Greatest Post Ever

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Jeanie wrote:
    WOW!!! What a thread! And so many interesting points of view. I do not believe that God exists for me. Having said that I do believe that He (or She people!) does exist for many, many people in many different variants around the world. I don't believe that I am any less moral a person because I do not believe. As far as I am concerned I was born with an inherited knowledge of what is right or wrong. It was given to me in my DNA from my parents and they from their parents, just like eye color and hair color and body type. I also learnt moral behaviour from family, friends and the world as I grew up and continue to grow up and I will continue aquiring this knowledge over my life. I think babies are born with the inherent knowledge of what is right or wrong, what it moral and what is immoral. I have no problem with people holding GOD, Allah, Buddha ***insert religious icon here*** as their moral compass. I just find it is unecissary for my life and I have to admit that evangelical religious people who feel the need to convert me to their way of thinking are very distressing to me. I don't have a problem with them holding their beliefs and I wish they would afford me the same courtesy. Many of my friends and family members are moral, religious people of faith. And many very caring and highly moral people in my life are athiests. I love them all. If people, all people, hold love in their hearts and go forward into the world with love in their hearts then we will all be alright. I just can't pick a team! I don't like team sports!
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    Oh my! How embarrassment! Glad you like it but "the greatest post ever"? It was just my humble opinion. Thank you onelongsong for your support and accolades. Much appreciated and all but can someone please turn of the spotlight now? :0

    sorry jeanie. i didn't say who posted and made sure your name wasn't shown but you let the cat out of the bag. you know i love you and this post really did change my life in a way. thank you for the fresh perspective.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    People are born full of hate or love? Whoa!

    I highly doubt that. Is that a religious viewpoint?

    no; observation. i've known kids rotten and evil from birth.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    There is absolutely no evidence that babies are born with any ability to discern right from wrong. It's most widely believed in clinical applications that babies are born with a blank slate and are not inclined to do anything for which they are not aware of. Babies learn through models, reinforcement and curiosity (trial and error).
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    Ahnimus wrote:
    For some reason that repeats in my head quite frequently.

    He spoke only through personally experiences and out of truth and love instead of fear. All while being one of the most completely hilarious, open-minded and unique people ever to hit a stage.
    09/04/05 - Calgary, AB
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    no; observation. i've known kids rotten and evil from birth.

    What observations allowed you to believe that babies can be innately evil?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    onelongsong wrote:
    sorry jeanie. i didn't say who posted and made sure your name wasn't shown but you let the cat out of the bag. you know i love you and this post really did change my life in a way. thank you for the fresh perspective.

    Oops! Did I mention I've only had 3 hours sleep? ;) Anyway glad you liked it and I'm happy to have had such a possitive impact on you. Guess I'm just trembling now because all the great minds on here will probably tear strips off me and I'm really too tired to defend myself adequately which is my own silly fault I know.:)
    NOPE!!!

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    bharQ wrote:
    He spoke only through personally experiences and out of truth and love instead of fear. All while being one of the most completely hilarious, open-minded and unique people ever to hit a stage.

    Well, besides matter being a slow vibration, the rest of what he said is complete bullshit. I guess that's why Acid is required to formulate such ideas.

    It still repeats in my head though, I can't stop it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Well, besides matter being a slow vibration, the rest of what he said is complete bullshit. I guess that's why Acid is required to formulate such ideas.

    It still repeats in my head though, I can't stop it.

    I assumed you knew hicks.. that particular quote was in reference to the news always talking about people eating acid and thinking they can fly.. then him saying why don't we ever hear the positive stories.. the news is supposed to be subjective.. THE news.. anyways. I agree with his analogy on "The Ride" completely 100%.
    09/04/05 - Calgary, AB
    08/02/07 - LOLLA!!!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    bharQ wrote:
    I assumed you knew hicks.. that particular quote was in reference to the news always talking about people eating acid and thinking they can fly.. then him saying why don't we ever hear the positive stories.. the news is supposed to be subjective.. THE news.. anyways. I agree with his analogy on "The Ride" completely 100%.

    I just remember this from the beginning of Tool's song "Third Eye".
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Ahnimus wrote:
    There is absolutely no evidence that babies are born with any ability to discern right from wrong. It's most widely believed in clinical applications that babies are born with a blank slate and are not inclined to do anything for which they are not aware of. Babies learn through models, reinforcement and curiosity (trial and error).
    Bingo!

    The beating of the heart is not instinct....it is what happens automatically when you are alive. It stops when you die.

    While birds can flap their wings....they have to be taught how to fly through trial and error and by being shown by example. I am not versed on hummingbirds, so I am not sure if they are different or not. But there is no nothing that suggested human beings know right from wrong or have any sense of morales at birth.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Bingo!

    The beating of the heart is not instinct....it is what happens automatically when you are alive. It stops when you die.

    While birds can flap their wings....they have to be taught how to fly through trial and error and by being shown by example. I am not versed on hummingbirds, so I am not sure if they are different or not. But there is no nothing that suggested human beings know right from wrong or have any sense of morales at birth.

    Yea, we have to learn a lot more than just flying and digging up worms. That's why the bird can leave the nest in a fraction of the time humans leave the nest. It takes us nearly 19 years to learn the basics of survival in our environments.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Bingo!

    The beating of the heart is not instinct....it is what happens automatically when you are alive. It stops when you die.

    While birds can flap their wings....they have to be taught how to fly through trial and error and by being shown by example. I am not versed on hummingbirds, so I am not sure if they are different or not. But there is no nothing that suggested human beings know right from wrong or have any sense of morales at birth.

    no no no. how could the heart evolve slowly over time? that's the point.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Jeanie wrote:
    Oops! Did I mention I've only had 3 hours sleep? ;) Anyway glad you liked it and I'm happy to have had such a possitive impact on you. Guess I'm just trembling now because all the great minds on here will probably tear strips off me and I'm really too tired to defend myself adequately which is my own silly fault I know.:)

    don't let the sharks in the pit bother you. most are blowing smoke out their asses anyway. the smart ones debate intelligently.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Why is stating what should be painfully obvious so brilliant.

    Even the worst criminals in history had some degree of morality. Likewise, some very respected church people have shown to have a very low morality....but they still had some.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    onelongsong wrote:
    no; observation. i've known kids rotten and evil from birth.
    I know Ahnimus already asked, but I'm curious as well ... what observations led to your evil baby hypothesis?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Everyone has morality, the basis of which is to be found in a history of reinforcement.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    What observations allowed you to believe that babies can be innately evil?

    The Omen. Damien: The Omen 2. Scary shit man, scary shit.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    The Omen. Damien: The Omen 2. Scary shit man, scary shit.

    I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.

    People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.

    People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.

    They remade The Omen a few years ago. I recommend seeing the original, made in the 70's.

    It's a good Bible story.:)
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  • catefrances
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.

    People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.

    well obviously you are not emotionless if you are able to hate that you cry during movies.

    and the omen is hardly a scary film. especially to an atheist.
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