If Pj played the superbowl halftime show

Dustin51

I don't know. I'd love it personally but I wouldn't want to hear everyone slamming them for doing it. The other side of that coin though is would they ever be asked too? Someone said that it would be a sellout move but I kind of doubt that they would be asked too do a super bowl in the first place. It would be kind of like asking the Greatful Dead to do a super bowl.

sapperskunk

Dustin51 wrote:

I don't know. I'd love it personally but I wouldn't want to hear everyone slamming them for doing it. The other side of that coin though is would they ever be asked too? Someone said that it would be a sellout move but I kind of doubt that they would be asked too do a super bowl in the first place. It would be kind of like asking the Greatful Dead to do a super bowl.

I'd shoot myself in the head if the Grateful Dead had that opportunity.

Here's one from my favorite band. The Anti-Heroes. "Jerry was a piece of Shit"

"He's the old hippie that made us sick, He wrote muzak for drug addicts
He's the fat geezer who talked too much, He used drugs as a crutch
He ate granola and he hugged trees, Looked like a dog bit by fleas
Had a beer belly and a tye-dyed shirt, Said he'd live forever but now he sleeps in dirt

[Chorus]
{Jerry was a piece of shit, shit, shit, shit, shit
I'm Grateful that he's dead, dead, dead, dead, dead}

Like Jim Bakker he went far, Turned stadiums into singles bars
Did all of the drugs in San Francisco, Wrote 20 albums of long-haired disco
Then he sang I will survive, look who is no longer alive
So all you fuckers in your VW vans, Preppy dink hackysack clan
Wallstreet twats with ponytail hair, Your BMW's with dancing bears
He was an icon, he was a god, He racked in your cash in wads
You were conned by a useless slob, The tours are over so get a job

Dustin51

sapperskunk wrote:

I'd shoot myself in the head if the Grateful Dead had that opportunity.

Here's one from my favorite band. The Anti-Heroes. "Jerry was a piece of Shit"

"He's the old hippie that made us sick, He wrote muzak for drug addicts
He's the fat geezer who talked too much, He used drugs as a crutch
He ate granola and he hugged trees, Looked like a dog bit by fleas
Had a beer belly and a tye-dyed shirt, Said he'd live forever but now he sleeps in dirt

[Chorus]
{Jerry was a piece of shit, shit, shit, shit, shit
I'm Grateful that he's dead, dead, dead, dead, dead}

Like Jim Bakker he went far, Turned stadiums into singles bars
Did all of the drugs in San Francisco, Wrote 20 albums of long-haired disco
Then he sang I will survive, look who is no longer alive
So all you fuckers in your VW vans, Preppy dink hackysack clan
Wallstreet twats with ponytail hair, Your BMW's with dancing bears
He was an icon, he was a god, He racked in your cash in wads
You were conned by a useless slob, The tours are over so get a job

I think you missed my point. Pearl Jam is not a crossover band, like say the RHCP. Too be a Super Bowl Halftime show I think you need to have some crossover mainstream appeal. Neither the Grateful Dead, Pearl Jam, or the Anti-heroes have that.

PaperPlates

Jeanwah wrote:

Sell out to corporate sponser? Can't see it happening. Although I'd like to see them...

newsflash, they've already done just that. Besides, selling out just means succeeding. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.

sapperskunk

Dustin51 wrote:

I think you missed my point. Pearl Jam is not a crossover band, like say the RHCP. Too be a Super Bowl Halftime show I think you need to have some crossover mainstream appeal. Neither the Grateful Dead, Pearl Jam, or the Anti-heroes have that.

No, I totally got your point. It's like spatial voting.

U2 would be a good example of a big crossover band.

I put the Anti-Heroes in there cause they make fun of Jerry Garcia.





And it's hillarious.

blackredyellow

sapperskunk wrote:

Here you go genius, you should be good at doing research by now. Here's one from the desk of PJ themselves.

"Many of Pearl Jam's most loyal fans are teenagers who do not have the money to pay the $50 or more that is often charged today for tickets to a popular concert. Although, given our popularity, we could undoubtedly continue to sell-out our concerts with ticket prices at that premium level, we have made a conscious decision that we do not want to put the price of our concerts out of the reach of many of our fans. Moreover, we do not want to be responsible for teenagers, who may be influenced by peer pressure to feel that they must see Pearl Jam perform, spending more money for that concert ticket than they can really afford. All of the members of Pearl Jam remember what it is like not to have a lot of money, and we recognize that a teenager's perceived need to see his or her favorite band in concert can often be overwhelming."

Nice.... a quote from 1994... $50 then was at the high range of ticket prices, now it's usually the third or fourth price level for a concert. And they had what, three albums out at that point?

If you don't want to pay $50-$60 for a Pearl Jam concert ticket, then don't go, simple enough.

blackredyellow

PaperPlates wrote:

newsflash, they've already done just that. Besides, selling out just means succeeding. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion.

While I think selling out is the most overused and inappropriately used term in the world, when actually have they had corporate sponsorship?

Jammin909

blackredyellow wrote:

While I think selling out is the most overused and inappropriately used term in the world, when actually have they had corporate sponsorship?

The South American shows.

JOEJOEJOE

miller8966 wrote:

Would you be pissed?

Wow, I am impressed....though you presented your question as a negative, it didn't involve you baiting people with racial or political comments!

yield2me

they should play Blood

sapperskunk

blackredyellow wrote:

Nice.... a quote from 1994... $50 then was at the high range of ticket prices, now it's usually the third or fourth price level for a concert. And they had what, three albums out at that point?

If you don't want to pay $50-$60 for a Pearl Jam concert ticket, then don't go, simple enough.

Economics and inflation my friend. Here's a great article, a little old but still very applicable.

"Using box office information maintained by Pollstar, an organization that provides concert tour schedules, box office results and other music industry-related data, Krueger discovered that in the last five years concert ticket prices have grown by 61 percent, while the Consumer Price Index (the measure of the price of all consumer goods) increased by just 13 percent. Further, the cost of concert tickets now outpaces the other entertainment sectors -- movies, sporting events, theater -- by about 30 percent"

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S01/18/72I40/index.xml


Oh and don't worry, I haven't gone since 2000 when they played three days in a row for like 20 bucks at Memorial Stadium. Multiple shows, kept the price down.

sapperskunk

chiefojibwa wrote:

wow, your favorite band writes really shitty lyrics.

What did you expect from a hardcore punk outfit?


Uh oh, did they offend your band deadhead?

sapperskunk

chiefojibwa wrote:

i'm not a deadhead, genius. i just thought those were some of the most trite and utterly predictable lyrics i've ever read. granola, tree hugging, vw bus. wow, sooooo original.

hardcore punks can write brilliant lyrics too. unless they suck.

Geez man, it's like a joke song, the rest of their catologue is relatively serious. Take the fork out of your butt for a second deadhead.

I'm sure your well versed in hardcore :rolleyes: You seem to have the easy listening, acoustic, cry in my beer, I want to cut myself market cornered.
Where have I heard your stuff before? Oh yeah! You like Elliot Smith much.

I'm sure you can relate to the deep introspective lyrics to TV party by hardcore legends Black Flag. Give me some of your fave hardcore acts. I would just love to pick them apart.

RainDog

chiefojibwa wrote:

wow, your favorite band writes really shitty lyrics.

Not to mention their association with skinheads of the hard-right persuasion.

Though, to be fair, I believe they're more on the "fence-sitter" side of things; i.e. stopping short of advocating Nazism.

sapperskunk

RainDog wrote:

Not to mention their association with skinheads of the hard-right persuasion.

Though, to be fair, I believe they're more on the "fence-sitter" side of things; i.e. stopping short of advocating Nazism.

Unforunately, skinheads love the Anti-Heroes. The idea of "American Oi" intrigues and seduces people of the hard right. They've been trying to get away from that image for a very very long time. In the movie American History X, the big huge guy, I forget his name, has an Anti-Heroes tattoo on his wrist.

They filed a suit, because the movie producers essentially associated them with racists.

I wouldn't even call them close to being on "the fence sitters". Unless you consider SHARP's to be racist nazi's. Which is incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinheads_Against_Racial_Prejudice

sapperskunk

chiefojibwa wrote:

joke song or not, it's pretty sophmoric. i have a "joke song" on my myspace page...3rd one down. take a listen, this note's for you!

I've listened to ALL your stuff man. For someone like me to say it's not bad, is a huge compliment. Kudos to your art.

sapperskunk

RainDog wrote:

Not to mention their association with skinheads of the hard-right persuasion.

Though, to be fair, I believe they're more on the "fence-sitter" side of things; i.e. stopping short of advocating Nazism.

Wow Raindog, I am thoroughly impressed with your musical knowledge. That's not an easy one. Not to many people are aware of a little podunk hardcore band that started 23 years ago.

sapperskunk

chiefojibwa wrote:

thank you. and, seriously, i am NOT a deadhead. yes, i saw a couple of shows back in the day, but i'm beyond that now.

i'm moving to seattle this summer too, and hoping to find a band to play my stuff. maybe we'll end up on your radio show!?

I'd be happy to show you around and have you on my show.

RainDog

sapperskunk wrote:

Unforunately, skinheads love the Anti-Heroes. The idea of "American Oi" intrigues and seduces people of the hard right. They've been trying to get away from that image for a very very long time. In the movie American History X, the big huge guy, I forget his name, has an Anti-Heroes tattoo on his wrist.

They filed a suit, because the movie producers essentially associated them with racists.

I wouldn't even call them close to being on "the fence sitters". Unless you consider SHARP's to be racist nazi's. Which is incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinheads_Against_Racial_Prejudice

I'm familiar with SHARPs. Moshed with more than a few in my younger days. I'm also aware that a band can't always choose their audience. However, when you sing songs about stringing people up from trees or wishing AIDS on them; well, you know - to paraphrase the words of Vincent Vega, they probably didn't expect the audience to react like they did, but they had to expect a reaction.


I hear they did win that suit against the producers of American History X, though. Good for them.

ThumbingMyWay32

RainDog wrote:

I'm familiar with SHARPs. Moshed with more than a few in my younger days. I'm also aware that a band can't always choose their audience. However, when you sing songs about stringing people up from trees or wishing AIDS on them; well, you know - to paraphrase the words of Vincent Vega, they probably didn't expect the audience to react like they did, but they had to expect a reaction.


I hear they did win that suit against the producers of American History X, though. Good for them.

That's like, super cool dude.