The Obama Presidency Could This Signal the Beginning of the End...

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  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    jeffbr wrote:
    The problem is that AA doesn't do that, really (even by your own admission). I don't claim "we're all even now", but the problems that need to be addressed are issues you've covered which occur before AA should even be a factor. Spend more time working on inner-city education and training. Don't excuse the lack of education and/or training, and simply accept someone to an institution where you've just set them up for failure.
    so let me get this straight, you just want to overlook entire generations of individuals with the intellectual ability but lack of educational training b/c of white upper-class oppression? of course our broken skool systems and poor funding for poor children are problems that ultimately need to be fixed, BUT what do you do for the people who had to come through that? Essentially, it is you going "sorry guys...you got fucked, and you will stay fucked because white people need to live".
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    ryan198 wrote:
    so let me get this straight, you just want to overlook entire generations of individuals with the intellectual ability but lack of educational training b/c of white upper-class oppression? of course our broken skool systems and poor funding for poor children are problems that ultimately need to be fixed, BUT what do you do for the people who had to come through that? Essentially, it is you going "sorry guys...you got fucked, and you will stay fucked because white people need to live".

    You want to perpetuate an immoral, bankrupt system, I want to move on. Either way people are getting screwed. At least with my plan there's an end.

    You act as if your plan has no victims.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    jeffbr wrote:
    You want to perpetuate an immoral, bankrupt system, I want to move on. Either way people are getting screwed. At least with my plan there's an end.

    You act as if your plan has no victims.
    what end? it's not like you can make people stop being racist just b/c you say "stop being racist". i guess i don't get your logic. i never said there weren't "victims" in AA, but, please like white people didn't have it easy getting to where they get. that's something white people don't like to hear is that, even though they did work hard, they kinda had it easy compared to other types of identity.

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