Is this party wrong?(MLK)

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edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
By JEFF CARLTON

DALLAS (AP) - Authorities at Tarleton State University said they plan to investigate a Martin Luther King Jr. Day party that mocked black stereotypes by featuring fried chicken, malt liquor and faux gang apparel.

"I feel like there is no excuse for this type of ignorance," said Donald Ray Elder, president of the Stephenville school's chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Photographs posted on social networking Web site Facebook.com showed partygoers wearing Afro wigs and fake gold and silver teeth. One photo showed students "mocking how African-Americans do step shows," Elder said. In another picture, a student is dressed as Aunt Jemima and carries a gun.

"That upsets me," Elder said. "That's someone who knows nothing about Dr. King, because Dr. King was totally about nonviolence."

Wanda Mercer, the school's vice president of student life, said an investigation was planned into the Jan. 15 party.

More than 400 students attended a university-sponsored forum Wednesday night that Elder described as "a shaky baby step" in bridging a divide between black and white students on the campus, which had about 400 black students out of 7,800 overall last semester.

Elder said he sensed a racial divide at the forum, with black students sitting on one side of the room and whites on the other.

"It was civil, but it also escalated into a shouting match," he said in a telephone interview afterward.

Some of the students shown in the photos apologized, Elder said.

University President Dennis P. McCabe said the photographs were reprehensible.

"I am personally insulted by these photographs and am disappointed that Tarleton students have demonstrated such insensitivity," he said.

Stephenville is about 60 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    miller8966 wrote:
    By JEFF CARLTON

    DALLAS (AP) - Authorities at Tarleton State University said they plan to investigate a Martin Luther King Jr. Day party that mocked black stereotypes by featuring fried chicken, malt liquor and faux gang apparel.

    Plan to investigate and do what exactly?
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I think it's pretty tasteless to say the least but people are within their rights to have such a party. The school can carry out disicplinary action simply because every school has a a code of conduct that the students have to adhere to . I'm pretty sure such a party would be in violation of that code.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Collin wrote:
    Plan to investigate and do what exactly?

    umm prosecute
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    miller8966 wrote:
    umm prosecute


    That would be stupid. They didn't break any laws. If the school wants to carry out some dicisplinary action then fine, but not legal action.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Yeah the problem with sterotypes and the underlining truth that comes with them. I better make sure the next time I go to KFC that there is no black people around to think I am mocking them. Get over it all ready. Everybody mocks other people every once in a while. Whether it is for driving, walking, and accent, gold teeth :rolleyes:, whatever it may be.

    Should I be pissed off at the youth of today thinking that they are tough guys for trying to be what they see in rap videos?

    I wonder if the Romans are pissed off at toga parties?
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    even flow? wrote:
    Yeah the problem with sterotypes and the underlining truth that comes with them. I better make sure the next time I go to KFC that there is no black people around to think I am mocking them. Get over it all ready. Everybody mocks other people every once in a while. Whether it is for driving, walking, and accent, gold teeth :rolleyes:, whatever it may be.

    Should I be pissed off at the youth of today thinking that they are tough guys for trying to be what they see in rap videos?

    I wonder if the Romans are pissed off at toga parties?


    there is a difference between emulating and mocking,romans wore togas dumb-ass,it's not a racially motivated stereo type.how about we have a Canada day,we will eat frogs legs,drink Pabst blue,watch hockey and pretend our I.Q.s are 60.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    miller8966 wrote:

    Elder said he sensed a racial divide at the forum, with black students sitting on one side of the room and whites on the other.

    that Elder guy must be a rocket scientist...how did he ever sense a racial divide?
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    JamMastaE wrote:
    there is a difference between emulating and mocking,romans wore togas dumb-ass,it's not a racially motivated stereo type.how about we have a Canada day,we will eat frogs legs,drink Pabst blue,watch hockey and pretend our I.Q.s are 60.

    you forgot maple syrup...if you're going to stereotype at least include maple syrup. and it's LaBatt's blue
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  • Yes, the party is in bad taste, and ignorant in regards to MLK... that being said, nothing should be done about it. The people at the party seem to have gotten some flack about it, and they should, it was stupid.
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    i agree,no legal action.the school does have the obligation to take some action.
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    chopitdown wrote:
    you forgot maple syrup...if you're going to stereotype at least include maple syrup. and it's LaBatt's blue



    damn..you got me.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    chopitdown wrote:
    you forgot maple syrup...if you're going to stereotype at least include maple syrup. and it's LaBatt's blue


    Thanks for dropping that dudes iq for me.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    JamMastaE wrote:
    there is a difference between emulating and mocking,romans wore togas dumb-ass,it's not a racially motivated stereo type.how about we have a Canada day,we will eat frogs legs,drink Pabst blue,watch hockey and pretend our I.Q.s are 60.


    Wow you are getting hip with it. Strange all the rap I used to listen to had the repetitive lines of chicken and the greens they eat. As a white boy I should stay away from that, eh. They have afros, eat chicken, etc.

    Not unlike the mocking, copying of the Romans with togas. Sorry dude, PC only flies so far with me.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Very tasteless, but no law was broken. I think the university should take care of this one. Talk about a horrible idea though.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    even flow? wrote:
    Thanks for dropping that dudes iq for me.

    no prob - anything i can do to help oot
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Yes, the party is in bad taste, and ignorant in regards to MLK... that being said, nothing should be done about it. The people at the party seem to have gotten some flack about it, and they should, it was stupid.

    This is pretty much how I feel. There may be a need of some diologue on the topic of race at this school (and everywhere else), but what can or should you do to partygoers for this? Some were racists and some were just caught up in the moment and did not really give it enough thought. Either way, I don't really see what could come of an "investigation." The student paper editorials should just give them some shit and perhaps even call out the key orgianizers of the stupidity (if there are any) by name and be done with it.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    I think the party was dumb to have but at the same time there are theme parties / costumes all the time. What if a group of black guys dress up as fraternity boys to mock them? Would the same outcry have occured?
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    even flow? wrote:
    Wow you are getting hip with it. Strange all the rap I used to listen to had the repetitive lines of chicken and the greens they eat. As a white boy I should stay away from that, eh. They have afros, eat chicken, etc.

    Not unlike the mocking, copying of the Romans with togas. Sorry dude, PC only flies so far with me.


    it's not about PC,it's about co-existence through peace and respect.maybe you need to be taught some.
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    chopitdown wrote:
    I think the party was dumb to have but at the same time there are theme parties / costumes all the time. What if a group of black guys dress up as fraternity boys to mock them? Would the same outcry have occured?


    theme party? so if they were white,all shaved their heads and had swastikas for decorations that would be a "theme party"? what planet you live on?and your example of fraternity boys is equally ludicrous.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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    Emiliano Zapata
  • mammasan wrote:
    I think it's pretty tasteless to say the least but people are within their rights to have such a party. The school can carry out disicplinary action simply because every school has a a code of conduct that the students have to adhere to . I'm pretty sure such a party would be in violation of that code.

    if it is off-campus it doesn't matter. it is tasteless...
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,607
    miller8966 wrote:
    By JEFF CARLTON

    DALLAS (AP) - Authorities at Tarleton State University said they plan to investigate a Martin Luther King Jr. Day party that mocked black stereotypes by featuring fried chicken, malt liquor and faux gang apparel.

    "I feel like there is no excuse for this type of ignorance," said Donald Ray Elder, president of the Stephenville school's chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

    Photographs posted on social networking Web site Facebook.com showed partygoers wearing Afro wigs and fake gold and silver teeth. One photo showed students "mocking how African-Americans do step shows," Elder said. In another picture, a student is dressed as Aunt Jemima and carries a gun.

    "That upsets me," Elder said. "That's someone who knows nothing about Dr. King, because Dr. King was totally about nonviolence."

    Wanda Mercer, the school's vice president of student life, said an investigation was planned into the Jan. 15 party.

    More than 400 students attended a university-sponsored forum Wednesday night that Elder described as "a shaky baby step" in bridging a divide between black and white students on the campus, which had about 400 black students out of 7,800 overall last semester.

    Elder said he sensed a racial divide at the forum, with black students sitting on one side of the room and whites on the other.

    "It was civil, but it also escalated into a shouting match," he said in a telephone interview afterward.

    Some of the students shown in the photos apologized, Elder said.

    University President Dennis P. McCabe said the photographs were reprehensible.

    "I am personally insulted by these photographs and am disappointed that Tarleton students have demonstrated such insensitivity," he said.

    Stephenville is about 60 miles southwest of Fort Worth.

    Why is it that every post you make is aimed to stir up the righteous so that you can then give your opposing views, which normally border on facist?
  • chopitdown wrote:
    I think the party was dumb to have but at the same time there are theme parties / costumes all the time. What if a group of black guys dress up as fraternity boys to mock them? Would the same outcry have occured?


    It bothered me more that it was set-up as a MLK day party. I could care less if it was a "ghetto" theme, hippie theme or whatever.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Why is it that every post you make is aimed to stir up the righteous so that you can then give your opposing views, which normally border on facist?

    What fascist post did i make on this thread? I actually didnt even comment on the story.

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  • It bothered me more that it was set-up as a MLK day party. I could care less if it was a "ghetto" theme, hippie theme or whatever.

    well, it is a good survey on what college educated individuals think about african americans...
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    JamMastaE wrote:
    theme party? so if they were white,all shaved their heads and had swastikas for decorations that would be a "theme party"? what planet you live on?and your example of fraternity boys is equally ludicrous.

    yes, it would be a very poor theme party and i would say it was just as stupid. But comparing kids to dressing up and having fried chicken and gold teeth is a far cry from people wearing swastikas. Why is the frat party thing ludicrous...i just switched around the stereotype. is it only wrong in one direction? that seems a bit hypocritical. White people can't make fun of black people in a stereotypical manner but it's ok for blacks to mock white people?
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    It bothered me more that it was set-up as a MLK day party. I could care less if it was a "ghetto" theme, hippie theme or whatever.

    i can see that point.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    well, it is a good survey on what college educated individuals think about african americans...

    it's a good survey for what those students at that party think about african americans.
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