U2's Bono gets owned

miller8966

blackredyellow wrote:

hahahahahaaha....hahahahaha... that's funny that he tries to raise awareness and money for social and economic problems around the world... haha....


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it's not funny... he actually tries to use his voice and influence to help people... while he can be overbearing, he is doing important and admirable work.

so... lol@miller8966 sitting behind a computer making fun of people that help others.

Alright man.

RainDog

onelongsong wrote:

my extended family not only donates millions to causes; some are in africa and other places actually helping. we can put the family name on the donations and be recognised but who would this recognition help? only the family name. to me that is selfish. donating the net profits from a concert draws more attention then hand clapping. all it did was make a joke out of him.

Provided this incident actually happened somewhere - isn't it possible that people in the audience didn't really think about Africa much? Bono likely does donate millions (I'm not sure - but bear with me) - and now, maybe some people in the audience are contributing to those millions themselves.

hippiemom

onelongsong wrote:

my extended family not only donates millions to causes; some are in africa and other places actually helping. we can put the family name on the donations and be recognised but who would this recognition help? only the family name. to me that is selfish. donating the net profits from a concert draws more attention then hand clapping. all it did was make a joke out of him.

If you had millions of fans, thousands of whom were fanatical enough to latch on to your every word, you'd be foolish not to take advantage of that influence in order to raise money and awareness for a cause you care about.

Uncle Leo

onelongsong wrote:

my extended family not only donates millions to causes; some are in africa and other places actually helping. we can put the family name on the donations and be recognised but who would this recognition help? only the family name. to me that is selfish. donating the net profits from a concert draws more attention then hand clapping. all it did was make a joke out of him.

Good for them (seriously, I know that that phrase looks sarcastic).

Perhaps U2 members donate money to causes we do not know about. Probably. And if we know about every cause, it is probably because someone else is finding it out and feels the need to tell the world.

But there is something else here--If U2 or someone has a cause and a huge fanbase, expressing support for a cause may get others to give some thought to it. And it's not like he's campagining for a candidate. He's talking about humanitarian causes. Therefore, there is more in it than just "good pub for U2." A silent donation is nice, but brings no other money to it. I assume your extended family would not be able to raise awareness the way U2 can, so for them, maybe publicizing would only be about self-promotion.

BTW, I cannot stomach U2's music and get a little sick of Bono, but they could just go into the tabloids and flash their cars, houses and bling. Instead they try to bring attention to humanitarian causes. I can't fault that.

norm

onelongsong wrote:

my extended family not only donates millions to causes; some are in africa and other places actually helping. we can put the family name on the donations and be recognised but who would this recognition help? only the family name. to me that is selfish. donating the net profits from a concert draws more attention then hand clapping. all it did was make a joke out of him.

Doesn't the end justify the means? If it's Bono clapping or you donating anonymously, the world is becoming a better place. Should Pearl Jam not have put every charity they donated to from this tour in DEEP? I just don't get how publicizing a cause is bad?

onelongsong

hippiemom wrote:

If you had millions of fans, thousands of whom were fanatical enough to latch on to your every word, you'd be foolish not to take advantage of that influence in order to raise money and awareness for a cause you care about.

my band was more than popular yet i didn't feel the need to promote myself. i donate to making documenteries.

miller8966

onelongsong wrote:

my band was more than popular yet i didn't feel the need to promote myself. i donate to making documenteries.

Yea but your not U2. i like U2 and i like Bono, though i think donating to africa is stupid.

RainDog

miller8966 wrote:

Yea but your not U2. i like U2 and i like Bono, though i think donating to africa is stupid.

Not that I donate there myself, but why exactly is it stupid?

soulsinging

onelongsong wrote:

my band was more than popular yet i didn't feel the need to promote myself. i donate to making documenteries.

what was your band?

and when do you get ordained for sainthood? cos in the last 2 days ive learned that you've been in a famous band, donated millions of dollars to african relief, and spend all your free time helping abused and neglected children. dont break your fingers tooting your own horn there. doesn't seem to me like you've got any room to point fingers at bono. apparently you're a regular renaissance man. something about your stories doesn't jive.

miller8966

RainDog wrote:

Not that I donate there myself, but why exactly is it stupid?

Most of the money goes to the warlords. And also i believe in conspcious consumption..... i need a ps3

RainDog

miller8966 wrote:

Most of the money goes to the warlords.

I'm sure there's corruption - but I seriously doubt that it's "most."

miller8966 wrote:

And also i believe in conspcious consumption..... i need a ps3

Won't hear me condemn a gamer. Still, be careful out there - you don't want to get shot.

Pearl Jam and toast

hahahaha nice!

onelongsong

soulsinging wrote:

what was your band?

and when do you get ordained for sainthood? cos in the last 2 days ive learned that you've been in a famous band, donated millions of dollars to african relief, and spend all your free time helping abused and neglected children. dont break your fingers tooting your own horn there. doesn't seem to me like you've got any room to point fingers at bono. apparently you're a regular renaissance man. something about your stories doesn't jive.

i really don't think this post deserves a response but i wonder; what doesn't jive?

soulsinging

onelongsong wrote:

i really don't think this post deserves a response but i wonder; what doesn't jive?

that you and your family are multi-millionaires who lived in africa but now you live in america and somehow pull down millions of dollars working in a shelter for abused and neglected kids. that prior to all of this you were a famous musician in a successful rock band who made enough to donate millions to africa but now has nothing better to do than hang around the pearl jam message pit posting all day (apparently while continuing to work with abused kids... are they on nap time right now?).

what's your story?

what was your band called?

onelongsong

miller8966 wrote:

Most of the money goes to the warlords. And also i believe in conspcious consumption..... i need a ps3

A LIGHT IN A SEA OF DARKNESS. most of the money goes to big ofices; new computers; advertising for more donations; paying the people that work for this non-profit company; and other business associated costs.

i praise PJ for their work and look down on bono because PJ works as a team. if U2 was making the donations and other help as a team; that's not self promotion. but all i ever hear about is bono. the money was made as a team and should be recognised as a team effort. a band is a family.

take someone like clint eastwood or others that greatly donate to causes yet don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops. alice cooper has been doing more than anyone i know yet doesn't self promote.

i would have respected bono stopping the concert and saying "every 3 (?) seconds a child dies in africa. this is important to me and if you can help; i'd greatly appreciate it."
maybe it's just me.

soulsinging

onelongsong wrote:

A LIGHT IN A SEA OF DARKNESS. most of the money goes to big ofices; new computers; advertising for more donations; paying the people that work for this non-profit company; and other business associated costs.

i praise PJ for their work and look down on bono because PJ works as a team. if U2 was making the donations and other help as a team; that's not self promotion. but all i ever hear about is bono. the money was made as a team and should be recognised as a team effort. a band is a family.

take someone like clint eastwood or others that greatly donate to causes yet don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops. alice cooper has been doing more than anyone i know yet doesn't self promote.

i would have respected bono stopping the concert and saying "every 3 (?) seconds a child dies in africa. this is important to me and if you can help; i'd greatly appreciate it."
maybe it's just me.

the edge has been incredibly active in similar measures. he has been a huge player in rebuilding the music scene in nwe orleans after katrina. they all have an activist streak. bono just gets the most press cos he's the frontman. to people who arent huge pearl jam fans, it's only eddie vedder who spouts off about politics anymore. cos nobody know who else is in the band. ditto for U2. they all stay involved, bono just has the highest profile.

onelongsong

soulsinging wrote:

that you and your family are multi-millionaires who lived in africa but now you live in america and somehow pull down millions of dollars working in a shelter for abused and neglected kids. that prior to all of this you were a famous musician in a successful rock band who made enough to donate millions to africa but now has nothing better to do than hang around the pearl jam message pit posting all day (apparently while continuing to work with abused kids... are they on nap time right now?).

what's your story?

what was your band called?

who told you this? it's new to me. polish families are close. all have businesses branched from my grandfather. the average number of children runs from 7 to 14; so my family includes hundreds of people. and that's immediate family.
now i am the biggest supplier of grass raised buffalo. my job is basically watching buffalo eat. this leaves plenty of time to donate to abused children and other things to help my community. i have a cousin in south africa with a mission helping there and another that's a nun stationed there.
so what's so difficult to understand?

onelongsong

soulsinging wrote:

the edge has been incredibly active in similar measures. he has been a huge player in rebuilding the music scene in nwe orleans after katrina. they all have an activist streak. bono just gets the most press cos he's the frontman. to people who arent huge pearl jam fans, it's only eddie vedder who spouts off about politics anymore. cos nobody know who else is in the band. ditto for U2. they all stay involved, bono just has the highest profile.

fair enough. but eddie gives credit where it's due. i credit the entire family even though i am now head of the family.
you do raise a good point and i respect that.

soulsinging

onelongsong wrote:

who told you this? it's new to me. polish families are close. all have businesses branched from my grandfather. the average number of children runs from 7 to 14; so my family includes hundreds of people. and that's immediate family.
now i am the biggest supplier of grass raised buffalo. my job is basically watching buffalo eat. this leaves plenty of time to donate to abused children and other things to help my community. i have a cousin in south africa with a mission helping there and another that's a nun stationed there.
so what's so difficult to understand?

why you fault bono for being an attention seeker and being highly active in trying to combat issues you yourself support, then in the same sentence drop the fact that your family donates millions to such causes without drawing attention to it, which is patently false becos in that very sentence you are calling attention to it. bono is doing a lot of good. he donates tons of money and time to those causes. and by being vocal about it, he inspires others to donate... so you dont just get bono's millions, you get millions of other people adding to that sum. how is that a bad thing? i am all for him speaking out about these things. god knows most people in this country are either totally oblivious to it or simply dont give a shit. if he can wake even a few people up that is a good thing.

that's what i dont understand. why you think bono should shut up about this stuff.

also, id still like to know what band you were in.

soulsinging

onelongsong wrote:

fair enough. but eddie gives credit where it's due. i credit the entire family even though i am now head of the family.
you do raise a good point and i respect that.

ive yet to see bono take sole credit for curing africa. he talks about great organizations and even creates his own to address problems. ive never seen any ego in what he does. he enjoys playing like a mega star at times, i think he gets a kick out of it. but when he talks about those issues, he is very sincere and it is about the people he wants to help, not him.