Hillary sums it up...

farfromglorified
farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
"I voted for change, except for me" - Hillary Clinton
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    lmao.

    Hilary's presidency shot just took it's last breath with Obama thinking about running. Let's all celebrate together. A Bi-partisan 'fuck you, hillary' ;)
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    what if hillary ran WITH obama?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    gluten919 wrote:
    what if hillary ran WITH obama?

    What could she possibly have to offer Obama?
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    gluten919 wrote:
    what if hillary ran WITH obama?
    then obama won't have a chance.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



    Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!

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  • mwachsman
    mwachsman Posts: 474
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    lmao.

    Hilary's presidency shot just took it's last breath with Obama thinking about running. Let's all celebrate together. A Bi-partisan 'fuck you, hillary' ;)

    Fuck you Hillary! Wow, that felt great. Thanks.
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  • rearviewmiror
    rearviewmiror Posts: 894
    Say not to Hillary. She'll be a much better Senator than Pres.

    The democrats would get killed with her on a national ballot.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    mwachsman wrote:
    Fuck you Hillary! Wow, that felt great. Thanks.
    :D
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    farfromglorified wrote:
    What could she possibly have to offer Obama?

    Money.
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    farfromglorified wrote:
    What could she possibly have to offer Obama?


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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    zstillings wrote:
    Money.

    I doubt that will be a concern for Obama. And that money would come with a massive pricetag -- the huge political liability that is Hillary Clinton.

    Obama would be best served with a very moderate relatively unknown VP candidate.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I doubt that will be a concern for Obama. And that money would come with a massive pricetag -- the huge political liability that is Hillary Clinton.

    Obama would be best served with a very moderate relatively unknown VP candidate.

    Obama will have to raise at least 230 million to compete with Hillary in the primary. After this Senate race and with the fundraising draw that she already has, he would have to be personally wealthy to compete.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    zstillings wrote:
    Obama will have to raise at least 230 million to compete with Hillary in the primary. After this Senate race and with the fundraising draw that she already has, he would have to be personally wealthy to compete.
    All the more reason to find a way of taking money out of politics. It shouldn't be "I have the most money so I win." Dollars aren't votes.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    RainDog wrote:
    All the more reason to find a way of taking money out of politics. It shouldn't be "I have the most money so I win." Dollars aren't votes.

    If you take the money out of politics as it is being tried, you will wind up with only the wealthy candidates able to compete.
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    RainDog wrote:
    Dollars aren't votes.

    in theory. but i agree i wish we could take money out of politics.
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    zstillings wrote:
    If you take the money out of politics as it is being tried, you will wind up with only the wealthy candidates able to compete.
    Public financing would be a good way to go - provided there was a law stating that candidates couldn't spend their own money.

    It's a difficult situation, and there's no one solution (or two or three); but it's something that needs to be addressed. Hell, it's probably half the reason so many people are disenchanted with our political process.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    RainDog wrote:
    All the more reason to find a way of taking money out of politics. It shouldn't be "I have the most money so I win." Dollars aren't votes.

    Dollars will be votes only for as long as the American public is willing to auction off their votes. Stop blaming the money.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Dollars will be votes only for as long as the American public is willing to auction off their votes. Stop blaming the money.
    Profound. You know, I'm perfectly capable of "blaming" more than one thing at a time.

    Money has poisoned politics - and to show I'm fair, I'll say politicians and voters are toxic themselves. People are disenchanted with the process, and money has a lot to do with it; and you can't convince the 150 million + eligible members of our population that "it'll all be O.K. if you just go out and vote." Because it never is - and it furthers the disenchantment. Take the money out and, hey, maybe there's more incentive.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Raindog wrote:
    People are disenchanted with the process, and money has a lot to do with it; and you can't convince the 150 million + eligible members of our population that "it'll all be O.K. if you just go out and vote."

    I'm glad I can't convince them of that, because that would be a total lie.
    Because it never is - and it furthers the disenchantment. Take the money out and, hey, maybe there's more incentive.

    How?
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    gluten919 wrote:
    what if hillary ran WITH obama?
    Now, that's a dream ticket.
    Hillary's great. And for all you Hillary haters, you obviously don't live in NY, where she happens to already be our Senator and is doing a great job.
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Now, that's a dream ticket.
    Hillary's great. And for all you Hillary haters, you obviously don't live in NY, where she happens to already be our Senator and is doing a great job.

    that should tell you that everyone who doesn't like her is outside of that state...it'll be tough to win carrying only new york
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