Hillary sums it up...
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"I voted for change, except for me" - Hillary Clinton
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Hilary's presidency shot just took it's last breath with Obama thinking about running. Let's all celebrate together. A Bi-partisan 'fuck you, hillary'
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
What could she possibly have to offer Obama?
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
Fuck you Hillary! Wow, that felt great. Thanks.
"Hey, if God didn’t want me to wear it so much, he wouldn’t have made them rock so hard."
The democrats would get killed with her on a national ballot.
Money.
oral sex from a white chick.
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I doubt that will be a concern for Obama. And that money would come with a massive pricetag -- the huge political liability that is Hillary Clinton.
Obama would be best served with a very moderate relatively unknown VP candidate.
Obama will have to raise at least 230 million to compete with Hillary in the primary. After this Senate race and with the fundraising draw that she already has, he would have to be personally wealthy to compete.
If you take the money out of politics as it is being tried, you will wind up with only the wealthy candidates able to compete.
in theory. but i agree i wish we could take money out of politics.
It's a difficult situation, and there's no one solution (or two or three); but it's something that needs to be addressed. Hell, it's probably half the reason so many people are disenchanted with our political process.
Dollars will be votes only for as long as the American public is willing to auction off their votes. Stop blaming the money.
Money has poisoned politics - and to show I'm fair, I'll say politicians and voters are toxic themselves. People are disenchanted with the process, and money has a lot to do with it; and you can't convince the 150 million + eligible members of our population that "it'll all be O.K. if you just go out and vote." Because it never is - and it furthers the disenchantment. Take the money out and, hey, maybe there's more incentive.
I'm glad I can't convince them of that, because that would be a total lie.
How?
Hillary's great. And for all you Hillary haters, you obviously don't live in NY, where she happens to already be our Senator and is doing a great job.
that should tell you that everyone who doesn't like her is outside of that state...it'll be tough to win carrying only new york
How can women, especially women with a feminist idelogue vote for Hillary.....THEY CANT.
Vote republican
I am liberal, I used to love Hillary, and I think she is a perfect leader in the Senate. PLEASE GOD keep her away from the National Ticket.
Hillary lost me forever when she went off about video games and their effects, I instantly understood why those that dont like her take hate to a new level.
NO and NEVER for Hillary.
By completely removing the argument that "the richest guy always wins."
uh yeah they can when you're using that reasoning. i think it's pretty stupid to say that feminists can't vote for hillary because her husband cheated on her. it was her choice to stay with him so people should honor that. and how the hell does that affect her political policy? that's a weak reason to not vote for a person.
please. and do you have an idea of how many people cheat? what a joke.
cross the river to the eastside
hillary is doing a lot of work here, which is one reason i hope she doesn't run for pres in 08. she loves working with policy, so i'd hope she could take a senate leadership position. becoming president would remove her from really getting into legislation.
cross the river to the eastside
See, that's the thing. The only barrier to underfunded candidates now is the voters themselves who, as you say, would vote in a more "money neutral environment".
But that argument isn't true today.
I do hope that Hillary doesn't run. About 40% of the population would never vote for her under any circumstances, and that doesn't leave enough swing voters for her to win in the general election.
Personally, if she does run I won't vote for her because I think she's aided and abetted this administration with regards to Iraq. My decision certainly wouldn't have anything to do with Bill's extracurricular activities, which don't interest me a bit.
Bravo!
Ya know, you're probably right about keeping her in Senate, she's at the right level now. Anything larger would get her less involved. Plus, I don't really think she's got a great chance of winning presidency. It's really too bad.