Hillary sums it up...

Staceb10

cincybearcat wrote:

hey Stacey!!

I agree...it's not his time. But....it is the right political climate for a Dem to win the presidency, so maybe he can overcome his shortcomings. I don;t think he could, but I would not betmy house on it.

Hey Cincy!


I think the right Dem could definitely win. I just think it'll be hard for him to win even in this political climate. He's black and even though that shouldn't matter we all know it does and again, he's got little experience. I don't think he can't ever run but I just don't know if 08 is the best timing.

Jeanwah

Staceb10 wrote:

I just think it'll be hard for him to win even in this political climate. He's black and even though that shouldn't matter we all know it does and again, he's got little experience. I don't think he can't ever run but I just don't know if 08 is the best timing.

So just because he's Black means he's at a disadvantage, huh? We just elected a woman as the Speaker and you're going to say that because a black dem w/ "not enough experience" is running, that it won't happen? That kind of discrimination is disgusting. You've obviously forgotten about prestigious men such as Malcom X and Martin Luther King, Jr.

cincybearcat

Jeanwah wrote:

I should point out here that Hillary is continuing her Senate seat here in NY, and has won by a landslide. But that doesn't really matter to her haters out there, you know the ones...those who have no idea of all the things she's accomplishing here in NY.

Is it official???? Did she pay the most $ per vote in this election?

I hope she is the Dems candidate...I really hope she is...

Staceb10

Jeanwah wrote:

So just because he's Black means he's at a disadvantage, huh? We just elected a woman as the Speaker and you're going to say that because a black dem w/ "not enough experience" is running, that it won't happen? That kind of discrimination is disgusting. You've obviously forgotten about prestigious men such as Malcom X and Martin Luther King, Jr.

I didn't say I agreed with it but yes that puts him at a disadvantage. I think a Black man can be president. I just don't think the majority of the country is going to elect one just yet. MLK presitigious..yep. Malcolm X.. I can't agree with that one. Either way, that doesn't mean that Obama is qualified to be President. I don't think that he could win just yet even if he was white. Maybe 2012 but not 2008.

Androgynous Mind

Jeanwah wrote:

Now, that's a dream ticket.
Hillary's great. And for all you Hillary haters, you obviously don't live in NY, where she happens to already be our Senator and is doing a great job.

I live in this state and i think she sucks

gue_barium

zstillings wrote:

Obama will have to raise at least 230 million to compete with Hillary in the primary. After this Senate race and with the fundraising draw that she already has, he would have to be personally wealthy to compete.

Being the media darling that he already is, I don't know that this figure is necessarily accurate.

SweetHarmonics

If money was the deciding factor then John Kerry would be the president and the GOP would still control Congress. Obama's eloquence and charisma are worth more than every dollar Hillary has raised.

This thread is awful.

Jeanwah

Androgynous Mind wrote:

I live in this state and i think she sucks

You're among the few then, seeing that she won again with a 74% margin.

Androgynous Mind

Jeanwah wrote:

You're among the few then, seeing that she won again with a 74% margin.

You must be from downstate

Jeanwah

Androgynous Mind wrote:

You must be from downstate

No, I'm not actually!

Androgynous Mind

Jeanwah wrote:

No, I'm not actually!

Wow, I wouldn't have guess otherwise.