Palin's Speech

saveuplife
saveuplife Posts: 1,173
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
Regardless of what you say, she was very impressive. She's an effective speaker and the speech was well-written (although I know, just like all politicians... she didn't write it).

She swayed my wife to vote Republican. I thought there was no shot a Republican could win this election. I think she may have just boosted McCain into a neck-and-neck race. It's kinda amazing. McCain obviously chose correctly.

The question is can he deliver?
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Why did you think a Republican could not win?
  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    polaris wrote:
    Why did you think a Republican could not win?


    Because of Bush's approval ratings. Because the sitting party almost always loses when we are in a recession or when job growth slows going into an election.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    saveuplife wrote:
    Because of Bush's approval ratings. Because the sitting party almost always loses when we are in a recession or when job growth slows going into an election.

    and one speech from her changed all that - funny how that works
  • John Budge
    John Budge Posts: 259
    She was very nervous for the first few minutes. And she could've told the zealots to STFU, instead of milking the initial ovation. That was a bit ridiculous. Overall, nothing spectacular.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    saveuplife wrote:
    Regardless of what you say, she was very impressive. She's an effective speaker and the speech was well-written (although I know, just like all politicians... she didn't write it).

    She swayed my wife to vote Republican. I thought there was no shot a Republican could win this election. I think she may have just boosted McCain into a neck-and-neck race. It's kinda amazing. McCain obviously chose correctly.

    The question is can he deliver?

    Agree 100%. She also helped sway my wife to vote republican...she thinks anyhow.

    It was a truly terrific speech, well done by the speech writer(s) and Mrs. Palin.

    I'm really looking forward to the debates to help me make my final choice.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    polaris wrote:
    Why did you think a Republican could not win?


    Because the people masquarading as republicans have built a big hill for McCain/Palin to climb.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I decided to watch her speech and while she is a good speaker I again thought that her speech was nothing but fluff. It's the same shit with every convention or stump speech, no substance. All of these speeches are just talking point with some jabs at the opponent. The worst part is that the people just eat it up. Fucking pathetic.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    All I know is that Palin has really stolen a lot of Obama's buzz about being the fresh new comer - whether that be bad or good that remains to be seen.

    I went out to dinner last Thursday night in suburban NJ around 7 in a crowded restaurant and people were just having normal conversations i.e. work, sports, etc. on a couple people mentioned they wanted to see Obama's speech. (I was a bartender in college so I still have bartender ears and can hear different conversations across a room.) Last night I went out to dinner with my family to a similar restaurant in a similar area and all I could hear were people talking about Palin's upcoming speech. A lot were dismissive saying she's from Alaska and what does she know and a few were supporting her. But regardless of your political view she definitely has brought some buzz to the GOP campaign and last night's speech didn't hurt it.

    It will be interesting to see how the polls look in a few days.
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    John Budge wrote:
    She was very nervous for the first few minutes. And she could've told the zealots to STFU, instead of milking the initial ovation. That was a bit ridiculous. Overall, nothing spectacular.


    I agree about the applause at the beginning...of any speech, it gets annoying. I disagree about the speech not being spectacular...I think she knocked it outta the park with room to spare.

    It was honestly my favorite speech of both conventions so far...F.Thompson and Obama and fighting it out for 2nd. ;)

    What speech has been your favorite?
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  • spyguy
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    mammasan wrote:
    I decided to watch her speech and while she is a good speaker I again thought that her speech was nothing but fluff. It's the same shit with every convention or stump speech, no substance. All of these speeches are just talking point with some jabs at the opponent. The worst part is that the people just eat it up. Fucking pathetic.

    my guess is you would eat up the same shit had RP been at the podium. maybe I'm wrong
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    mammasan wrote:
    I decided to watch her speech and while she is a good speaker I again thought that her speech was nothing but fluff. It's the same shit with every convention or stump speech, no substance. All of these speeches are just talking point with some jabs at the opponent. The worst part is that the people just eat it up. Fucking pathetic.


    Once again, I disagree, I thought the speech had substance...but then again I said the same abotu Biden and Obama's speeches and people disagreed with me as well.

    Honestly, so far, the rep. convention has been far less fluff than the Dems...but I am a little tired of hearing everyone tell the exact same story of McCain POW...Thompson did it well, everyone else shoul djust make small references to it, I don't need ot keep hearing it.
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  • eyedclaar
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    I felt like I was watching Satan, to say the least.
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  • mammasan
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    spyguy wrote:
    my guess is you would eat up the same shit had RP been at the podium. maybe I'm wrong

    Big difference is that Ron paul actually has substance in his speeches. Ron Paul talks about issues that the other candidates don't even bother mentioning. I hear the same shit coming from both parties. How they are going to fix America but I never hear how. Ron Paul tells us how. You may disagree with how he wants to do it but at least he lays it out for you.
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  • Strangest Tribe
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    I agree about the applause at the beginning...of any speech, it gets annoying. I disagree about the speech not being spectacular...I think she knocked it outta the park with room to spare.

    It was honestly my favorite speech of both conventions so far...F.Thompson and Obama and fighting it out for 2nd. ;)

    What speech has been your favorite?

    Dennis Kucinich had the best speech...
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  • John Budge
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    I agree about the applause at the beginning...of any speech, it gets annoying. I disagree about the speech not being spectacular...I think she knocked it outta the park with room to spare.

    It was honestly my favorite speech of both conventions so far...F.Thompson and Obama and fighting it out for 2nd. ;)

    What speech has been your favorite?
    I haven't watched all of the speeches, as most of them tend to contain the same partisan rhetoric that we've been hearing for the last year or so. I can say that I watched a good bit of Rudy's speech and it was absolutely awful. It was akin to some slob addressing a Moose Club meeting.
  • cincybearcat
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    I felt like I was watching Satan, to say the least.


    Wow...Satan...skipped right over Hitler huh?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Dennis Kucinich had the best speech...


    I've only read some text, I'll have to check it out, it's on YouTube I'm sure?

    If you try to ignore your own beliefs, you gotta admit that Palin speech was tremendous...just like Hillary's accomplished what the party wanted and Obama did a nice job...and Fred Thompson was energizing...so good work the past 2 weeks, in my opinion.
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  • eyedclaar
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Wow...Satan...skipped right over Hitler huh?


    Oh what the hell, throw him in as well.
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  • mammasan
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Once again, I disagree, I thought the speech had substance...but then again I said the same abotu Biden and Obama's speeches and people disagreed with me as well.

    Honestly, so far, the rep. convention has been far less fluff than the Dems...but I am a little tired of hearing everyone tell the exact same story of McCain POW...Thompson did it well, everyone else shoul djust make small references to it, I don't need ot keep hearing it.

    Well we have a different definition of substance. Then again you are probably a bit more receptive to these people as I have completely shut them out. I find both candidates and both parties to be absolutely worthless. I wouldn't want any of these people running the Dirty Water Hotdog stand outside my office building never mind my country. When I start hearing a candidate talk about how the Federal reserve is damaging our economy, or how our interventionist foreign policy is putting to much of a financial burden on the American public, or how the federal government is acting outside of it's constitutional powers, or how we need to start thinking about we have created a dependency on welfare in many communities then I will start to give that politician some support.
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  • JSBE
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    i don't know how i managed to last the whole "speech" but i felt it was the dictionary definition of pandering. it was underwhelming with very little, if any, substance. i thought she came off very poorly and the jabs at obama were petty and sarcastic.

    in the end i just sat and watched knowing it was a convention speech for the republican base, so i took it with a lot of grains of salt.

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