Why did the whiteness thread get shut?

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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,609
    amen. does anyone realize what it costs us because businesses had to set up bilingualy? for example; when you go to the social security website; you can choose spanish and it takes you to a spanish website. so the government has to build and maintain 2 different websites. other companies can pass those cost to us; the consumer. how is that fair? 1 group of people refuse to learn english and we pay for it. if we're going to be fair and equal; there should be a website for every language as people from every country immigrate here.

    But no one complains when spanish-speaking people spend their money at businesses, who, in turn, pay taxes on their profits.

    I have never seen a business turn-down a sale from someone who didn't speak English!
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,609
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude, I wasn't around 40 years ago, I barely remember Rodney King. I was just a kid. How the fuck would I want that to change when it's already changed?

    I want the system to be egalitarian, that's it.

    I am not saying you were around. Future generations are handed down good and bad legacies, and racsim is a bad legacy that we must deal with.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,609
    so how is simply turning it around helping anything?

    It may give those who feel they are victims of the past a sense of closure, and then, we can all hopefully move on as one.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,609
    that's really a personal question. i respect someone that can pull themselves up from there but i'd never ask them to talk about it.

    well, I chose to ask, and Mr. Anhimus was gracious enough to answer.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I am not saying you were around. Future generations are handed down good and bad legacies, and racsim is a bad legacy that we must deal with.

    Why are we handing down these legacies?

    Yea, my legacy as a racist, sexist oppresor. I don't particularly want that legacy. Nor do I care for my family history in which my family was murdered and run out of Europe. I just leave it alone. It's water under the bridge.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    It may give those who feel they are victims of the past a sense of closure, and then, we can all hopefully move on as one.

    What would give a sense of closure?$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    ryan198 wrote:
    anhimus, I agree with you that their are poor white people, I was one, and unfortunately you are dealing with that yourself right now. At the same time, however, there does exist a dispraportionate level of minorities that live in poverty, and as such race, class, gender, and sexuality must be considered together, not seperate even when we are looking at individual situations.

    dude; walk into any hospital and you'll find more minority doctors than whites. same with courtrooms. blacks have thier black television channels but try to start a channel for whites and the shit will fly. minorities have the oppertunity and financial backing to succed if they're willing to work. i was born poor and worked my way up without special treatment.
  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    But no one complains when spanish-speaking people spend their money at businesses, who, in turn, pay taxes on their profits.

    I have never seen a business turn-down a sale from someone who didn't speak English!


    English is the only way to order at Geno’s Steaks

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/jun/09/english_only_way_order_genos_steaks/

    By Patrick Walters - Associated Press Writer

    Friday, June 9, 2006

    Philadelphia — Bistec con queso? Not at Geno’s Steaks.

    An English-only ordering policy has thrust one of Philadelphia’s best-known cheesesteak joints into the national immigration debate.

    Situated in a South Philadelphia immigrant neighborhood, Geno’s — which together with its chief rival, Pat’s King of Steaks, forms the epicenter of an area described as “ground zero for cheesesteaks” — has posted small signs telling customers, “This Is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING ‘SPEAK ENGLISH.”’

    “They don’t know how lucky they are. All we’re asking them to do is learn the English language,” said Geno’s owner Joseph Vento, 66. “We’re out to help these people, but they’ve got to help themselves, too.”

    Vento, whose grandparents struggled to learn English after immigrating from Sicily in the 1920s, said he posted the sign about six months ago amid concerns over immigration reform and the increasing number of customers who could not order in English when they wanted Philly’s gooey, greasy specialty — fried steak, sliced or chopped, in a long roll, with cheese and fried onions.

    The traditionally Italian community near Geno’s has become more diverse over the decades. Immigrants from Asia and Latin America have moved in, joining longtime residents and young professionals seeking reasonably priced rowhouses. In the past 10 years, an estimated 15,000 to 20,000 Mexican immigrants — many of them here illegally, community leaders say — have settled in South Philly.

    Vento said his staff is glad to help non-native speakers order in English and has never turned someone away because of a language barrier.

    But the policy has “really upset a lot of a people,” said Brad Baldia of Day Without An Immigrant, a coalition of immigrant groups. “For some people, I think we’re just going to say, ‘Le gusta Pat’s.”’

    Juntos, a Hispanic neighborhood organization, said it plans to send people to Geno’s to try to order in Spanish and may pursue court action, depending on what happens.

    “His grandparents encountered the same racism and the same xenophobia,” said Peter Bloom, the group’s director. “Why would he begin that process over again?”
    "If no one sees you, you're not here at all"
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Why are we handing down these legacies?

    Yea, my legacy as a racist, sexist oppresor. I don't particularly want that legacy. Nor do I care for my family history in which my family was murdered and run out of Europe. I just leave it alone. It's water under the bridge.

    as long as we're being blamed for being racists; let's give them what they expect. we're doing the time so may as well do the crime.
  • Ask any successful person of any race today why they are successful. I can guarantee they will tell you it was definitely not from openly playing the race card outlook towards others.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    dude; walk into any hospital and you'll find more minority doctors than whites. same with courtrooms. blacks have thier black television channels but try to start a channel for whites and the shit will fly. minorities have the oppertunity and financial backing to succed if they're willing to work. i was born poor and worked my way up without special treatment.

    but weren't your major television networks(ABC NBC CBS CNN et al.) started by whitey?
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  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    dude; walk into any hospital and you'll find more minority doctors than whites. same with courtrooms. blacks have thier black television channels but try to start a channel for whites and the shit will fly. minorities have the oppertunity and financial backing to succed if they're willing to work. i was born poor and worked my way up without special treatment.
    wait there's no television for white people? I thought that was ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, TBS, TNT, the Shopping Network, MTV, VH1, CMT
  • lol...here we go again....have fun spinning your wheels...

    Things to see and do...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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    ( o.O)
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  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Ask any successful person of any race today why they are successful. I can guarantee they will tell you it was definitely not from openly playing the race card outlook towards others.
    i never realized that race as a game, where you had a card that you "played". Its to my understanding that 'race' (however real 'race' is) is a historical, and social construct that has defined power relations for years, and it is a part of the context of any situation.
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    I wish I was a mixed person, that would be tits. I could go to rodeos and picnics during the day, then speak ebonics and chill with my homies by night. Yesss...

    EDIT: Actually, I spoke too soon. That would suck. If I was half-black and half-white, the whites would hate my blackness and the blacks would hate my whiteness. Damn, I thought I really had a great idea there.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    as long as we're being blamed for being racists; let's give them what they expect. we're doing the time so may as well do the crime.

    It sounds tempting, but really I only have a problem with the myopia that we see around here and on media sometimes like Kambon. Besides that I gots no problems.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    It sounds tempting, but really I only have a problem with the myopia that we see around here and on media sometimes like Kambon. Besides that I gots no problems.

    Sorry I just love this song...had to post it. Hilarious.

    Eddie Murphy sings kill the white people on SNL from the mid 80's. I first saw this when it originally aired on TV....

    hang in there until the chorus kicks in....oh man :D

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/killwhitepeople
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Sorry I just love this song...had to post it. Hilarious.

    Eddie Murphy sings kill the white people on SNL from the mid 80's. I first saw this when it originally aired on TV....

    hang in there until the chorus kicks in....oh man :D

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/killwhitepeople

    Haha, thanks for that!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Sorry I just love this song...had to post it. Hilarious.

    Eddie Murphy sings kill the white people on SNL from the mid 80's. I first saw this when it originally aired on TV....

    hang in there until the chorus kicks in....oh man :D

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/killwhitepeople

    You'll probably like these too, they are in jest of course.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LntLm3-7dvo
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=rrtpOTiihCg
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yZlUg8fqOvo
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    Sorry I just love this song...had to post it. Hilarious.

    Eddie Murphy sings kill the white people on SNL from the mid 80's. I first saw this when it originally aired on TV....

    hang in there until the chorus kicks in....oh man :D

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/killwhitepeople


    Funniest SNL evah.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:

    lol...those guys are hilarious
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Judge me not by the color of my skin but the content of my character
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6--uJptNUc
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Alex_Coe wrote:
    Funniest SNL evah.

    Back when SNL was on fire....I just realized that skit's over 20 years old!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Back when SNL was on fire....I just realized that skit's over 20 years old!

    this one is older and still the best.........:)
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    It may give those who feel they are victims of the past a sense of closure, and then, we can all hopefully move on as one.

    oh i see. so to truly eradicate slavery, we have to enslave whites and make blacks the rulers, pay reparations, and allow black racism to go unchecked... then we'll be even?

    that's the dumbest thing i've ever read.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    JD Sal wrote:
    “His grandparents encountered the same racism and the same xenophobia,” said Peter Bloom, the group’s director. “Why would he begin that process over again?”

    becos his grandparents weren't too fucking lazy, apathetic, and insular to learn english.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Ahnimus wrote:

    i want to nail that first chick.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    i want to nail that first chick.

    Those are guys.

    But I'd nail both of those chicks from the other post. Something about Sakiimi... she's hot! Smart! and single according to one of her vids.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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