Palin's Speech

blacknapkins

Watched Palin's speech ... NOT impressed at all. All I heard was some blah, blah, blah about her family and some obnoxious slaps at the opposition, but nothing at all about how she and McCain plan to dig us out of the hole the current administration has dropped us in.

polaris

cincybearcat wrote:

Because it's not the stance that a lot of people disagree with, it's the execution.

Anyhow, this is exactly why McCain/Palin ahve a large mountain to climb here...they need to distance themselves from the poor decisions of the previous administration and show that they will be different.

The truth is, maybe they won't be different...but maybe they will...

again - why would the execution change? ... it's the same party - same people ...

in any case - it's taking away from my primary point which is that regardless of who is put up there and regardless of the history - the election will always be close in the states ... simply because like NMyTree and Mammasan said - too many people vote simply by the letters attached to the name or something ridiculous like their cousin's name was john ...

any country that could "elect" bush a second term proves this point ...

NMyTree

I can see why some you perceive what I said (and a lot of posts) as snobbish, but if you knew me; you'd realize I'm the furthest thing from snobbish.

I'm just fed up with the direction this country has been going in and the state of of it all. I'm fed up up shallow, pop-culture and the mind-numbing effect it has on a large portion of the people of this country. I'm fed up with glitzy, charasmatic talk......and tough talk; yet the same two parties and our Congress continue to fuck us all over, more and more each day.

I'm fed up with the overly-religious agenda and way it influences policy and law. I don't see much of difference between the Christian Extremist agenda/ approach and the Islamic agenda/appraoch so many Republicans attack.

I'm fed up with the corporate agenda and how it/they influence policy and law.

So forgive me for coming off as arrogant or snobbish. Essentially, I'm pissed off and fed up. If I come off that way, so be it.

Ghetto Star

David Plouffe:

"You know that despite what John McCain and his attack squad say, everyday people have the power to build something extraordinary when we come together. Will you make a donation of $100 or more right now to remind them?"

Keep sending that money...all this talk of community organization and energy conservation...tax breaks...and help for the little people...send the $100 to the soup kitchen...

newwetkojak

i thought the speech was very successful, energizing idiot america at a time when they were hanging their head down low and ready to call themselves out. idiot america now has another youthful candidate to bring god further into government (she believes that bush was guided by god to go into iraq, and prayed to jesus for a new oil pipeline), self-righteous stands on important social issues (she doesn't believe in teaching teenagers about birth-control... look where it got her family, and wants creationism to replace science in the schools), and has another down-home small town hick shitheaded narrowminded attitude that the american midwest can really cling onto, like george bush. america is stupid and very gullible, with an attention span of five minutes. they can base a very important decision on who to vote for after a single speech from a lady they have never heard of one week ago. fuckin sad.

if mccain/palin wins this thing, my faith in america will be utterly destroyed beyond repair.

direwolf74

newwetkojak wrote:

i thought the speech was very successful, energizing idiot america at a time when they were hanging their head down low and ready to call themselves out. idiot america now has another youthful candidate to bring god further into government (she believes that bush was guided by god to go into iraq, and prayed to jesus for a new oil pipeline), self-righteous stands on important social issues (she doesn't believe in teaching teenagers about birth-control... look where it got her family, and wants creationism to replace science in the schools), and has another down-home small town hick shitheaded narrowminded attitude that the american midwest can really cling onto, like george bush. america is stupid and very gullible, with an attention span of five minutes. they can base a very important decision on who to vote for after a single speech from a lady they have never heard of one week ago. fuckin sad.

if mccain/palin wins this thing, my faith in america will be utterly destroyed beyond repair.

As a Canadian, my faith in your country was utterly destroyed beyond repair when Bush won his second term in '04. Not sure how much worse it could possibly get than that. For the sake of your country I'm really hoping Obama and Biden can pull this one out.

momofglynn

cincybearcat wrote:

I agree about the applause at the beginning...of any speech, it gets annoying. I disagree about the speech not being spectacular...I think she knocked it outta the park with room to spare.

It was honestly my favorite speech of both conventions so far...F.Thompson and Obama and fighting it out for 2nd.

What speech has been your favorite?

I really liked Hillary's speech. But to be fair I did not see F. Thompson's speech so I I am not sure if this is a fair answer. I really do not see how Palin's speech was knocked out of the park. I listened to it. I read the transcript. Palin's speech was so-so. And I really mean that. It was just a regular speech. I went in with open mind and I walked away with disappointment that it wasn't better.

I look forward to the debate.

jimed14

Barack Obama just spoke about Palin's speech .... highlight of his response ...

"I've been called worse things on the basketball court."

hee hee.

cincybearcat

jimed14 wrote:

Barack Obama just spoke about Palin's speech .... highlight of his response ...

"I've been called worse things on the basketball court."

hee hee.

See, even his friends don't like this guy.

mammasan

I just read that Palin stated in a letter to supporters and the media that the Obama/Biden campaign has been engaged in vicious attacks against her, her husband and her family. I'm sorry but did I miss something. I have heard both Obama and Biden state that her family is off limits and I have only heard them criticize her credentials. I was giving this woman the benefit of the doubt when McCain announced her but this is just out right lies. I'm not an Obama/Biden supporter but I can't stand it when politicians use blatant lies to defame their opposition. If anything the Obama/Biden campaign have taken the absolute high road when it came to the Bristol pregnancy issue.

jimed14

mammasan wrote:

I just read that Palin stated in a letter to supporters and the media that the Obama/Biden campaign has been engaged in vicious attacks against her, her husband and her family. I'm sorry but did I miss something. I have heard both Obama and Biden state that her family is off limits and I have only heard them criticize her credentials. I was giving this woman the benefit of the doubt when McCain announced her but this is just out right lies. I'm not an Obama/Biden supporter but I can't stand it when politicians use blatant lies to defame their opposition. If anything the Obama/Biden campaign have taken the absolute high road when it came to the Bristol pregnancy issue.

Palin's hypocracy is a little annoying ...

one face says "Don't talk about my family!" ...

.... the other face says "I have a son with downs' syndrome and I will fight for people with children of special needs"

mammasan

jimed14 wrote:

Palin's hypocracy is a little annoying ...

one face says "Don't talk about my family!" ...

.... the other face says "I have a son with downs' syndrome and I will fight for people with children of special needs"

I can understand if she wants to use her family and it's experiences to help further causes, ie teen pregnancy and Down Syndrome, but for her to out right lie and say that Obama/Biden are viciously attacking her family is ridiculous. As I stated I held out some hope that she may bring of fresh air to politics and we would be able to inch away from this type of smear campaigning but I was wrong.

catch22

mammasan wrote:

I just read that Palin stated in a letter to supporters and the media that the Obama/Biden campaign has been engaged in vicious attacks against her, her husband and her family. I'm sorry but did I miss something. I have heard both Obama and Biden state that her family is off limits and I have only heard them criticize her credentials. I was giving this woman the benefit of the doubt when McCain announced her but this is just out right lies. I'm not an Obama/Biden supporter but I can't stand it when politicians use blatant lies to defame their opposition. If anything the Obama/Biden campaign have taken the absolute high road when it came to the Bristol pregnancy issue.

she's from the segment of the part that produced o'reilly, hannity, limbaugh, and their ilk. she knows this will be picked up on talk radio and played on country stations all over. and she knows that obama's response will not get any press because it is boring. this is a winning proposition for her. it gets those who might have been lukewarm to mccain and fires them up. the only people seeing it for what it is are people who were already in obama's camp.

this is the way those internet chain letters get started. she sends this letter. 10,000 idiots write an outraged email to friends and family who forward it to 250,000 more and suddenly you get it as fact that obama is a dirty homewrecker who likes to pick on children and soccer moms. it's good politics.

mammasan

catch22 wrote:

she's from the segment of the part that produced o'reilly, hannity, limbaugh, and their ilk. she knows this will be picked up on talk radio and played on country stations all over. and she knows that obama's response will not get any press because it is boring. this is a winning proposition for her. it gets those who might have been lukewarm to mccain and fires them up. the only people seeing it for what it is are people who were already in obama's camp.

this is the way those internet chain letters get started. she sends this letter. 10,000 idiots write an outraged email to friends and family who forward it to 250,000 more and suddenly you get it as fact that obama is a dirty homewrecker who likes to pick on children and soccer moms. it's good politics.

If this is good politics I would hate to see what bad politics are.

catch22

mammasan wrote:

If this is good politics I would hate to see what bad politics are.

from a success standpoint... obama's playing bad politics. reasoned, intelligent responses. a positive message instead of tearing his opponent down. he better get dirty and do it quick if he wants to take this election. the republicans have showed that the gloves are off and bush or no bush, karl rove's politics of manipulation are still in vogue.

jimed14

catch22 wrote:

from a success standpoint... obama's playing bad politics. reasoned, intelligent responses. a positive message instead of tearing his opponent down. he better get dirty and do it quick if he wants to take this election. the republicans have showed that the gloves are off and bush or no bush, karl rove's politics of manipulation are still in vogue.

2 months left ... in time, he will.

They know issues alone, sadly, don't win an election.

He and his constituants will come up with a plan ... he will not go the route of Gore or Kerry.

Piper At The Gates

What really gets me is this woman's main thing is her ultra conservative views on abstinence for all teenagers and anyone that is not in a married, heterosexual relationship, but it is now just fine for HER 17 year old daughter to get knocked-up by some yahoo from high school. The hypocrisy is staggering. She lied about the "Bridge To Nowhere". She actively sought the money for it from Congress and when THEY cut the funds, she took credit for it.
Then all that crap about how she and McCain are going to kick the special interest groups out of Washington. I bet she thinks the Keating Five were a boy band.
McCain's wife was on TV this morning with her usual pinned, glazed eyes. I wonder where she steals her drugs from now, after being caught ripping them off from her own charity.
Ahh, Republicans. They are just so beyond reproach.

Rock on

She says "I think its God's will to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gasline built".......... wtf?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k

CitizenRick

saveuplife wrote:

Regardless of what you say, she was very impressive. She's an effective speaker and the speech was well-written (although I know, just like all politicians... she didn't write it).

I'm pretty sure Obama largley writes his own speeches.

CitizenRick

Piper At The Gates wrote:

What really gets me is this woman's main thing is her ultra conservative views on abstinence for all teenagers and anyone that is not in a married, heterosexual relationship, but it is now just fine for HER 17 year old daughter to get knocked-up by some yahoo from high school. The hypocrisy is staggering. She lied about the "Bridge To Nowhere". She actively sought the money for it from Congress and when THEY cut the funds, she took credit for it.
Then all that crap about how she and McCain are going to kick the special interest groups out of Washington. I bet she thinks the Keating Five were a boy band.
McCain's wife was on TV this morning with her usual pinned, glazed eyes. I wonder where she steals her drugs from now, after being caught ripping them off from her own charity.
Ahh, Republicans. They are just so beyond reproach.

Dead on right!!!!! I can't believe people would buy into this Palin hype.

Just another right wing (or maverick) hypocrite!!!