What have we NOT seen or heard in regards to 9/11

hailhailkc
hailhailkc Posts: 582
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
We talk a lot about what we HAVE seen from video, pics and documentation etc. about 9/11. But what about the things we have NOT seen, heard or been exposed to in relation to that day? For instance...

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm...feel free to add to my list...there are so many.

1. Where are the pics of the bodies / body parts AFTER they hit the ground from jumping out of the twin towers. You know someone took pics of that. I don't delight in seeing them, but nothing has ever been released.

2. Black box recordings from the plane that hit the Pentagon.

3. Other pictures of the lawn of the Pentagon. Surely someone else took other pics showing more of the grounds. We seem to only see the same pics over and over.

4. Other video footage from various sources surrounding the Pentagon. I've heard, and I assume, that there must have been other cameras pointed towards the Pentagon. One can only hope! Heh!! It is the Pentagon after all...

So many others...
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hailhailkc wrote:
    We talk a lot about what we HAVE seen from video, pics and documentation etc. about 9/11. But what about the things we have NOT seen, heard or been exposed to in relation to that day? For instance...

    Things that make you go hmmmmmmm...feel free to add to my list...there are so many.

    1. Where are the pics of the bodies / body parts AFTER they hit the ground from jumping out of the twin towers. You know someone took pics of that. I don't delight in seeing them, but nothing has ever been released.

    2. Black box recordings from the plane that hit the Pentagon.

    3. Other pictures of the lawn of the Pentagon. Surely someone else took other pics showing more of the grounds. We seem to only see the same pics over and over.

    4. Other video footage from various sources surrounding the Pentagon. I've heard, and I assume, that there must have been other cameras pointed towards the Pentagon. One can only hope! Heh!! It is the Pentagon after all...

    So many others...

    1. I think that whoever does have them, if at all, they have chosen not to make them public. If I was there, and i was not, I would have chosen not to photgragh the bodies.

    2. I'm not sure about this.

    3. its entirely possible that is the only footage available. im sure if you search the net hard enough you will find things that cnn and fox news dont show.

    4. so you would like to see footage from security cameras or personal cameras? I dont think its required to show the public. but i admit, i dont know the law. maybe the freedom of information act?
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    I thought this was interesting. Yes, it's not CNN or MSNBC but I honestly don't think there is a news source out there that we can completely rely on.

    http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/planes-of-911-exceeded-their-software-limits
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I thought this was interesting. Yes, it not CNN or MSNBC but I honestly don't think there is a news source out there that we can completely rely on.

    http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/planes-of-911-exceeded-their-software-limits


    people are allowed to type whatever they want. its not a creditable source IMO.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    people are allowed to type whatever they want. its not a creditable source IMO.


    what would be?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://wtc7.net/noprobe.html
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    http://wtc7.net/noprobe.html


    again, how is this a crediable source. wtc7.net is made by a guy name jim hoffman. (according to the site)

    who is jim hoffman? i have no idea. all of a sudden cuz jim hoffman says its true, it is?

    sorry i need more then that to believe the government had part of 9/11, in any way at all

    and rinf.com? never heard of it sorry. I like to get my information from the 9/11 commission report. IMO, some very smart honest people worked on it.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    jlew24asu wrote:
    who is jim hoffman? i have no idea. all of a sudden cuz jim hoffman says its true, it is?

    Who is Jim Hoffman???? Who is JIM HOFFMAN? He's a software engineer, which apparently makes him a leading expert on Building 7 because he can "think outside the box". :rolleyes:
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    again, how is this a crediable source. wtc7.net is made by a guy name jim hoffman. (according to the site)

    who is jim hoffman? i have no idea. all of a sudden cuz jim hoffman says its true, it is?

    sorry i need more then that to believe the government had part of 9/11, in any way at all

    and rinf.com? never heard of it sorry. I like to get my information from the 9/11 commission report. IMO, some very smart honest people worked on it.

    Just something that's out there so I thought I'd post it. I never said anything about it being all the proof one needs. I can tell you won't read it with an open mind seeing as how yours is already made no matter what.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jeffbr wrote:
    Who is Jim Hoffman???? Who is JIM HOFFMAN? He's a software engineer, which apparently makes him a leading expert on Building 7 because he can "think outside the box". :rolleyes:


    It simply makes him a human with an opinion.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • LBC1076
    LBC1076 Posts: 224
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    It simply makes him a human with an opinion.


    But unfortunately Jim Hoffman's opinion doesn't flow along with what the shepherd wants the sheep to believe so therefore it is not credible.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    LBC1076 wrote:
    But unfortunately Jim Hoffman's opinion doesn't flow along with what the shepherd wants the sheep to believe so therefore it is not credible.


    sorry it takes more then someone with a website to make me believe my government had part in 9/11 or covered up something about flight 93.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    LBC1076 wrote:
    But unfortunately Jim Hoffman's opinion doesn't flow along with what the shepherd wants the sheep to believe so therefore it is not credible.


    The way the believers of the official story seem to feel the need to smear and attack the conspiracy believers is a huge turn off and makes me wonder why they spend so much time getting so worked up over people who they supposedly see as nuts, anyway. It makes me think they do give them credit, though not outloud, and will stop at nothing to make them think twice about presenting their opinion.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    we haven't seen any of larry silverstein's 7.2 billion dollars. only he has.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry it takes more then someone with a website to make me believe my government had part in 9/11 or covered up something about flight 93.


    so you're happy with just one source...the 9/11 commission? everything else isn't worth your time?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    The Boeing company and NTSB normally recover and reassemble the pieces of downed aircraft in hangars. We did this in Long Beach after the Aero-Mexico crash over Cerritos, California. That was a McDonnell-Douglas DC-9 derivative passenger plane that a Cessna crashed into on approach to LAX in 1986. You should have seen the blood inside the Cessna... you would never imagine that that much blood could come from 2 or 3 people.
    Anyway, the pieces that were recovered from te September 11, 2001 attacks were and are not in the possession of Boeing. The Air Force has the remains... as well and a few high level Boeing officials, I'm sure. But, I know... it's not someplace where just anyone can examine the wreckage. Why? Probably because this was not a typical air disaster... we don't have to analyze the flight data recorder to see if there were systems failures. We pretty much know how they crashed.
    And from what I have heard... the black boxes have been recovered from Shanksville, PA. and the Pentagon... I don't know about the World Trade Centers.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    so you're happy with just one source...the 9/11 commission? everything else isn't worth your time?


    hundreds of sources were used to produce that report. not one person. i took the time to read both of your sources mentioned and i didnt find then credible. if you want to continue to post links of random links feel free. i will be happy to read it.
  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hundreds of sources were used to produce that report. not one person. i took the time to read both of your sources mentioned and i didnt find then credible. if you want to continue to post links of random links feel free. i will be happy to read it.

    the commission report was fucked with enough to lose SOME credibility. they deleted like what, 28 pages was it?

    not saying conspiracy sites are credible, though, they COULD be.
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/

    you really love that jim hoffman. this is from the site....


    Who We Are
    9-11 Research is a research consortium consisting of just a few individuals volunteering their time and resources to the effort. The principal contributors to the site are:

    Jim Hoffman, Webmaster and Senior Editor
    Gregg Roberts, Associate Editor
    Victoria Ashley, Research Consultant
    Jan Hoyer, Media Coordinator
    Jim Hoffman created the website and wrote the vast majority of its original content. Hoffman is a research scientist and software engineer. His scientific visualizations have been widely published in journals including Science News, Scientific American, Science Digest, and Nature; and he co-authored papers in Science and Macromolecules. Hoffman also created the Web publishing system used to maintain the 9-11 Research website. That Hoffman has been targeted by a campaign of harassment and defamation is evidence of the importance of his work.

    Gregg Roberts has been investigating the September 11 attack since December 2003 and has provided extensive editorial assistance to 911Research. He is currently working with Hoffman to produce a book based on the site. Roberts is a technical writer and business analyst with a bachelor's degree in psychology, master's-level study in social work, and earlier education in the "hard" sciences.

    Victoria Ashley has provided insights into the modes and methods of misinformation used to marginalize the 9/11 Truth Movement. Ashley is a researcher with degrees in architecture and physiological psychology.

    Jan Hoyer is a former board member and graphic designer of truthemergency.us, 911Truth.org and 911Visibility.org. Hoyer has a degree in graphic design and experience in online multimedia.



    sure they have a nice resume and im sure they are really smart people. but you cant convince me with a handful of people coming up with some theories and posting it on the net.
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    yawn


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks

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