We Didn't Steal It.

melodious

Jeanie

mmmm.....tequila!

and that's a mighty fine looking agave too melodious!

chadwick

onelongsong wrote:

the agave is not a cactus. it is a succulent. TRUE tequilla is made by cutting the agave so it looks almost like a pinapple (removing the fiber); it is then put in a pit and roasted. when cooled it is fermented and distilled. true tequila is not bitter. tequila is made from the blue agave and bitter tequila is made from the more abundant agaves. the only distillery making true tequilla for sale is in a small town near porta vallarta mexico. the others have commercialized using ovens to bake the agave which also adds to it's bitterness.

on the labels of mezcal ive drank it stated agave cactus, ect.
or maybe it said agave plant, either way.
its a bad-ass plant for makin alcohol.
so what is the difference between tequilla and mezcal?
and yes ppl stole mexico just like they stole every other country.

melodious

Jeanie wrote:

mmmm.....tequila!

and that's a mighty fine looking agave too melodious!

that's kind of you to say Jeanie, but what attracts me to this post at this time, is your signature...might be exactly what the doc orders..


*i've made a mess of myself by f*cking me...

Jeanie

melodious wrote:

that's kind of you to say Jeanie, but what attracts me to this post at this time, is your signature...might be exactly what the doc orders...

Do you mean I should speak my mind? Or do you think I should get laid?

onelongsong

chadwick wrote:

on the labels of mezcal ive drank it stated agave cactus, ect.
or maybe it said agave plant, either way.
its a bad-ass plant for makin alcohol.
so what is the difference between tequilla and mezcal?
and yes ppl stole mexico just like they stole every other country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezcal

Mezcal is a Mexican distilled spirit made from the maguey plant, and refers to all agave based distilled liquors that are not tequila

onelongsong

chadwick wrote:

on the labels of mezcal ive drank it stated agave cactus, ect.
or maybe it said agave plant, either way.
its a bad-ass plant for makin alcohol.
so what is the difference between tequilla and mezcal?
and yes ppl stole mexico just like they stole every other country.

when i have a gig in porta vallarta i go to that distillery. they have a tour about making tequilla. they make lots of different flavours. my favourite is the coffee. you can't imagine how smoothe it is.

land is aquired; not stolen. it's done to this day. in 2004 i aquired a couple acres by adverse possession. my neighbor put up a fence but it was well within his property line because it was easier for him to fence. i then fenced my property connecting to his fence. then i waited until i could go to court and claim it. when i sold i made an extra $50K on that property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession

dunkman

Jeanie wrote:

Um.....England did not and will never "conquer" Australia.

thats right... cos it was Great Britain.. of which England is only one 1/4 of... England hasnt existed as a colonial force since 1707... since that date its been great britain

Jeanie

dunkman wrote:

thats right... cos it was Great Britain.. of which England is only one 1/4 of... England hasnt existed as a colonial force since 1707... since that date its been great britain

Seriously? Dunk? I can't be bothered trying to keep up with England, Great Britain or whatever they want to call themselves. I usually refer to them as the poms and that's affectionately of course.
I strongly doubt that Scotland, Wales or Ireland had much to do with sending the First Fleet to Australia, whether it was referred to as Great Britian at that time or not.

Actually I can't believe that ironically I referred to it as England in my initial post because I didn't want you flaming me!

sponger

The mexicans left behind some really nice architecture, though. The Missions that dot the entire california coast are really an interesting piece of history to look at. You know you went to elementary school in california if you went on a field trip to a spanish mission when you were a kid.

When I was in h.s. I was banging this chick who lived in a hacienda style mansion. Threw a party in the court yard one night when her dad was out of town, and I was the designated "bouncer". I ended up throwing out this guy who didn't want to break out the backpack full of beer he brought with him. He was a really nice guy for all intents and purposes. I had PE with him. I don't know what his problem was that night. Actually, now that I remember, he said that he was holding onto it for a friend. Anyway, he passed away a couple of years ago, and I couldn't help but feel really guilty about our last interaction being one that was so negative.

dunkman

Jeanie wrote:

Seriously? Dunk? I can't be bothered trying to keep up with England, Great Britain or whatever they want to call themselves. I usually refer to them as the poms and that's affectionately of course.
I strongly doubt that Scotland, Wales or Ireland had much to do with sending the First Fleet to Australia, whether it was referred to as Great Britian at that time or not.

Actually I can't believe that ironically I referred to it as England in my initial post because I didn't want you flaming me!

well Ireland wouldnt as its not part of Great Britain

shows ignorance that you cant be 'bothered' :( which is a shame... so you strongly doubt.... hmmmm ok, thats enough 'evidence' for me.. i believe you :rolleyes:

Jeanie

dunkman wrote:

well Ireland wouldnt as its not part of Great Britain

shows ignorance that you cant be 'bothered' :( which is a shame... so you strongly doubt.... hmmmm ok, thats enough 'evidence' for me.. i believe you :rolleyes:

Well you interpret it as ignorance if you like. If I was aware when I posted that I would need to provide evidence for you then perhaps I would have gone to the trouble. Although considering most of what I post seemingly goes unanswered by you, I'm really not sure why I would bother on the off chance. Seeing as I wasn't even responding to one of your posts and the thread isn't even about England, Great Britian, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, whatever then perhaps of all the posts you could have taken offence to today you mighta picked one that was relevent to the thread title.

Now are you happy that I've burned dinner with all this shennanigans?

dunkman

Jeanie wrote:

Well you interpret it as ignorance if you like. If I was aware when I posted that I would need to provide evidence for you then perhaps I would have gone to the trouble. Although considering most of what I post seemingly goes unanswered by you, I'm really not sure why I would bother on the off chance. Seeing as I wasn't even responding to one of your posts and the thread isn't even about England, Great Britian, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, whatever then perhaps of all the posts you could have taken offence to today you mighta picked one that was relevent to the thread title.

Now are you happy that I've burned dinner with all this shennanigans?

i'm not offended... i just think it shows ignorance of world history to say England instead of Great Britain... i.e. England fought Germany in WW2.

no they didnt...

sorry, just that kind of thing bugs me.

what you eating?

melodious

Jeanie wrote:

Do you mean I should speak my mind? Or do you think I should get laid?

whichever pleases you....(an entirely different topic). no, i mean i am a real piece of work and i am trying to claim my inner responsiblities about all the carnage i have influenced..i like that you said, "f*ck me...as opposed to saying f*ck you, now i better jump back off before i gettin meself into trouble....please have a lovely rest of your monday...

a year ago, i was more than a victim to myself, i was like la migra to my beloved brothers and sisters...a real piece of work..

thanks for being, Jeannie...

melodious

sponger wrote:

The mexicans left behind some really nice architecture, though. The Missions that dot the entire california coast are really an interesting piece of history to look at. You know you went to elementary school in california if you went on a field trip to a spanish mission when you were a kid.

When I was in h.s. I was banging this chick who lived in a hacienda style mansion. Threw a party in the court yard one night when her dad was out of town, and I was the designated "bouncer". I ended up throwing out this guy who didn't want to break out the backpack full of beer he brought with him. He was a really nice guy for all intents and purposes. I had PE with him. I don't know what his problem was that night. Actually, now that I remember, he said that he was holding onto it for a friend. Anyway, he passed away a couple of years ago, and I couldn't help but feel really guilty about our last interaction being one that was so negative.

left behind?

we are building left and right with spanish/mexican archi all over in me neighborhood...

but i share same sentiments about not letting a sun rise when you have had "words" with a friend that you care about....

onelongsong

dunkman wrote:

i'm not offended... i just think it shows ignorance of world history to say England instead of Great Britain... i.e. England fought Germany in WW2.

no they didnt...

sorry, just that kind of thing bugs me.

what you eating?

i think an intelligent person would recognise that most of us are busy so we use the shortest possible word usage such as ppl for people; IMO; and other abbreviations. my generation usually refers to britain as mother england.
you bug me too so everything is status quo.

TheVoiceInside

onelongsong wrote:

have you ever seen this vast amount of territory? it's worthless. at least most of it is. worthless desert uninhabitable by humans.
but wait; let's look at all the territory england has conquered over the world. from india; to the falklands to austrailia. why don't we hear about this?
mexico is still an undeveloped country and the chances that they would have built hoover dam to bring water to some of this area are nil. the southwest would still only be area to pass through to get into the us.

What would the US be today without California? Isnt California by itself one of the largest economies in the world?. Take away California and the US would not be what it is today. And Maybe Mexico would be something alot better.

onelongsong

TheVoiceInside wrote:

What would the US be today without California? Isnt California by itself one of the largest economies in the world?. Take away California and the US would not be what it is today. And Maybe Mexico would be something alot better.

mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.

TheVoiceInside

onelongsong wrote:

mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.

I think your underestimating the importance of California.

melodious

onelongsong wrote:

mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.

you are not seeing the entire picture with california...what was once considered the fruit basket, is now being turned into monoculture. every where you see, fruit orchards are being taken out for vineyards (and these vineyard owners pull the water out of natural springs without permits, or use permits but exceed stipulations by building "illegal holding ponds" . so if we compare cali to a box of serial, try raisnin bran!!!



in the locality where i reside, which was once known as the pear capital of the word, is now vineyards...

stripping a way a habitat that fed local indigenous (pomo/miwok) tribes for 32,000 years...i take my camera out to measure the landscape and believe me, it almost seems like the feudal system has returned...

*what i have seen in northern cental valley consists of stawberries, sunflower plants and rice fields and where land has been depleted from nutrients, is just simply being sold off to developers for more regulated low/income housing..

it's not all santa monica blvd.....;)