Mcain Supporter Attacked and Mutilated!

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,106
    Smellyman wrote:
    This seems so obvioulsly faked. A psycho woman looking for attention.

    ATM'S have video cameras. Should know soon enough.

    I'm not surprised at all. The left is so full of hate and despises conservatives, that it would look at a beaten woman and say she is a liar. Disgusting.
  • I'm not surprised at all. The left is so full of hate and despises conservatives, that it would look at a beaten woman and say she is a liar. Disgusting.
    So explain this, which was posted earlier: http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/why-that-mccain-volunteers-mutilation-story-smells-awfully-weird/
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  • I'm not surprised at all. The left is so full of hate and despises conservatives, that it would look at a beaten woman and say she is a liar. Disgusting.

    and the right is so retarded they believe this story at face value.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    I'm not surprised at all. The left is so full of hate and despises conservatives, that it would look at a beaten woman and say she is a liar. Disgusting.

    I must say this guy the mugger/thief has some pretty steady hands after punching her and ALL that adrenaline flowing and the hate to make such a smooth and almost perfect B.

    It's a wonder why she refused medical attention after such a vicious and hateful attack. Could it be that she didn't want anyone to take a closer look at these wounds for some verification?? Just asking.

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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    I'm not surprised at all. The left is so full of hate and despises conservatives, that it would look at a beaten woman and say she is a liar. Disgusting.
    That's a ridiculous comment to make. Do you have anything worth while to add to the conversation?

    People are giving their reasons why they feel that this woman may perhaps not be telling the full truth. I've already given mine. Care to explain why you feel we may be being unfair.
  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    I'm not surprised at all. The left is so full of hate and despises conservatives, that it would look at a beaten woman and say she is a liar. Disgusting.

    Left is so full of hate, blah blah blah. I guess the people at the McCain rallies screaming for Obama to be killed, calling him a terrorist, and screaming treason were from the left. Okaaaaay.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    That's a ridiculous comment to make. Do you have anything worth while to add to the conversation?

    People are giving their reasons why they feel that this woman may perhaps not be telling the full truth. I've already given mine. Care to explain why you feel we may be being unfair.

    I believed this story when I first heard it until I saw the photo and checked it every angle possible. It just doesn't add up.

    I seriously doubt that person will try and explain their side of this story.

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  • AusticmanAusticman Posts: 1,327
    This was just posted on an Australian news website

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=652859
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    g under p wrote:
    I believed this story when I first heard it until I saw the photo and checked it every angle possible. It just doesn't add up.

    I seriously doubt that person will try and explain their side of this story.

    Peace
    I hope she does. I'd love her to prove me wrong. I'm going on what i have seen from many assault victims. The 'B' on her face, is not consistant with a knife wound and there are no other injuries to support the signs of a struggle against someone using a knife. Cuts to hands fingers, arms etc.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    g under p wrote:
    OK when I first heard this I believed this hook line and sinker however when I saw the photo this story does not hold water. I love forensic science and this doesn't hold up.

    1. If you take a good look at the black eye it looks like make up there are no phases of bruising, different coloration (dark blue-purple-black)

    2. No swelling around the eye (this after NOT knowing how long after the incident this photo was taken), no broken blood vessels in the eye therefore a blood shot eye. No surrounding superficial swelling or wounds. It appears to be a perfect punch to her left eye.

    3. It matters none to me whether the B was upside or not but more of how superficial the B wound appears to be. It appears to may have been done carefully with a fingernail. It appears she never even bled.

    She would have to be unconcious for that B to be carved into her faced and if that robber was so vicious he wouldn't want to take the time it would take to carve that B.

    4. This happens outside the view of bank cameras, this fits so well together.

    5. Lastly after a robbery like this you're going to cry, from what I can see in that photo it doesn't appear that she even cried.

    I say simply give her a lie detector test and break it down from there.

    Peace
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    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I hope she does. I'd love her to prove me wrong. I'm going on what i have seen from many assault victims. The 'B' on her face, is not consistant with a knife wound and there are no other injuries to support the signs of a struggle against someone using a knife. Cuts to hands fingers, arms etc.

    I gave my thoughts earlier and I've seen my share of assault victims recovering and her wounds are just not consistent and I'd love to hear bootlegger 10's point of view on this.

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  • Someone watched Fight Club one too many times. She was either out cold for a real long time or she's real good with her nails, but not too good with the brain.

    I'm not a cop, but I know people who got beat up and they look far, far worse than that. So, if she came out a couple days later and really looked like shit, I'd be more willing to buy it.
  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    I don't know if the mugging was a hoax, but I bet the "mutilation" was. She sets it up on her blog when she writes that she's on the wrong side of Pittsburgh. Fishy.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    I don't know if the mugging was a hoax, but I bet the "mutilation" was. She sets it up on her blog when she writes that she's on the wrong side of Pittsburgh. Fishy.

    What's her blog I'd like to see it?

    Peace
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  • g under p wrote:
    What's her blog I'd like to see it?

    Peace


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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    g under p wrote:
    What's her blog I'd like to see it?

    Peace

    It's in this link http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23...awfully-weird/, which was posted earlier. The author writes about the victim's Twitter account.
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  • I can almost see this girl standing in front of a mirror and scratching it into her face with a key or something. It's too perfect, and why on earth would it be backwards?

    If I'm wrong, I apologize. But this story is a little fishy.

    my thoughts exactly. sounds like a bad episode of Law and order.
  • couple thoughts from the conservatives over at Sean hannity's website---

    Never thought of that. I heard Hannity say that it was not caught on the ATM vid but did show her there around the time of the alleged incident. And now who in thier right mind who is working for the McCain Campain carve a frickin upside down B on thier cheek. I saw a picture on drudge and it was back ward or upside down however you look at it. But in the highly unlikly case that she did stage it She must be as scared of b.o. as the rest of us. Got to give her props on that.


    If the footage of her using the ATM shows no injuries and then the police report shows she had injuries and the time frame suggests that she couldn't have had time to inflict facial wounds on herself, well then...
    Of course if it is a hoax maybe she's secretly working for Obama...


    If it is a setup I wonder if it might be a setup by Obama supporters to try and tilt the elction for Obama after it comes out as a hoax.
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    couple thoughts from the conservatives over at Sean hannity's website---

    Never thought of that. I heard Hannity say that it was not caught on the ATM vid but did show her there around the time of the alleged incident. And now who in thier right mind who is working for the McCain Campain carve a frickin upside down B on thier cheek. I saw a picture on drudge and it was back ward or upside down however you look at it. But in the highly unlikly case that she did stage it She must be as scared of b.o. as the rest of us. Got to give her props on that.


    If the footage of her using the ATM shows no injuries and then the police report shows she had injuries and the time frame suggests that she couldn't have had time to inflict facial wounds on herself, well then...
    Of course if it is a hoax maybe she's secretly working for Obama...


    If it is a setup I wonder if it might be a setup by Obama supporters to try and tilt the elction for Obama after it comes out as a hoax.

    Interesting twist. Obama infiltrates the McCain campaign and hires a 20 year old to commit a hoax like this when he is pulling away in all the polls. Makes sense.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    couple thoughts from the conservatives over at Sean hannity's website---

    Never thought of that. I heard Hannity say that it was not caught on the ATM vid but did show her there around the time of the alleged incident. And now who in thier right mind who is working for the McCain Campain carve a frickin upside down B on thier cheek. I saw a picture on drudge and it was back ward or upside down however you look at it. But in the highly unlikly case that she did stage it She must be as scared of b.o. as the rest of us. Got to give her props on that.


    If the footage of her using the ATM shows no injuries and then the police report shows she had injuries and the time frame suggests that she couldn't have had time to inflict facial wounds on herself, well then...
    Of course if it is a hoax maybe she's secretly working for Obama...


    If it is a setup I wonder if it might be a setup by Obama supporters to try and tilt the elction for Obama after it comes out as a hoax.

    One other problem she could be charged for atleast a false report, is that right?

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  • g under p wrote:
    I gave my thoughts earlier and I've seen my share of assault victims recovering and her wounds are just not consistent and I'd love to hear bootlegger 10's point of view on this.

    Peace

    He won't... unlike reasonable conservatives around here, bootlegger throws out idiotic lines and then disappears for days and never answers questions or points aimed at him.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    g under p wrote:
    One other problem she could be charged for atleast a false report, is that right?

    Peace
    I just want to know why she refused medical attention. It's not like she is shy or anything. Her face is plastered all over the media.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I just want to know why she refused medical attention. It's not like she is shy or anything. Her face is plastered all over the media.

    Like I said since this was such a hate filled Obama supporter crime wouldn't she want medical after being assaulted like this? Maybe she didn't want anyone to take a closer look at her wounds.

    BTW everywhere I travel here in DC I see OBAMA...with emphasis on the O. It would seem much easier to carve an O than a B how many folks call him Barrack? Then again what do I know. I don't how to make that confused symbol only the sad and happy ones.

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  • Uh-oh...


    http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/23/politically-motivated-mutilation-real-or-hoax/

    "Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker."

    I think Drudge and Fox are going to regret making her a poster child 12 days before the election if this is about to blow up into another unstable white person blaming a fictitious black man for a crime they committed themself. Just what McCain needs...
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I just want to know why she refused medical attention. It's not like she is shy or anything. Her face is plastered all over the media.

    In all fairness it's not her fault her face is all over the media. A story like this, whether true or not, right before the election, is going to get a HUGE spotlight. The funny thing is I live about a half hour from where this took place, and I heard about it from this board. I watch local and national news everyday. Refusing medical attention, I could see how that would be suspicious, although I know people who are like that. They don't want to pay if they don't have insurance. What's suspicious to me is that a) the B is backwards and b) it doesn't look like she was cut all that bad, if at all. If someone is so enraged that they are cutting you with a knife, you would think they would really tear up your skin. If it's true, she's lucky her face wasn't really butchered.
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  • g under p wrote:
    BTW everywhere I travel here in DC I see OBAMA...with emphasis on the O. It would seem much easier to carve an O than a B how many folks call him Barrack?

    Yup. I think she's going to regret not having gone with the "O"
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    g under p wrote:
    BTW everywhere I travel here in DC I see OBAMA...with emphasis on the O. It would seem much easier to carve an O than a B how many folks call him Barrack? Then again what do I know. I don't how to make that confused symbol only the sad and happy ones.

    Peace

    This is actually a legitimate point. My girlfriend and I were watching this story on the news earlier and she said the exact same thing you did. If they were trying to get an Obama point across, why wasn't it an O instead of a B because generally people don't refer to him as Barrack. Ironic.
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  • g under p wrote:
    Like I said since this was such a hate filled Obama supporter crime wouldn't want medical after being assaulted like this?

    BTW everywhere I travel here in DC I see OBAMA...with emphasis on the O. It would seem much easier to carve an O than a B how many folks call him Barrack? Then again what do I know. I don't how to make that confused symbol only the sad and happy ones.

    Peace



    I guess it depends on how recognizable you want the letter to be. It's hard to carve anything with curves with a straight edged weapon. I would expect to see something like you would find on a heavy metal album or something....letters with nothing but straight lines.

    http://ubuntu.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/larabie-fonts.png

    the second one is what I would expect.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    fugawzi wrote:
    This is actually a legitimate point. My girlfriend and I were watching this story on the news earlier and she said the exact same thing you did. If they were trying to get an Obama point across, why wasn't it an O instead of a B?

    The main thing is IF you did this to yourself one could never tell if you did this with the aid of a mirror to yourself.

    We shall see how this turns out cause she's going to grill about this whole story.

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    I guess it depends on how recognizable you want the letter to be. It's hard to carve anything with curves with a straight edged weapon. I would expect to see something like you would find on a heavy metal album or something....letters with nothing but straight lines.

    http://ubuntu.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/larabie-fonts.png

    the second one is what I would expect.

    Like one of the bands I liked....http://www.catacombscds.com/product/Def_Leppard_-_Logo_Sticker.html

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    First of all, it's kind of creepy that we're thinking about this in this manner. "Come on, if he wanted to get the point across he would have carved an O." But I understand people being suspicious, because it's starting to seem pretty suspicious. I think we should hold off on condemnation of one side or the other until more is known. I just can't imagine that someone would think through the logic of faking something like this, knowing the racial tensions it would intensify, etc. etc. It's kind of frightening, that potential thought process. That being said, it's probably better that than the alternative (i.e. it happened like she said), because then I'm sure racial tensions would be even more frayed.
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