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Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

well obviously you are not emotionless if you are able to hate that you cry during movies.

and the omen is hardly a scary film. especially to an atheist.

Well, apparently I'm sick for my philosophical views. I absolutely love the discrimination on this board.

I'm emotionless, sick, strange, I should die a horrible death. Sheesh, all because I don't believe in free-will. I thought the days of burning witches was over.

Anyway, it's just indicative of how myopic people can be.

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

Well, apparently I'm sick for my philosophical views. I absolutely love the discrimination on this board.

I'm emotionless, sick, strange, I should die a horrible death. Sheesh, all because I don't believe in free-will. I thought the days of burning witches was over.

Anyway, it's just indicative of how myopic people can be.

you don't believe man has free will?
you're a witch?
what sick philosophical views?
where have i been through all this?

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

you don't believe man has free will?
you're a witch?
what sick philosophical views?
where have i been through all this?

Yea, only everywhere I try to argue a point from my perspective of determinism.

So, if I say that a person commits murder because of influence in their life. I history of experience that reinforces the choice they made to commit murder. I am branded negatively. If I do not hold free-will accountable for every disgraceful act, I am branded. I honestly thought determinism would be more widely accepted. It seems compatibalism and indeterminism as historical social percepts are strong, unwavering and uncompromising.

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, only everywhere I try to argue a point from my perspective of determinism.

So, if I say that a person commits murder because of influence in their life. I history of experience that reinforces the choice they made to commit murder. I am branded negatively. If I do not hold free-will accountable for every disgraceful act, I am branded. I honestly thought determinism would be more widely accepted. It seems compatibalism and indeterminism as historical social percepts are strong, unwavering and uncompromising.

whilst i do believe man has free will, i also acknowledge that there are cases where the negative influences visited upon a particular person are more responsible than his/her ability to determine right from wrong. and even if they are capable of determining right from wrong then quite often the urge for them to act, repulsively in society's eyes, is sometimes too overwhelming to fight.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

whilst i do believe man has free will, i also acknowledge that there are cases where the negative influences visited upon a particular person are more responsible than his/her ability to determine right from wrong. and even if they are capable of determining right from wrong then quite often the urge for them to act, repulsively in society's eyes, is sometimes too overwhelming to fight.

Like, for example.

A boy is born in the ghetto listening to the screams of his mother as his father beats her. His mother addicted to heroin, barely pays attention to her child and it's needs for guidance. The child, a young boy interacts within a society of insufficient law, prostitution, narcotics and gang violence. As a young man, the child interacts within the only environment, based on the only behavior he knows.

Now take that man out of his initial environment, make it one of the baddest ass ghettos in all of the world and put them into a social paradise. How do you think they will act? And did they act within their original environment without being subject to that environment?

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

Like, for example.

A boy is born in the ghetto listening to the screams of his mother as his father beats her. His mother addicted to heroin, barely pays attention to her child and it's needs for guidance. The child, a young boy interacts within a society of insufficient law, prostitution, narcotics and gang violence. As a young man, the child interacts within the only environment, based on the only behavior he knows.

Now take that man out of his initial environment, make it one of the baddest ass ghettos in all of the world and put them into a social paradise. How do you think they will act? And did they act within their original environment without being subject to that environment?

sometimes your posts confuse me ahnimus.
are you asking how we expect the boy to act once he is removed from his original influence and whether the way in which he acts is indicative of that initial influence. whether his new environment will have any influence on him at all or will his exposure to a 'lawless' environment take precedence.

and exactly what is a 'social paradise'?

harmless_little_f***

catefrances wrote:

and exactly what is a 'social paradise'?

Disney's Celebration, in Florida.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

sometimes your posts confuse me ahnimus.
are you asking how we expect the boy to act once he is removed from his original influence and whether the way in which he acts is indicative of that initial influence. whether his new environment will have any influence on him at all or will his exposure to a 'lawless' environment take precedence.

and exactly what is a 'social paradise'?

My point is that people act as their environment allows them. For whatever reason, I mean it's so complex to say the least. Even just going to another country with different customs can be dangerous or nerve-racking.

A fellow I know from Guiana said he was in some city in Europe somewhere and he was used to talking to people by standing close and looking straight into their eyes as they did in the last culture he was at. Except this time the behavior was seen as quite offensive and people kept their distance while not making eye-contact. It's just so flippin' different everywhere, and everyone is different. It can only be explained by personal dynamics of some sort. The way in which a personality evolves.

redrock

onelongsong wrote:

no no no. how could the heart evolve slowly over time? that's the point.

huh?

angelica

Ahnimus wrote:

I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.

People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.

I want to say, Ahnimus, for what it's worth, that I don't see you as emotionless. Even when I refer to your personality type, the thinking preference means that one prefers to make decisions based on logic and rational thought. That does not mean you don't have emotions like anyone else.

angelica

cutback wrote:

Why? Can't he have a little fun? Stir us up into a frenzy with inane posts that if you saw them written out would be written in crayon? Ed's a fun guy.;):)

I had my first LOL of the day due to this. Thanks!