The beating of the heart is not instinct....it is what happens automatically when you are alive. It stops when you die.
While birds can flap their wings....they have to be taught how to fly through trial and error and by being shown by example. I am not versed on hummingbirds, so I am not sure if they are different or not. But there is no nothing that suggested human beings know right from wrong or have any sense of morales at birth.
Yea, we have to learn a lot more than just flying and digging up worms. That's why the bird can leave the nest in a fraction of the time humans leave the nest. It takes us nearly 19 years to learn the basics of survival in our environments.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
The beating of the heart is not instinct....it is what happens automatically when you are alive. It stops when you die.
While birds can flap their wings....they have to be taught how to fly through trial and error and by being shown by example. I am not versed on hummingbirds, so I am not sure if they are different or not. But there is no nothing that suggested human beings know right from wrong or have any sense of morales at birth.
no no no. how could the heart evolve slowly over time? that's the point.
Oops! Did I mention I've only had 3 hours sleep? Anyway glad you liked it and I'm happy to have had such a possitive impact on you. Guess I'm just trembling now because all the great minds on here will probably tear strips off me and I'm really too tired to defend myself adequately which is my own silly fault I know.:)
don't let the sharks in the pit bother you. most are blowing smoke out their asses anyway. the smart ones debate intelligently.
Why is stating what should be painfully obvious so brilliant.
Even the worst criminals in history had some degree of morality. Likewise, some very respected church people have shown to have a very low morality....but they still had some.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Everyone has morality, the basis of which is to be found in a history of reinforcement.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
The Omen. Damien: The Omen 2. Scary shit man, scary shit.
I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.
People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
well obviously you are not emotionless if you are able to hate that you cry during movies.
and the omen is hardly a scary film. especially to an atheist.
Well, apparently I'm sick for my philosophical views. I absolutely love the discrimination on this board.
I'm emotionless, sick, strange, I should die a horrible death. Sheesh, all because I don't believe in free-will. I thought the days of burning witches was over.
Anyway, it's just indicative of how myopic people can be.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Well, apparently I'm sick for my philosophical views. I absolutely love the discrimination on this board.
I'm emotionless, sick, strange, I should die a horrible death. Sheesh, all because I don't believe in free-will. I thought the days of burning witches was over.
Anyway, it's just indicative of how myopic people can be.
you don't believe man has free will?
you're a witch?
what sick philosophical views?
where have i been through all this?
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you don't believe man has free will?
you're a witch?
what sick philosophical views?
where have i been through all this?
Yea, only everywhere I try to argue a point from my perspective of determinism.
So, if I say that a person commits murder because of influence in their life. I history of experience that reinforces the choice they made to commit murder. I am branded negatively. If I do not hold free-will accountable for every disgraceful act, I am branded. I honestly thought determinism would be more widely accepted. It seems compatibalism and indeterminism as historical social percepts are strong, unwavering and uncompromising.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Yea, only everywhere I try to argue a point from my perspective of determinism.
So, if I say that a person commits murder because of influence in their life. I history of experience that reinforces the choice they made to commit murder. I am branded negatively. If I do not hold free-will accountable for every disgraceful act, I am branded. I honestly thought determinism would be more widely accepted. It seems compatibalism and indeterminism as historical social percepts are strong, unwavering and uncompromising.
whilst i do believe man has free will, i also acknowledge that there are cases where the negative influences visited upon a particular person are more responsible than his/her ability to determine right from wrong. and even if they are capable of determining right from wrong then quite often the urge for them to act, repulsively in society's eyes, is sometimes too overwhelming to fight.
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whilst i do believe man has free will, i also acknowledge that there are cases where the negative influences visited upon a particular person are more responsible than his/her ability to determine right from wrong. and even if they are capable of determining right from wrong then quite often the urge for them to act, repulsively in society's eyes, is sometimes too overwhelming to fight.
Like, for example.
A boy is born in the ghetto listening to the screams of his mother as his father beats her. His mother addicted to heroin, barely pays attention to her child and it's needs for guidance. The child, a young boy interacts within a society of insufficient law, prostitution, narcotics and gang violence. As a young man, the child interacts within the only environment, based on the only behavior he knows.
Now take that man out of his initial environment, make it one of the baddest ass ghettos in all of the world and put them into a social paradise. How do you think they will act? And did they act within their original environment without being subject to that environment?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
A boy is born in the ghetto listening to the screams of his mother as his father beats her. His mother addicted to heroin, barely pays attention to her child and it's needs for guidance. The child, a young boy interacts within a society of insufficient law, prostitution, narcotics and gang violence. As a young man, the child interacts within the only environment, based on the only behavior he knows.
Now take that man out of his initial environment, make it one of the baddest ass ghettos in all of the world and put them into a social paradise. How do you think they will act? And did they act within their original environment without being subject to that environment?
sometimes your posts confuse me ahnimus.
are you asking how we expect the boy to act once he is removed from his original influence and whether the way in which he acts is indicative of that initial influence. whether his new environment will have any influence on him at all or will his exposure to a 'lawless' environment take precedence.
and exactly what is a 'social paradise'?
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'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
sometimes your posts confuse me ahnimus.
are you asking how we expect the boy to act once he is removed from his original influence and whether the way in which he acts is indicative of that initial influence. whether his new environment will have any influence on him at all or will his exposure to a 'lawless' environment take precedence.
and exactly what is a 'social paradise'?
My point is that people act as their environment allows them. For whatever reason, I mean it's so complex to say the least. Even just going to another country with different customs can be dangerous or nerve-racking.
A fellow I know from Guiana said he was in some city in Europe somewhere and he was used to talking to people by standing close and looking straight into their eyes as they did in the last culture he was at. Except this time the behavior was seen as quite offensive and people kept their distance while not making eye-contact. It's just so flippin' different everywhere, and everyone is different. It can only be explained by personal dynamics of some sort. The way in which a personality evolves.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.
People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.
I want to say, Ahnimus, for what it's worth, that I don't see you as emotionless. Even when I refer to your personality type, the thinking preference means that one prefers to make decisions based on logic and rational thought. That does not mean you don't have emotions like anyone else.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Why? Can't he have a little fun? Stir us up into a frenzy with inane posts that if you saw them written out would be written in crayon? Ed's a fun guy.;):)
I had my first LOL of the day due to this. Thanks!
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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Yea, we have to learn a lot more than just flying and digging up worms. That's why the bird can leave the nest in a fraction of the time humans leave the nest. It takes us nearly 19 years to learn the basics of survival in our environments.
no no no. how could the heart evolve slowly over time? that's the point.
don't let the sharks in the pit bother you. most are blowing smoke out their asses anyway. the smart ones debate intelligently.
Even the worst criminals in history had some degree of morality. Likewise, some very respected church people have shown to have a very low morality....but they still had some.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
The Omen. Damien: The Omen 2. Scary shit man, scary shit.
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I've never seen it but I would like to. I like scary movies though, I'm never scared by movies.
People here argue that I am emotionless, yet I often cry during movies, as much as I hate it.
They remade The Omen a few years ago. I recommend seeing the original, made in the 70's.
It's a good Bible story.:)
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well obviously you are not emotionless if you are able to hate that you cry during movies.
and the omen is hardly a scary film. especially to an atheist.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Well, apparently I'm sick for my philosophical views. I absolutely love the discrimination on this board.
I'm emotionless, sick, strange, I should die a horrible death. Sheesh, all because I don't believe in free-will. I thought the days of burning witches was over.
Anyway, it's just indicative of how myopic people can be.
you don't believe man has free will?
you're a witch?
what sick philosophical views?
where have i been through all this?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Yea, only everywhere I try to argue a point from my perspective of determinism.
So, if I say that a person commits murder because of influence in their life. I history of experience that reinforces the choice they made to commit murder. I am branded negatively. If I do not hold free-will accountable for every disgraceful act, I am branded. I honestly thought determinism would be more widely accepted. It seems compatibalism and indeterminism as historical social percepts are strong, unwavering and uncompromising.
whilst i do believe man has free will, i also acknowledge that there are cases where the negative influences visited upon a particular person are more responsible than his/her ability to determine right from wrong. and even if they are capable of determining right from wrong then quite often the urge for them to act, repulsively in society's eyes, is sometimes too overwhelming to fight.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Like, for example.
A boy is born in the ghetto listening to the screams of his mother as his father beats her. His mother addicted to heroin, barely pays attention to her child and it's needs for guidance. The child, a young boy interacts within a society of insufficient law, prostitution, narcotics and gang violence. As a young man, the child interacts within the only environment, based on the only behavior he knows.
Now take that man out of his initial environment, make it one of the baddest ass ghettos in all of the world and put them into a social paradise. How do you think they will act? And did they act within their original environment without being subject to that environment?
are you asking how we expect the boy to act once he is removed from his original influence and whether the way in which he acts is indicative of that initial influence. whether his new environment will have any influence on him at all or will his exposure to a 'lawless' environment take precedence.
and exactly what is a 'social paradise'?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Disney's Celebration, in Florida.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
My point is that people act as their environment allows them. For whatever reason, I mean it's so complex to say the least. Even just going to another country with different customs can be dangerous or nerve-racking.
A fellow I know from Guiana said he was in some city in Europe somewhere and he was used to talking to people by standing close and looking straight into their eyes as they did in the last culture he was at. Except this time the behavior was seen as quite offensive and people kept their distance while not making eye-contact. It's just so flippin' different everywhere, and everyone is different. It can only be explained by personal dynamics of some sort. The way in which a personality evolves.
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