If there were safeguards in place to ensure that the raise hike wouldn't be absorbed by the consumers it would be a very good idea. Seeing as how minimum wage, with inflation considered, hasn't gone up in almost 40 years, it sure as hell is time.
I don't disagree. I was being somewhat sarcastic.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
So as long as you're only stealing from the businessman, and not the consumer, you're cool with it?
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Actually, i wouldn't consider it stealing.
Actually, as i sarcastically alluded to earlier, i don't think rasing the minimum wage will help much. Though, under current policy, i do think the minimum wage should be raised and safeguards such as commy mentioned implemented, actually, what i TRULY support ia a complete upheaval of the economic system under which we operate. A complete redistribution of wealth.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Actually, i wouldn't consider it stealing.
Actually, as i sarcastically alluded to earlier, i don't think rasing the minimum wage will help much. Though, under current policy, i do think the minimum wage should be raised and safeguards such as commy mentioned implemented, actually, what i TRULY support ia a complete upheaval of the economic system under which we operate. A complete redistribution of wealth.
I can respect that. I have absolutely nothing in common with socialists, but at least you know where you stand and what you are doing. It is the people who support redistribution of weath, but then claim they aren't socialists who puzzle me.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
so the bagger should lose his job so that the unskilled union member can earn an inflated wage?
why not fire the cashier and train the non-union bagger who will work for less?
i don't know many union cashiers as it is. most employees making minimum wage aren't union. and that's the idea of a minimum wage...they can't fire the person and get someone to do it for less, that would be illegal.
accounting for half the entire world's military spending leaves plenty of room to free up some cash. the US could take care of half the worlds health care if they really wanted too.
i can then set up shop off shore. employers are business owners because they're a little smarter. you'll never hurt the business owner. we close the doors and open somewhere else. i don't mean to be arrogant but every swing at the corporate world slaps the blue collar world in the face. fine me and i cut jobs; then spread the work to the remaining workers. if they don't want to do it; there's a hungry person behind them willing to do it.
yeah, take your supermarket to zimbabwe, good luck over there.
You really think the high school kid at the local fast food, or the college kid working the coffee shop needs $24/hr? It's been mentioned on this thread already, but triple the pay for employees will drastically increase costs to customers. Most employers can't afford to absorb it even if they wanted to. So many small businesses would shut down, the local family business that employ 5 employees don't make enough to pay each employee a salary of 50k.
The example I think of is my first real job. I worked for a great family at a small business who paid me $8/hr. After a couple months the owner told me I was his best employee and started paying me $10/hr. I know both husband and wife worked about 50-60 hours a week each, and made a profit of less than 150k a year for the both of them. If they paid each employee even $15 an hour they'd be making less than that themselves. And if they upped it to $24 they'd be in debt for running the business. If they tried to pass the cost on to customers, they'd lose too much business.
Then there's the trickle-up. If you pay a starting employee 50k, then the assst managers and experienced employees will need 70k, and managers 100k, and few businesses could afford that. And what would be the point be of getting an education if instead of going to college for 4 years, you just drop out of high school and make 50k a year, and by the time your friends are graduating college you're the manager of some local fast food joint making 6 figures. I'd rather see programs that make it easier for people to get an education (not free, but easier) and better their lives by getting better jobs, than giving some high school kid mopping the floor 50k.
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Actually, i wouldn't consider it stealing.
Actually, as i sarcastically alluded to earlier, i don't think rasing the minimum wage will help much. Though, under current policy, i do think the minimum wage should be raised and safeguards such as commy mentioned implemented, actually, what i TRULY support ia a complete upheaval of the economic system under which we operate. A complete redistribution of wealth.
I can respect that. I have absolutely nothing in common with socialists, but at least you know where you stand and what you are doing. It is the people who support redistribution of weath, but then claim they aren't socialists who puzzle me.
i don't know many union cashiers as it is. most employees making minimum wage aren't union. and that's the idea of a minimum wage...they can't fire the person and get someone to do it for less, that would be illegal.
accounting for half the entire world's military spending leaves plenty of room to free up some cash. the US could take care of half the worlds health care if they really wanted too.
yeah, take your supermarket to zimbabwe, good luck over there.
The province estimates that 305,000 employed Albertans earn less than $15 an hour
Dean Bennett - The Canadian Press
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
It's been mentioned on this thread already, but triple the pay for employees will drastically increase costs to customers. Most employers can't afford to absorb it even if they wanted to. So many small businesses would shut down, the local family business that employ 5 employees don't make enough to pay each employee a salary of 50k.
The example I think of is my first real job. I worked for a great family at a small business who paid me $8/hr. After a couple months the owner told me I was his best employee and started paying me $10/hr. I know both husband and wife worked about 50-60 hours a week each, and made a profit of less than 150k a year for the both of them. If they paid each employee even $15 an hour they'd be making less than that themselves. And if they upped it to $24 they'd be in debt for running the business. If they tried to pass the cost on to customers, they'd lose too much business.
Then there's the trickle-up. If you pay a starting employee 50k, then the assst managers and experienced employees will need 70k, and managers 100k, and few businesses could afford that. And what would be the point be of getting an education if instead of going to college for 4 years, you just drop out of high school and make 50k a year, and by the time your friends are graduating college you're the manager of some local fast food joint making 6 figures.
I'd rather see programs that make it easier for people to get an education (not free, but easier) and better their lives by getting better jobs, than giving some high school kid mopping the floor 50k.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon