, illegal to own a dog and i plan to abolish all buses... i also will allow televised screenings of rapists being anvilled in the face

dunkman

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I bought a pack with a dead guy on it this morning.. It was kind of cool, like an X Files trading card.

Anyway... I think the huge irony here is that they're warning us against the dangers of smoking quite forcefully, yet they'll never make smoking illegal because tobacco is one of the largest industries in the world.

There's just so much money in smoking that the corporations will never put their money where their mouth is. If they made smoking illegal I'd have no problem with it... it'd be better for everyone. But they won't. They'll preach and preach and use ugly pictures whilst simultaneously enjoying the benefits of our habits.

cant win... "ohhh lets legalise cannabis and regulate it"... "lets make smoking illegal so they dont have to stick bad pictures of men with no throats on the packet"... make up your minds.

if you all know smoking harms your insides then dont come crying to me when you get ill from it... i know eating 40 cream cakes a day will fucking kill me... so i dont do it...

and the whole smoking is an addiction thing is fucking pointless so dont go there... if you're all so smart and dont need the pictures then you wont need to be told it was addictive either... you all knew it was addictive... so when you get ill... whats your fucking paltry excuse then? ohhhh the government never told me i'd get ill.

i've lost 3 of my 4 grandparents to smoking... my papa is the only one alive... hmmmmm he never smoked once.... weird?!?!

Heineken Helen

even flow? wrote:

If you are still purchasing them then the pics sure aren't working!

well the ones i got today have a picture of a syringe on them... how does that compare to a pic of a dead person?

Austicman

dunkman wrote:

if they choose to do it then then taxpayers like me shouldnt have to pay for them when they go to the hospital with aforementioned fucked up lungs... they choose to smoke.. so they choose not to receive medical help.

now if somone elects me, i'll do this


i also plan to make it illegal to tip someone for doing their job, illegal to own a dog and i plan to abolish all buses... i also will allow televised screenings of rapists being anvilled in the face

I don't know about America but in Australia the taxes collected from smoking triple the annual health bill. Thats the whole countries bill, smokers and non-smokers. Then you want them to pay for medical treatment as well. Alot people seem to forget how much smokers pay in taxes. Maybe you should find out how much of those taxes are spent on health and see how much is wasted on crap.

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

if they choose to do it then then taxpayers like me shouldnt have to pay for them when they go to the hospital with aforementioned fucked up lungs... they choose to smoke.. so they choose not to receive medical help.

now if somone elects me, i'll do this :n) : )


i also plan to make it illegal to tip someone for doing their job, illegal to own a dog and i plan to abolish all buses... i also will allow televised screenings of rapists being anvilled in the face

with the taxes on cigarettes (at home possibly 6euro a pack) I've MORE than paid for my hospital bed... in fact I'm probably funding your kids going to school by now but you won't hear me complaining about that

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

i've lost 3 of my 4 grandparents to smoking... my papa is the only one alive... hmmmmm he never smoked once.... weird?!?!

you're what? 40????

How long did you think your grandparents would live???????????? whether they smoke or not??????

jamie uk

Heineken Helen wrote:

you're what? 40????
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..nah, he's at least 43

TrixieCat

dunkman wrote:

cant win... "ohhh lets legalise cannabis and regulate it"... "lets make smoking illegal so they dont have to stick bad pictures of men with no throats on the packet"... make up your minds.

if you all know smoking harms your insides then dont come crying to me when you get ill from it... i know eating 40 cream cakes a day will fucking kill me... so i dont do it...

and the whole smoking is an addiction thing is fucking pointless so dont go there... if you're all so smart and dont need the pictures then you wont need to be told it was addictive either... you all knew it was addictive... so when you get ill... whats your fucking paltry excuse then? ohhhh the government never told me i'd get ill.

i've lost 3 of my 4 grandparents to smoking... my papa is the only one alive... hmmmmm he never smoked once.... weird?!?!

Somebody stop my fingers...I agree with Dunk.

I try not to enter these smoking threads as the last time I did, someone tried to hand my ass to me. It didn't work tho. lol
In all seriousness, I totally agree with what you are saying.

jamie uk

smoking is rubbish, it stinks and it is expensive and it kills you....get over it already.
Just stop smoking those damn things.

Okay, everyne sorted now?
Good. I'm off to bed

failedpersephone

I don't think the graphics will make much of a difference so, i suppose it's a stupid concept...

Smokers will not be deterred by a picture of black lungs or other such nonsense. many things should be adult decisions - we know the problems with smoking, drinking etc., and if we choose to continue, then let us do it in peace. and tax the shit out of us, use it to pave roads, whatever - not on bullshit warning commercials and crap...waste of money on non-issues. seriously, is there any one left on EARTH that doesn't know that if you put a stick of fire in your mouth and inhale you may be causing damage to your lungs??

it's like the whole "hot coffee" warning. ugh. what next? telling me I shouldn't shove my heated curling iron up my snatch???? "Oh wow, didn't think it would burn!!" GRRR!


oh, one other sort of related thing...with smoking there is the added bonus of second hand issues...but even that - it seems as if there shouldn't be anyone left that thinks the smoke you exhale wont waft over to the crib...