A woman and a minority on the ticket in 08... for some reason I don't think it would work... I wish it could but it can't...
The right woman and minority ticket should be able to garner a significant vote. I'd like to hope that most free thinkers care more about issues/agenda than gender/skin color. But Hillary isn't part of that ticket. She would get almost no Rep vote, and only a portion of the Dem vote. Many Democrats, as Hippimom pointed out, have an issue with her hawkish voting record, and Republicans uniformily label her "ultra-liberal."
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I should point out here that Hillary is continuing her Senate seat here in NY, and has won by a landslide. But that doesn't really matter to her haters out there, you know the ones...those who have no idea of all the things she's accomplishing here in NY.
So the Dems are going to put a minority with little experience with the name BARACK OBAMA up for President? lmao... why even bother with an election.
Does anyone really think our country is going to elect him at this stage? He's been a Senator for what... not even 2 years? 4 by election time?
hey Stacey!!
I agree...it's not his time. But....it is the right political climate for a Dem to win the presidency, so maybe he can overcome his shortcomings. I don;t think he could, but I would not betmy house on it.
I agree...it's not his time. But....it is the right political climate for a Dem to win the presidency, so maybe he can overcome his shortcomings. I don;t think he could, but I would not betmy house on it.
Hey Cincy!
I think the right Dem could definitely win. I just think it'll be hard for him to win even in this political climate. He's black and even though that shouldn't matter we all know it does and again, he's got little experience. I don't think he can't ever run but I just don't know if 08 is the best timing.
I just think it'll be hard for him to win even in this political climate. He's black and even though that shouldn't matter we all know it does and again, he's got little experience. I don't think he can't ever run but I just don't know if 08 is the best timing.
So just because he's Black means he's at a disadvantage, huh? We just elected a woman as the Speaker and you're going to say that because a black dem w/ "not enough experience" is running, that it won't happen? That kind of discrimination is disgusting. You've obviously forgotten about prestigious men such as Malcom X and Martin Luther King, Jr.
I should point out here that Hillary is continuing her Senate seat here in NY, and has won by a landslide. But that doesn't really matter to her haters out there, you know the ones...those who have no idea of all the things she's accomplishing here in NY.
Is it official???? Did she pay the most $ per vote in this election?
I hope she is the Dems candidate...I really hope she is...
So just because he's Black means he's at a disadvantage, huh? We just elected a woman as the Speaker and you're going to say that because a black dem w/ "not enough experience" is running, that it won't happen? That kind of discrimination is disgusting. You've obviously forgotten about prestigious men such as Malcom X and Martin Luther King, Jr.
I didn't say I agreed with it but yes that puts him at a disadvantage. I think a Black man can be president. I just don't think the majority of the country is going to elect one just yet. MLK presitigious..yep. Malcolm X.. I can't agree with that one. Either way, that doesn't mean that Obama is qualified to be President. I don't think that he could win just yet even if he was white. Maybe 2012 but not 2008.
Now, that's a dream ticket.
Hillary's great. And for all you Hillary haters, you obviously don't live in NY, where she happens to already be our Senator and is doing a great job.
Obama will have to raise at least 230 million to compete with Hillary in the primary. After this Senate race and with the fundraising draw that she already has, he would have to be personally wealthy to compete.
Being the media darling that he already is, I don't know that this figure is necessarily accurate.
If money was the deciding factor then John Kerry would be the president and the GOP would still control Congress. Obama's eloquence and charisma are worth more than every dollar Hillary has raised.
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Stop pretending that's relevant
so it shoulda been ok with hillary if the woman had been skinnier?
he's the first democratic candidate with any charisma since clinton
Nothing, just like Georgie boy did as governor in this state.
The right woman and minority ticket should be able to garner a significant vote. I'd like to hope that most free thinkers care more about issues/agenda than gender/skin color. But Hillary isn't part of that ticket. She would get almost no Rep vote, and only a portion of the Dem vote. Many Democrats, as Hippimom pointed out, have an issue with her hawkish voting record, and Republicans uniformily label her "ultra-liberal."
ZING!
Does anyone really think our country is going to elect him at this stage? He's been a Senator for what... not even 2 years? 4 by election time?
hey Stacey!!
I agree...it's not his time. But....it is the right political climate for a Dem to win the presidency, so maybe he can overcome his shortcomings. I don;t think he could, but I would not betmy house on it.
Hey Cincy!
I think the right Dem could definitely win. I just think it'll be hard for him to win even in this political climate. He's black and even though that shouldn't matter we all know it does and again, he's got little experience. I don't think he can't ever run but I just don't know if 08 is the best timing.
So just because he's Black means he's at a disadvantage, huh? We just elected a woman as the Speaker and you're going to say that because a black dem w/ "not enough experience" is running, that it won't happen? That kind of discrimination is disgusting. You've obviously forgotten about prestigious men such as Malcom X and Martin Luther King, Jr.
Is it official???? Did she pay the most $ per vote in this election?
I hope she is the Dems candidate...I really hope she is...
I didn't say I agreed with it but yes that puts him at a disadvantage. I think a Black man can be president. I just don't think the majority of the country is going to elect one just yet. MLK presitigious..yep. Malcolm X.. I can't agree with that one. Either way, that doesn't mean that Obama is qualified to be President. I don't think that he could win just yet even if he was white. Maybe 2012 but not 2008.
I live in this state and i think she sucks
Being the media darling that he already is, I don't know that this figure is necessarily accurate.
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This thread is awful.
You're among the few then, seeing that she won again with a 74% margin.
You must be from downstate
Wow, I wouldn't have guess otherwise.