Minimum Wage

onelongsong

prism wrote:

never could understand those that try to defend being greedy

i'm not defending shit. i figure i'm just smarter.

prism

onelongsong wrote:

not always true.
walmart has been able to lower prices on several items due to increased buying power. i offer quantity discounts and if you're a healthy eater; chances are you eat one or more of my products. as each year goes by; i find ways to increase profits and ways to pass savings on to my customers. mostly in larger sales. i'm currently working with schwans to carry my products. this will allow me to almost double my opperation and discount to those large customers who will discount to the consumer. this increases my sales and greatly increases my profits.

all the while still leaving out the employee while providing the world with your miracle-cure-medical-grade buffalo meat....ha

prism

onelongsong wrote:

i'm not defending shit. i figure i'm just smarter.

having more money does not make you smart....just greedy (this is not true of everyone with money)

onelongsong

prism wrote:

never could understand those that try to defend being greedy

let's look at this. i didn't make anyone buy 3 or 4 tv's; i only gave them a way to buy them reasonably. i didn't make anyone buy 3 or 4 vcrs or dvds; only gave them a way to buy them reasonably. i didn't force anyone to buy food they didn't raise; only provided food for those who didn't want to raise their own food. i didn't force anyone to buy machine products; i only provided machine products for those who wanted them. every one of you had the choice to own only one tv and invest the other monies. the choice was yours. don't piss and moan over your own choices. i was born dirt poor. we didn't own a tv until 1968.
it never ceases to amaze me how people who go through life making bad choices call successful people greedy.

onelongsong

prism wrote:

all the while still leaving out the employee while providing the world with your miracle-cure-medical-grade buffalo meat....ha

thanks for the plug. look for RED THUNDER brand buffalo meat now available.
and thanks to the government for the research grant.

onelongsong

for those new to the subject; when an animal is fed grain; it produces white fat which is high in bad cholesterol. grass fed animals produce yellow fat high in good cholesterol which lowers bad cholesterol.
my best advice is ASK YOUR DOCTORS.

prism

onelongsong wrote:

let's look at this. i didn't make anyone buy 3 or 4 tv's; i only gave them a way to buy them reasonably. i didn't make anyone buy 3 or 4 vcrs or dvds; only gave them a way to buy them reasonably. i didn't force anyone to buy food they didn't raise; only provided food for those who didn't want to raise their own food. i didn't force anyone to buy machine products; i only provided machine products for those who wanted them. every one of you had the choice to own only one tv and invest the other monies. the choice was yours. don't piss and moan over your own choices. i was born dirt poor. we didn't own a tv until 1968.
it never ceases to amaze me how people who go through life making bad choices call successful people greedy.

I'm not materialistic, i own one and half(it doesn't work half the time) tvs. the fact that I never allowed greed to be the guiding force in my financial choices in no way made them "bad choices." I don't try to live beyond my means. I may not have money but what i do have I'll gladly share with others.

you're the one that said that you make 58.823 times more than your employees. that is greed plain and simple....why bother trying to sugar coat it? how many of your employees could get medical insurance coverage if you paid for it with some of those profits instead of pocketing it for yourself?

prism

onelongsong wrote:

thanks for the plug. look for RED THUNDER brand buffalo meat now available.
and thanks to the government for the research grant.

onelongsong wrote:

for those new to the subject; when an animal is fed grain; it produces white fat which is high in bad cholesterol. grass fed animals produce yellow fat high in good cholesterol which lowers bad cholesterol.
my best advice is ASK YOUR DOCTORS.

1....2....3....BULLSHIT!


once again, when you're making shit up you might want to inform google.

onelongsong

prism wrote:

I'm not materialistic, i own one and half(it doesn't work half the time) tvs. the fact that I never allowed greed to be the guiding force in my financial choices in no way made them "bad choices." I don't try to live beyond my means. I may not have money but what i do have I'll gladly share with others.

you're the one that said that you make 58.823 times more than your employees. that is greed plain and simple....why bother trying to sugar coat it? how many of your employees could get medical insurance coverage if you paid for it with some of those profits instead of pocketing it for yourself?

those profits went into medical research to save your sorry ass. not like someone like bill gates who uses the money for mansions and fancy cars. those profits help abused and homeless children and the handicapped who cannot help themselves.those profits go to buy land forever dedicated to wildlife and wildlife only. i take nothing for myself. i live a simple life dedicated to the enviornment and i fund it with money from the people destroying it.

jlew24asu

onelongsong wrote:

those profits went into medical research to save your sorry ass. not like someone like bill gates who uses the money for mansions and fancy cars. those profits help abused and homeless children and the handicapped who cannot help themselves.those profits go to buy land forever dedicated to wildlife and wildlife only. i take nothing for myself. i live a simple life dedicated to the enviornment and i fund it with money from the people destroying it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_&_Melinda_Gates_Foundation

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm

onelongsong

and i'm proud to say my work with buffalo started in the 70's trying to save them from extinction.

IWillLiveForeve

onelongsong wrote:

those profits went into medical research to save your sorry ass. not like someone like bill gates who uses the money for mansions and fancy cars. those profits help abused and homeless children and the handicapped who cannot help themselves.those profits go to buy land forever dedicated to wildlife and wildlife only. i take nothing for myself. i live a simple life dedicated to the enviornment and i fund it with money from the people destroying it.

Um, Bill Gates has given something like 23 billion to charity via his foundation. He is, officially, the most giving philanthropist in history. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

onelongsong

jlew24asu wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_&_Melinda_Gates_Foundation

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm

does the man have more than 2 bedrooms? does the man have more than 1 tv? does the man have electricity? (grid) does the man have a car? (and not a ranch truck) has the man seen a movie in the last 10 years?

onelongsong

IWillLiveForeve wrote:

Um, Bill Gates has given something like 23 billion to charity via his foundation. He is, officially, the most giving philanthropist in history. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

so because bill gates funnels funds to himself from his entities to then donate in his own name for personal glory; it becomes more valuable than if the seperate entities donated it directly?
please explain.

IWillLiveForeve

onelongsong wrote:

so because bill gates funnels funds to himself from his entities to then donate in his own name for personal glory; it becomes more valuable than if the seperate entities donated it directly?
please explain.

Wow. Guy, he 'funnels' money to himself via HIS comapny. Money he has earned. It is not for his personal glory--he legitimately wants to help. Hell, what if it was for his 'glory'? The bottom line is millions have benefited from this money.

jlew24asu

onelongsong wrote:

does the man have more than 2 bedrooms? does the man have more than 1 tv? does the man have electricity? (grid) does the man have a car? (and not a ranch truck) has the man seen a movie in the last 10 years?

I'm really trying to find your point in all thiese rhetorical questions.

jlew24asu

onelongsong wrote:

so because bill gates funnels funds to himself from his entities to then donate in his own name for personal glory; it becomes more valuable than if the seperate entities donated it directly?
please explain.

you really need an explaination? ok here goes.

you know what I cant. except that you need to realize how much good that money does. read the websites I sent. you will learn alot.

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/MediaCenter/FactSheet/

in case you refuse to read it....just a few to start...keep in mind, he does not have to give a single penny to any of these projects. not one.


United Negro College Fund, Gates Millennium Scholars Program - $1 billion

The GAVI Alliance - $1.5 billion

Malaria Vaccine Initiative - $258 million

Save the Children, Saving Newborn Lives - $110 million

United Way of King County, Seattle, WA, - $55 million

Knowledgeworks Foundation - $20 million

National Council of Culture & Arts, Mexico Library Project - $11.7 million

Public Access Computing Hardware Upgrade Program, Multiple library systems - $5.3 million



do you have any idea how much money this is?

Total grant commitments since inception: $11 billion
Total 2005 grant payments: $1.36 billion

IWillLiveForeve

jlew24asu wrote:

I'm really trying to find your point in all thiese rhetorical questions.

Yeah, I'm with this guy. onelongsong, I can't follow any of your thinking/rationales. Either you are full of shit, or I just smoked the best weed ever. Maybe a little of both.

prism

onelongsong wrote:

those profits went into medical research to save your sorry ass. not like someone like bill gates who uses the money for mansions and fancy cars. those profits help abused and homeless children and the handicapped who cannot help themselves.those profits go to buy land forever dedicated to wildlife and wildlife only. i take nothing for myself. i live a simple life dedicated to the enviornment and i fund it with money from the people destroying it.

getting defensive about not giving your employees decent wages or benefits by saying that all that money instead goes to help abused and homeless children...oh please I believe that as much as i believe that eating buffalo meat has medical benefits. (and it most certainly isn't saving my vegetarian ass) lets see a link to that study. that you already said you took a government grant for. you know, the one where you claim that eating grass-fed buffalos lowers bad cholesterol

prism

prism wrote:

1....2....3....BULLSHIT!


once again, when you're making shit up you might want to inform google.

sorry I got that wrong, it should say 1....2....3....BUFFALOSHIT!


psst....you still need to inform google