We Didn't Steal It.

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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeanie wrote:
    Seriously? Dunk? I can't be bothered trying to keep up with England, Great Britain or whatever they want to call themselves. I usually refer to them as the poms and that's affectionately of course.
    I strongly doubt that Scotland, Wales or Ireland had much to do with sending the First Fleet to Australia, whether it was referred to as Great Britian at that time or not.

    :D Actually I can't believe that ironically I referred to it as England in my initial post because I didn't want you flaming me! :p


    well Ireland wouldnt as its not part of Great Britain :p

    shows ignorance that you cant be 'bothered' :( which is a shame... so you strongly doubt.... hmmmm ok, thats enough 'evidence' for me.. i believe you :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    dunkman wrote:
    well Ireland wouldnt as its not part of Great Britain :p

    shows ignorance that you cant be 'bothered' :( which is a shame... so you strongly doubt.... hmmmm ok, thats enough 'evidence' for me.. i believe you :rolleyes:

    Well you interpret it as ignorance if you like. If I was aware when I posted that I would need to provide evidence for you then perhaps I would have gone to the trouble. Although considering most of what I post seemingly goes unanswered by you, I'm really not sure why I would bother on the off chance. Seeing as I wasn't even responding to one of your posts and the thread isn't even about England, Great Britian, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, whatever then perhaps of all the posts you could have taken offence to today you mighta picked one that was relevent to the thread title.

    Now are you happy that I've burned dinner with all this shennanigans? :p
    NOPE!!!

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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well you interpret it as ignorance if you like. If I was aware when I posted that I would need to provide evidence for you then perhaps I would have gone to the trouble. Although considering most of what I post seemingly goes unanswered by you, I'm really not sure why I would bother on the off chance. Seeing as I wasn't even responding to one of your posts and the thread isn't even about England, Great Britian, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, whatever then perhaps of all the posts you could have taken offence to today you mighta picked one that was relevent to the thread title.

    Now are you happy that I've burned dinner with all this shennanigans? :p



    i'm not offended... i just think it shows ignorance of world history to say England instead of Great Britain... i.e. England fought Germany in WW2.

    no they didnt...

    sorry, just that kind of thing bugs me.

    what you eating? :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Jeanie wrote:
    :) Do you mean I should speak my mind? Or do you think I should get laid? ;)
    whichever pleases you....(an entirely different topic). no, i mean i am a real piece of work and i am trying to claim my inner responsiblities about all the carnage i have influenced..i like that you said, "f*ck me...as opposed to saying f*ck you, now i better jump back off before i gettin meself into trouble....please have a lovely rest of your monday...

    a year ago, i was more than a victim to myself, i was like la migra to my beloved brothers and sisters...a real piece of work..

    thanks for being, Jeannie...
    all insanity:
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    sponger wrote:
    The mexicans left behind some really nice architecture, though. The Missions that dot the entire california coast are really an interesting piece of history to look at. You know you went to elementary school in california if you went on a field trip to a spanish mission when you were a kid.

    When I was in h.s. I was banging this chick who lived in a hacienda style mansion. Threw a party in the court yard one night when her dad was out of town, and I was the designated "bouncer". I ended up throwing out this guy who didn't want to break out the backpack full of beer he brought with him. He was a really nice guy for all intents and purposes. I had PE with him. I don't know what his problem was that night. Actually, now that I remember, he said that he was holding onto it for a friend. Anyway, he passed away a couple of years ago, and I couldn't help but feel really guilty about our last interaction being one that was so negative.
    left behind?

    we are building left and right with spanish/mexican archi all over in me neighborhood...

    but i share same sentiments about not letting a sun rise when you have had "words" with a friend that you care about....
    all insanity:
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    dunkman wrote:
    i'm not offended... i just think it shows ignorance of world history to say England instead of Great Britain... i.e. England fought Germany in WW2.

    no they didnt...

    sorry, just that kind of thing bugs me.

    what you eating? :)

    i think an intelligent person would recognise that most of us are busy so we use the shortest possible word usage such as ppl for people; IMO; and other abbreviations. my generation usually refers to britain as mother england.
    you bug me too so everything is status quo.
  • have you ever seen this vast amount of territory? it's worthless. at least most of it is. worthless desert uninhabitable by humans.
    but wait; let's look at all the territory england has conquered over the world. from india; to the falklands to austrailia. why don't we hear about this?
    mexico is still an undeveloped country and the chances that they would have built hoover dam to bring water to some of this area are nil. the southwest would still only be area to pass through to get into the us.


    What would the US be today without California? Isnt California by itself one of the largest economies in the world?. Take away California and the US would not be what it is today. And Maybe Mexico would be something alot better.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    What would the US be today without California? Isnt California by itself one of the largest economies in the world?. Take away California and the US would not be what it is today. And Maybe Mexico would be something alot better.

    mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
    there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.
  • mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
    there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.



    I think your underestimating the importance of California.
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
    there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.
    you are not seeing the entire picture with california...what was once considered the fruit basket, is now being turned into monoculture. every where you see, fruit orchards are being taken out for vineyards (and these vineyard owners pull the water out of natural springs without permits, or use permits but exceed stipulations by building "illegal holding ponds" . so if we compare cali to a box of serial, try raisnin bran!!!



    in the locality where i reside, which was once known as the pear capital of the word, is now vineyards...

    stripping a way a habitat that fed local indigenous (pomo/miwok) tribes for 32,000 years...i take my camera out to measure the landscape and believe me, it almost seems like the feudal system has returned...

    *what i have seen in northern cental valley consists of stawberries, sunflower plants and rice fields and where land has been depleted from nutrients, is just simply being sold off to developers for more regulated low/income housing..

    it's not all santa monica blvd.....;)
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    mexico has vast quanties of gold and oil. if el presidente didn't pocket the money mexico would be much better off. california is going broke. yuma arizona is one of the biggest producers of vegetables now. most of californias money is in the movie industry which can be moved anywhere.
    there's a saying about california: california is like a box of cereal; what isn't fruits and nuts is flakes.
    7th in the world market concerning oil production, what do you think this fence is really all about????? mexican people are decent and good, but have you ever noticed that second generational latino's who come from decent, hard working families, get indoctrinated in the capitalism race...almost like they lose their fundamental principles..wow! like losing their religion.....
    all insanity:
    a derivitive of nature.
    nature is god
    god is love
    love is light
  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    we stole it all. or swindled it.......
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    when i have a gig in porta vallarta i go to that distillery. they have a tour about making tequilla. they make lots of different flavours. my favourite is the coffee. you can't imagine how smoothe it is.

    land is aquired; not stolen. it's done to this day. in 2004 i aquired a couple acres by adverse possession. my neighbor put up a fence but it was well within his property line because it was easier for him to fence. i then fenced my property connecting to his fence. then i waited until i could go to court and claim it. when i sold i made an extra $50K on that property.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession

    You just lost me dude.
    What exactly did you do with the neighbor?
    Are you sayin you took the land he was living on or something?
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    no more forever."

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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    chadwick wrote:
    You just lost me dude.
    What exactly did you do with the neighbor?
    Are you sayin you took the land he was living on or something?

    he owned about 40 acres and i took about 2 acres. because of a gourge he couldn't access those 2 acres without passing on my property.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    melodious wrote:
    you are not seeing the entire picture with california...what was once considered the fruit basket, is now being turned into monoculture. every where you see, fruit orchards are being taken out for vineyards (and these vineyard owners pull the water out of natural springs without permits, or use permits but exceed stipulations by building "illegal holding ponds" . so if we compare cali to a box of serial, try raisnin bran!!!



    in the locality where i reside, which was once known as the pear capital of the word, is now vineyards...

    stripping a way a habitat that fed local indigenous (pomo/miwok) tribes for 32,000 years...i take my camera out to measure the landscape and believe me, it almost seems like the feudal system has returned...

    *what i have seen in northern cental valley consists of stawberries, sunflower plants and rice fields and where land has been depleted from nutrients, is just simply being sold off to developers for more regulated low/income housing..

    it's not all santa monica blvd.....;)

    you're right and i'm wrong. i admit that. but i'm taking the current situation into account. that being that the water arizona and nevada sold to california is needed in those states. california cannot support it's own population with water. so; hoover dam had to be built to provide water to california BEFORE it could become the state it grew into. that's my point. at the time of the treaty; ca was basically worthless.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    that's my point. at the time of the treaty; ca was basically worthless.

    Well, that's a decidely Western point of view. With the influx of Europeans, obviously, self-sustenance had to take on a different style than what the indigeneous people of the land needed, or were accustomed to seeing.

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    California is a horrible, HORRIBLE place to be. Please, PLEASE... do not come here... it is horrible... I repeat... HORRIBLE.
    ...
    But, if you do decide to come here... please, spend all of your tourist dollars and don't forget to use thet return ticket. Thank you.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    he owned about 40 acres and i took about 2 acres. because of a gourge he couldn't access those 2 acres without passing on my property.

    I don't know why but I am so very confused
    about your neighbor and you with the fence
    and the acres, as well as the going to court
    over it.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    chadwick wrote:
    I don't know why but I am so very confused
    about your neighbor and you with the fence
    and the acres, as well as the going to court
    over it.
    ...
    "Neither shall you covet your neighbour’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour."
    Deuteronomy 5:21
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    he owned about 40 acres and i took about 2 acres. because of a gourge he couldn't access those 2 acres without passing on my property.

    So are you a real asshole or was he? Or were neither of you?
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    dunkman wrote:
    i'm not offended... i just think it shows ignorance of world history to say England instead of Great Britain... i.e. England fought Germany in WW2.

    no they didnt...

    sorry, just that kind of thing bugs me.

    what you eating? :)

    dunk, I think you're bored! :p I upset soooo many people by using the term Great Britian here on a post awhile ago I've simply tried not to use it since!!
    Of course I should have known that you're damned if you do and damned if you don't around here! You don't have to convince me about England or Great Britain. Or about WW1 or WW2. Or who fought who and under what flag they did it. We were still saluting the Union Jack and singing God Save the Queen every morning at assembly when I was a kid and we'd been a nation for over 70 years by that time. Considering that I didn't even study World History in school here when I was growing up, one would hope that you could understand that it's not my intention to bug you or anybody else for that matter. Anyway, not trying to be ignorant or offensive and hopefully you'll remember that it's me here and understand that. :)

    Dinner was semi burned chicken and vegetable stir fry with sweet chilli sauce and it wasn't bad! If a little too crispy and charcoal!! ;):D
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Is Morocco part of Great Britain?

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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    melodious wrote:
    whichever pleases you....(an entirely different topic). no, i mean i am a real piece of work and i am trying to claim my inner responsiblities about all the carnage i have influenced..i like that you said, "f*ck me...as opposed to saying f*ck you, now i better jump back off before i gettin meself into trouble....please have a lovely rest of your monday...

    a year ago, i was more than a victim to myself, i was like la migra to my beloved brothers and sisters...a real piece of work..

    thanks for being, Jeannie...

    Well I'm working on both melodious! ;) Hence the lyric! (but you're right a whole other topic! )
    Don't be worrying about getting yourself into trouble. Trouble will find you whenever it wants. I guess it's how we deal with it that defines us. :)
    I guess I chose it because I like how it shows the two sides to a debate. In that you can speak your mind and you can say things that people really don't want to hear, and you should be able to do that, but it pays to remember that dispute usually always ends up hurting your opposition as well as yourself. I hope that whatever's going on with you that you are able to come to a good place within yourself. Inner peace is so underrated and sooo very important. :)

    and thank you for saying so! that kinda helps validate me, warts and all! ;)
    You're a good egg melodious! Have a great day.:)
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    chadwick wrote:
    I don't know why but I am so very confused
    about your neighbor and you with the fence
    and the acres, as well as the going to court
    over it.

    look at the link i posted from wiki.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well I'm working on both melodious! ;) Hence the lyric! (but you're right a whole other topic! )
    Don't be worrying about getting yourself into trouble. Trouble will find you whenever it wants. I guess it's how we deal with it that defines us. :)
    I guess I chose it because I like how it shows the two sides to a debate. In that you can speak your mind and you can say things that people really don't want to hear, and you should be able to do that, but it pays to remember that dispute usually always ends up hurting your opposition as well as yourself. I hope that whatever's going on with you that you are able to come to a good place within yourself. Inner peace is so underrated and sooo very important. :)

    and thank you for saying so! that kinda helps validate me, warts and all! ;)
    You're a good egg melodious! Have a great day.:)

    Melodious is in a good place with himself. He made a great showing in this thread, very inspiring.

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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Collin wrote:
    So are you a real asshole or was he? Or were neither of you?

    I guess like beauty, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
    NOPE!!!

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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    gue_barium wrote:
    Melodious is in a good place with himself. He made a great showing in this thread, very inspiring.

    I always find Melodious' posts interesting and often inspiring. Like many other people around here. :)
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Jeanie wrote:
    I always find Melodious' posts interesting and often inspiring. Like many other people around here. :)

    Then stop being so patronizing.

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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    gue_barium wrote:
    Then stop being so patronizing.

    Well if that's how you want to take it knock yourself out!

    I'll attempt to appear not to be patronizing if you could manage to stop appearing to be so perverted.
    NOPE!!!

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well if that's how you want to take it knock yourself out!

    I'll attempt to appear not to be patronizing if you could manage to stop appearing to be so perverted.

    I know you were trying to be kind, and we all know how melodious is sort of generally high and happy.

    The thing is, to me, he got onto something here in this topic that couldn't be be ignored, and he was gentlemanly and respectful in the process.

    Effective.

    And inspiring.

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