On your death bed...

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saveuplife wrote:

I'll be thinking about religion/God/the afterlife. I'll be thinking about my family. I'll be thinking about my friends. I'll reflect on my life, and how good it has been.

I don't think politics or work will enter my head at all. But, that's just me.

Congrats to those of you who are convinced you will be thinking about politics on your death bed. Not my cup of tea to go out thinking about politics, but good for you.

He was thinking about his FAMILY, politics effects his family. Life is not a movie.

know1

Gonzo1977 wrote:

So American's are at fault for the health care issues in this country? They're just not saving enough money?

Hmmm.Okay.
I didn't realize that.

I'll be sure to tell that to my mother who can't afford the "Treatment" that the insurance companies won't cover for her Cancer.

"Sorry Mom...You just didn't save enough money"

No - health insurance is primarily to blame for health care cost issues in this country.

People are to blame for leaving their relatives with big bills.

You jumped from one thing to another.

saveuplife

NMyTree wrote:

No, you didn't ask anyone what they would do.

You asked people if they would care at all about politics, on their deathbed.

You asked people what would be on their minds ...what they would be thinking and feeling; not what they would do or would be doing.

At best the disaster is in the poor manner you posed the question

within the context of the way you posed the question, Gonzo1977's answer was absolutely perfect and exactly within context.

Now, if you "meant " something else with it, you may want to re-word your question.

"On you're deathbed.... do you think you'll be thinking about politics?"

That was asking "you" (the reader of the question) what you would do. What's the need to debate here? You are making yourself look ridiculous.

Strangest Tribe

know1 wrote:

So why don't you start saving money now for that day so you won't stick them with it?

how well has this been working out lately? We've lost $25000 off our 401k in 3 weeks. Will we recover this before our death bed days? You know what they say about the best laid plans.

Open

know1 wrote:

No - health insurance is primarily to blame for health care cost issues in this country.

People are to blame for leaving their relatives with big bills.

You jumped from one thing to another.

Yeah, b/c i choose to get cancer and the bills that come with it.

meme

saveuplife wrote:

Way to make my attempt a non-political 'can't we all just get along' thread into a referendum on healthcare. Impressive.

Because some people end up in their death bed, and hence "can't just get along" because of their inability to pay for care. So yeah, they do think about politics and about the misguided decisions that put them in that place. And maybe you are too young and healthy to realize that.

saveuplife

Open wrote:

He was thinking about his FAMILY, politics effects his family. Life is not a movie.

Life is not a movie? Really?

You honestly think, when you are on your deathbed, you'll be thinking about politics? You'll be thinking about which CANDIDATE will win the upcoming election? You'll be thinking about what the Senate is voting on in the upcoming week? Come on. I don't think you are being sincere.

As is normally the case, people here just want to argue.

Gonzo1977

know1 wrote:

No - health insurance is primarily to blame for health care cost issues in this country.People are to blame for leaving their relatives with big bills. You jumped from one thing to another.

No Poor Health Insurance is In Concert with a Poor Health Care System.

You are putting a price tag on peoples life!!!

You mean to tell me that you can't see that there is something horrifically wrong with a system that fosters that mentality?

How can you blame somone because they can't afford their treatment? Because they develop Cancer?

It's a shitty deal to leave your family with debt because you got sick.

It has nothing to do with irresponsiblity. Nothing.

I hope to god I don't have to think about that when I'm dying.

But how could you not.

Open

saveuplife wrote:

Life is not a movie? Really?

You honestly think, when you are on your deathbed, you'll be thinking about politics? You'll be thinking about which CANDIDATE will win the upcoming election? You'll be thinking about what the Senate is voting on in the upcoming week? Come on. I don't think you are being sincere.

As is normally the case, people here just want to argue.

Politics is not an acute word. Specify next time..."Think you'll be thinking about the election on your deathbed" Cant read your mind.

know1

Gonzo1977 wrote:

No Poor Health Insurance is In Concert with a Poor Health Care System.

You are putting a price tag on peoples life!!!

You mean to tell me that you can't see that there is something horrifically wrong with a system that fosters that mentality?

How can you blame somone because they can't afford their treatment?

It's a shitty deal to leave your family with debt because you got sick. It has nothing to do with irresponsiblity. Nothing.

I'm saying that the health insurance industry is to blame for most of our healthcare cost problems in this country. I probably didn't make that very clear.

But....everyone's going to die. Why not try to deal with that reality in advance?

NMyTree

saveuplife wrote:

"On you're deathbed.... do you think you'll be thinking about politics?"

That was asking "you" (the reader of the question) what you would do. What's the need to debate here? You are making yourself look ridiculous.

Oh sheesh.

Dude, you posed the question poorly. Then you hopped all over Gonzo1977's case with a sarcastic remark. Because his response didn't jive with your intention.

And now you're shocked and disgusted because you're being taken to task on it? :rolleyes:


Get a grip.

Gonzo1977

know1 wrote:

I'm saying that the health insurance industry is to blame for most of our healthcare cost problems in this country. I probably didn't make that very clear.

But....everyone's going to die. Why not try to deal with that reality in advance?

I don't think that you are understanding that the health insurance industry is a product of the Health Care System in this country.

I don't think that you realize that the health insurance industry would not be able to operate the way they do if the health care system was reformed and prevented this blatant profit making off of sick people in desperate need of health care.

And as another poster commented, look at what has happend to our 401K's over the last month in a half. What happens when being responsible just isn't enough? That is becoming a dangerous reality.

saveuplife

NMyTree wrote:

Oh sheesh.

Dude, you posed the question poorly. Then you hopped all over Gonzo1977's case with a sarcastic remark. Because his response didn't jive with your intention.

And now you're shocked and disgusted because you're being taken to task on it? :rolleyes:


Get a grip.

You just want to argue. I'll get a grip when you get a job.

Pacomc79

Gonzo1977 wrote:

No Poor Health Insurance is In Concert with a Poor Health Care System.

You are putting a price tag on peoples life!!!

You mean to tell me that you can't see that there is something horrifically wrong with a system that fosters that mentality?

How can you blame somone because they can't afford their treatment? Because they develop Cancer?

It's a shitty deal to leave your family with debt because you got sick.

It has nothing to do with irresponsiblity. Nothing.

I hope to god I don't have to think about that when I'm dying.

But how could you not.

It is a shitty deal to leave your family with debt, that's why people buy life insurance right?

If you're socialized you just put the entire debt on not just your family but the entire nation.

Nothing in this world is free.

Socialization simply shifts one ridiculous pile of money from one group to another. Neither group of people really give a shit about you or any other individual person. They care about themsleves first and foremost. So the best thing an individual can do for their family is to live debt free, buy life insurance and don't spend the last 3 weeks of thier life in a hospital.

If you're poor, your life is going to be simple and without many possessions, dosen't mean it can't be rich.

Socialized or not, the only people getting the truely best medical care are the wealthy and it will remain that way until the end of time. All the ism's in the world will never make the world a fair or equitable place.

QuestionAuthority

saveuplife wrote:

Life is not a movie? Really?

You honestly think, when you are on your deathbed, you'll be thinking about politics? You'll be thinking about which CANDIDATE will win the upcoming election? You'll be thinking about what the Senate is voting on in the upcoming week? Come on. I don't think you are being sincere.

As is normally the case, people here just want to argue.

What did you really expect with the question? REALLY?

Did you expect all of us here to join hands in harmony and realize that our political discourse really does not matter since we are all going to die and on our deathbed realize all the things in life that are important?

I am sorry.. but the reality of LIFE if that yes of course on your death bed you will be thinking of your life.. your family... but you cannot tell me that you will not at all be concerned with the OUTRAGEOUS cost that is most likely adding up with every pill that is being brought to you.. with every test they are running.. this is all bills/money that will affect your loved ones after you have passed.. and if you are fortunate to have saved for this very unfortunate event you are lucky, but do you really want all that you have saved up for going to pay for overpriced health care? I know having been in the hospital WITH insurance I know how quickly it adds up and diminishes one's savings.. so yes I think the THOUGHT of our government may just cross your mind.. sorry that is the reality of life.

Strangest Tribe

Ive followed my father and my grandfather with my choice of career path, (farming) so I can only relate to my grandfather's advice from his deathbed. I spent many weeks at my grandfather's side as he layed dying of cancer.

The bulk of our conversations involved the family business, who to trust, who to do business with, the enemies to keep close and the friends that could not be trusted. We discussed politics, finances, business decisions, and preparations for the future.

I guess the short answer to the OP's question would be..."it depends on the circumstances"

cincybearcat

dunkman wrote:

thankfully we have free health care in this country...

in reply to thread.. no, of course not.

No such thing as "free" health care.

Anyhow, I think I won't be thinking about politics, however, politics will have played a role in how happy I am when I get to my death bed, i.e. how my life went.

NMyTree

saveuplife wrote:

Life is not a movie? Really?

You honestly think, when you are on your deathbed, you'll be thinking about politics? You'll be thinking about which CANDIDATE will win the upcoming election? You'll be thinking about what the Senate is voting on in the upcoming week? Come on. I don't think you are being sincere.

As is normally the case, people here just want to argue.

No, several people have answered your question, within the context you posed the question. And some have answered your question in the context of what you "intended". So what's the problem? You're the one who wants to argue, right from the start of this tread. You're the one being confrontational. You're the one jumping on people's responses and insisting their responses are wrong.

Furthermore, who the fuck are you to tell people what they will be thinking on their deathbeds?

The question (and it's concept) at best is very subjective and simply based on conjecture.......or guessing. There are no absolute definitives.

And everyone....all people are different. What you might be thinking on your deathbed is soley a reflection of you. No two people think and believe exactly alike or in the same things. So what you think will be going through your head, has no relevence to what other people will have going through their head.

You're sitting in this thread trying to dictate and tell everyone what they will be or should be thinking on their deathbed. Have you lost you fucking mind?

Gonzo1977

saveuplife:

My response was based on what was on my mind at the moment.

I'm pretty sure that if things continue the way they do, that I'd be very worried about what my medical bills are going to cost my family.

It's unfortunate but true that even "death beds" cost money these days. I might as well die in 5 star hotel because it would probably be cheaper.

The reality is...I don't know when I'm going to die. All I can base my judgement on is what it would be like to die right now.

Right now...Leaving your family in debt because of medical costs is what happens all too often these days and it's the first thing I thought about.

Sorry you didn't like my answer.

But I think It's just as relavant and valid a thought as thinking about Angels,God, Heaven and Hell.

dunkman

cincybearcat wrote:

No such thing as "free" health care.

yes there is. i could leave school at 16 years of age. never work ever in a job, ever. then at age 45 i have to go to hospital for a blood transfusion... completely free. I wont have to pay a single penny. me personally i mean... i know others will have.

I know what you mean though... its how its described here in the UK... the NHS is free.