If the NY Times were to report D-Day today:
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June 6, 1944. -NORMANDY- Three hundred French civilians were killed and thousands more wounded today in the first hours of America's invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among women and children.
Most of the French casualties were the result of artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated and reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are dying for no reason," said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity. "Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler."
The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the species with extinction. A representative of Greenpeace said his organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but not surprised. "This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought, " said Christine Moanmore. "And it's all about corporate greed." Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows the President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp.
"Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune."
Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon, a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years. Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany.
Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at so-called "concentration camps" has been rumored but so far, remains unproven.
Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a public health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in advance," they said. "It's their mess and we don't intend to clean it up."
Most of the French casualties were the result of artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated and reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are dying for no reason," said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity. "Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler."
The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the species with extinction. A representative of Greenpeace said his organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but not surprised. "This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought, " said Christine Moanmore. "And it's all about corporate greed." Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows the President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp.
"Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune."
Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon, a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years. Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany.
Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at so-called "concentration camps" has been rumored but so far, remains unproven.
Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a public health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in advance," they said. "It's their mess and we don't intend to clean it up."
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It's the 63rd birthday of D-Day today.0
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Drew, I'm sorry, but I didn't get past the second paragraph of this utter shit. There are a few things to remember:
1. Hitler wasn't the soverign ruler of France.
2. Hitler's power in France wasn't secured by American involvement and support for fifteen years prior to D-day.
3. Hitler isn't Saddam Hussein anymore than he's George W. Bush.
I could write an article similar to this, only casting Iraq as France, the U.S. as Germany, Britian as Italy, and the insurgents as the French underground - but I've long since realized that the axiom "Mention Hitler and you Lose the Argument" is true.
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I have to disagree with you. WWII was a war of necessity. We where attacked by Japan and had germany declare war on us. We where not the aggressors in that case. We may have aided England with supplies and weapons prior to our involvment in the war but it took acts of aggression from two countries for us to use military force.
Our current day situation is far from the same senerio. We are engaged in an unpopular and extremely unnecessary war with a country who posed no threat to the world. While during WWII we where seen as one oof the saviors of Europe and Asia. Now we are seen as a destabilizing force in the Middle East. This is not a reflection on our troops but our acts back then where seen as honorable, now our actions are farthest from.
So taking this into consideration the way the war is covered will be differently because the motive behind the wars are different. The honorable cause that was WWII was covered as such. While the disgrace that is the invasion of Iraq will be protrayed as such in the media and rightfully so."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
Anyone who thinks that must be mentally ill.. not even close to World War 2.RainDog wrote:Reminder: The Iraq War Is Not World War II.
There's a HUGE difference between sovereign nations attacking/taking over the world and group of thugs performing terror attacks.0 -
So instead of concentration camps they build walls around people now. At least that is the jist I get from this funny article.You've changed your place in this world!0
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Drew263 wrote:June 6, 1944. -NORMANDY- Three hundred French civilians were killed and thousands more wounded today in the first hours of America's invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among women and children.
Most of the French casualties were the result of artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated and reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are dying for no reason," said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity. "Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler."
The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the species with extinction. A representative of Greenpeace said his organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but not surprised. "This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought, " said Christine Moanmore. "And it's all about corporate greed." Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows the President Roosevelt has ties to big beer," said Pierre LeWimp.
"Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune."
Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon, a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years. Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany.
Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at so-called "concentration camps" has been rumored but so far, remains unproven.
Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a public health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in advance," they said. "It's their mess and we don't intend to clean it up."
if you put both feet on the chair and rock it...its much easier.
so lammmmmmmmmmme and by the way....who exactly are you against....??? lol0 -
I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.0
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LikeAnOcean wrote:Anyone who thinks that must be mentally ill.. not even close to World War 2.
There's a HUGE difference between sovereign nations attacking/taking over the world and group of thugs performing terror attacks.
The only thing wrong with your statment is the mention of iraq performing terrorist attacks.Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
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mammasan wrote:I have to disagree with you. WWII was a war of necessity.
careful... i was surprised to learn thst there is absolutely no such thing. Check some of the Kucinich threads..."When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."0 -
cornnifer wrote:mammasan wrote:I have to disagree with you. WWII was a war of necessity.
careful... i was surprised to learn thst there is absolutely no such thing. Check some of the Kucinich threads...
nobody wrote that ww2 was not necessary ... well, not when i was discussing the topic ...
sigh ... it is what it is i guess ...0 -
RainDog wrote:Drew, I'm sorry, but I didn't get past the second paragraph of this utter shit. There are a few things to remember:
1. Hitler wasn't the soverign ruler of France.
2. Hitler's power in France wasn't secured by American involvement and support for fifteen years prior to D-day.
3. Hitler isn't Saddam Hussein anymore than he's George W. Bush.
I could write an article similar to this, only casting Iraq as France, the U.S. as Germany, Britian as Italy, and the insurgents as the French underground - but I've long since realized that the axiom "Mention Hitler and you Lose the Argument" is true.
Reminder: The Iraq War Is Not World War II.
Hey RainDog, I'm sorry but Drew in no way shape or form related this article to Iraq. It is solely about the leftist, liberal views of the paper and how they come across through it's reporting...
Here's another case in point, the four guys they arrested for trying to blow up JFK airport was reported on page 34 of the the NYT this week. If that doesn't say something about the paper, I don't know what does.0 -
cornnifer wrote:mammasan wrote:I have to disagree with you. WWII was a war of necessity.
careful... i was surprised to learn thst there is absolutely no such thing. Check some of the Kucinich threads...
Well I would have to disagree with anyone who made that statement. While there was no need for Germany or Japan to engage in aggressive acts of war it was in fact necessary to stop then from carry out their plans of conquest."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:cornnifer wrote:mammasan wrote:I have to disagree with you. WWII was a war of necessity.
Well I would have to disagree with anyone who made that statement. While there was no need for Germany or Japan to engage in aggressive acts of war it was in fact necessary to stop then from carry out their plans of conquest.
It blows my mind that there are people who actually disagree with your last statement... most of all a guy who is running for president. I can hardly believe that is actually true!0 -
NCfan wrote:
Well that may be because there are people who believe that war is not a necessary and to a certain extent they are correct, but if you have one group of people or country engaging in aggressive hostile actions towards another group or country then the right to defend oneself is a necessity. people like Kucinich fail to see that part of the equation. Either that or they live in a complete fantasy world where people like Hitler don't exist."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
NCfan wrote:Hey RainDog, I'm sorry but Drew in no way shape or form related this article to Iraq. It is solely about the leftist, liberal views of the paper and how they come across through it's reporting...
Here's another case in point, the four guys they arrested for trying to blow up JFK airport was reported on page 34 of the the NYT this week. If that doesn't say something about the paper, I don't know what does.
oh please. do you know what our mayor (mike bloomberg-R) said to us in response to the jfk plot story?
"Stop worrying. Get a life."
that made me smile. and also really like him, for at least a moment.
edit: OH SNAP! i need to pay tribute to the entire, correct quote:
"There are lots of threats to you in the world. There's the threat of a heart attack for genetic reasons. You can't sit there and worry about everything. Get a life," he said.
thanks mike!if you wanna be a friend of mine
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i guess this is how the misinformation starts ...
i don't think kucinich said ww2 was not necessary ... nor did anyone in the thread i was in ... but feel free to continue to believe what you want ...0 -
polaris wrote:i guess this is how the misinformation starts ...
i don't think kucinich said ww2 was not necessary ... nor did anyone in the thread i was in ... but feel free to continue to believe what you want ...
Well I haven't read the thread so I will take your word for it."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
VictoryGin wrote:oh please. do you know what our mayor (mike bloomberg-R) said to us in response to the jfk plot story?
"Stop worrying. Get a life."
that made me smile. and also really like him, for at least a moment.
That's because the whole plot was retarded. The media blew this way out of proportion. I was reading the Star Ledger and in an article it mentioned that the pipeline system has a fail safe mechanism to prevent the pipes from blowing up if something where to happen the depot at either JFK Airport or Linden, NJ."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
mammasan wrote:That's because the whole plot was retarded. The media blew this way out of proportion. I was reading the Star Ledger and in an article it mentioned that the pipeline system has a fail safe mechanism to prevent the pipes from blowing up if something where to happen the depot at either JFK Airport or Linden, NJ.
oh totally. and thank god mike isn't being like rudy who grabs onto anything, like this, to show how bad terrorism is in the world today and why we need to elect him.
i added the full quote above
if you wanna be a friend of mine
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Why, you're right. It is an article written in the vacuum of space centuries ago and transported here by a superior race of aliens. The only reason we're just now reading it is because it took so long to get here. Context, after all, is meaningless.NCfan wrote:Hey RainDog, I'm sorry but Drew in no way shape or form related this article to Iraq. It is solely about the leftist, liberal views of the paper and how they come across through it's reporting...
Though I haven't read it, to me it says that the paper isn't prone to engaging in terrorist related fear mongering. The JFK airport plot was so hopelessly ridiculous that I'm surprised it made the news at all. You cannot - I repeat, cannot blow-up jet fuel in the way the plotters intended. It's as realistic as the mad dreams of a man who thinks he can soar through the clouds by taping a butterfly to his forehead.NCfan wrote:Here's another case in point, the four guys they arrested for trying to blow up JFK airport was reported on page 34 of the the NYT this week. If that doesn't say something about the paper, I don't know what does.0
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