no smoking in public buildings???

present address

what do you all think? has the government gone to far with this? and should it apply to all places? i think to much government is really bad really bad....
i think the only thing diners should have to have is smoking and non smoking sections but it could be their call to go smoke free... clearly places like hospitals and health care places should be smoke free... but what is wrong with the break room for smoking ..... i remember going to the basement of my school to get the janitor for a mop and he was in the breakroom smoking...
i never thought for one minute man he shouldnt be smoking in here..... and this was like ten years ago... you cant smoke on school grounds but if in your car you sit in the parking lot and smoke... makes sense write... and towns are going smoke free all around me its crazy.... especially for bars......wow you can kill your liver but not your lungs...... what your kidding this is sofa king stupid.... anyways your thoughts please

jlew24asu

gone to far?? fuck no. smokers deserve NO rights.

Ahnimus

present address wrote:

what do you all think? has the government gone to far with this? and should it apply to all places? i think to much government is really bad really bad....
i think the only thing diners should have to have is smoking and non smoking sections but it could be their call to go smoke free... clearly places like hospitals and health care places should be smoke free... but what is wrong with the break room for smoking ..... i remember going to the basement of my school to get the janitor for a mop and he was in the breakroom smoking...
i never thought for one minute man he shouldnt be smoking in here..... and this was like ten years ago... you cant smoke on school grounds but if in your car you sit in the parking lot and smoke... makes sense write... and towns are going smoke free all around me its crazy.... especially for bars......wow you can kill your liver but not your lungs...... what your kidding this is sofa king stupid.... anyways your thoughts please

When it crossed the line from respecting others health to banishing smokers, it was too far. I agree others shouldn't have to inhale second hand smoke, but smokers shouldn't legally have to go 3 blocks down the street to have a cigarette. That's just ridiculous, that's just over the top.

Ahnimus

Just wait in a few months everyone will be complaining about cigarette butts being all over the ground. That's where we are at in London, ON. It's just stupid, I mean what the fuck do they expect to happen?

jeffbr

I don't mind smoking restrictions in public places. I do mind smoking bans on private property in private establishments. I am not a smoker, but I am a fan of liberty.

yellowled24

in australia u can hardly smoke anywhere. Even alot of pubs and clubs and casinos have banned it!

Tom K

Privately owned places, I feel, should be able to make their own rules regarding smoking..

Ahnimus

Have some compassion I say, I smoke 800 of these fucking things every month. Do I want to? Absolutely not, but it's just not that fucking simple.

Shit, everyday I inhale car fumes like crazy and it's disgusting, if I'm forced to inhale that shit then people can suffer a little bit of tobacco smoke from time to time.

mca47

I'm not one of those diehard anti-smoker people, but I hate being somewhere and stinking like smoke.
If you wanna smoke, simply step outside.
Hell, I used to smoke (casually) and I think it's nasty!

CorporateWhore

Smoking should be illegal in publicly owned buildings because people have to enter those buildings at times. Those people don't deserve to inhale second hand smoke.

In privately owned buildings, the government has no right to tell them they cannot allow smoking. Next they'll be telling me I can't smoke in my own house.

Ahnimus

mca47 wrote:

I'm not one of those diehard anti-smoker people, but I hate being somewhere and stinking like smoke.
If you wanna smoke, simply step outside.
Hell, I used to smoke (casually) and I think it's nasty!

Ok, but when you step outside you can't escape the car fumes, how can I as a non-owner of a car, force all you SUV driving assholes to take your vehicles to a different planet?

trappedinmyradio

present address wrote:

what do you all think? has the government gone to far with this? and should it apply to all places? i think to much government is really bad really bad....
i think the only thing diners should have to have is smoking and non smoking sections but it could be their call to go smoke free... clearly places like hospitals and health care places should be smoke free... but what is wrong with the break room for smoking ..... i remember going to the basement of my school to get the janitor for a mop and he was in the breakroom smoking...
i never thought for one minute man he shouldnt be smoking in here..... and this was like ten years ago... you cant smoke on school grounds but if in your car you sit in the parking lot and smoke... makes sense write... and towns are going smoke free all around me its crazy.... especially for bars......wow you can kill your liver but not your lungs...... what your kidding this is sofa king stupid.... anyways your thoughts please

no one is being told that they can't smoke. they are be told that they can't smoke where it affects other people. the act of someone drinking in a bar doesn't affect another person...but, the act of smoking DOES affect other people...there are smoke rooms all over the world...they're called OUTSIDE. if people really need to smoke that badly then smoke away...but stay away from me with it.

wolfbear

Ahnimus wrote:

Just wait in a few months everyone will be complaining about cigarette butts being all over the ground. That's where we are at in London, ON. It's just stupid, I mean what the fuck do they expect to happen?

That drove me crazy in Hawaii. We were there in December for the concert after they passed the strict non-smoking law. They have no ashtrays in the very few places that smoking is allowed so it's just a mess.

Ahnimus

trappedinmyradio wrote:

no one is being told that they can't smoke. they are be told that they can't smoke where it affects other people. the act of someone drinking in a bar doesn't affect another person...but, the act of smoking DOES affect other people...there are smoke rooms all over the world...they're called OUTSIDE. if people really need to smoke that badly then smoke away...but stay away from me with it.

Likewise with the perfume, bad breath and flatulence. Stay away from me with that shit, it's toxic and my lungs feel like they are going to collapse as my throat involuntarily closes.

wolfbear

CorporateWhore wrote:

Smoking should be illegal in publicly owned buildings because people have to enter those buildings at times. Those people don't deserve to inhale second hand smoke.

In privately owned buildings, the government has no right to tell them they cannot allow smoking. Next they'll be telling me I can't smoke in my own house.

That has already happened. Can't remember exactly where, but in a condo somewhere.

present address

i dont smoke at all...but bars come on this is going to far its not like little kids are present ..... i didnt want smoke sticks as a kid because smoking was cool i liked the puff of dust that came out the end when you first blew on it.... come on people smaller government less problems

Ahnimus

wolfbear wrote:

That drove me crazy in Hawaii. We were there in December for the concert after they passed the strict non-smoking law. They have no ashtrays in the very few places that smoking is allowed so it's just a mess.

Yea, I figured a good compromise would be to allow some kind of designated smoking area. But in london now you can't even have that. You used to be able to smoke on the patios at bars, but people complained to the gov now you can't do that either. It's just gone way over the top and the environment is paying the price. I've said this before you CAN'T get everyone to do whatever you think they should do. While I agree littering butts sucks, people are going to do it unless they have a designated area with proper disposal units.

In my opinion smoking is a cultural habit, no one would smoke now if smoking was never allowed before. So in-part we all have a responsibility to recognize it as a part of our culture and take reasonable steps to eliminate it. The same goes for alcohol, it's a terrible thing to have people drinking all the time like it's the purpose for life.

JOEJOEJOE

Ahnimus wrote:

Have some compassion I say, I smoke 800 of these fucking things every month. Do I want to? Absolutely not, but it's just not that fucking simple.

Shit, everyday I inhale car fumes like crazy and it's disgusting, if I'm forced to inhale that shit then people can suffer a little bit of tobacco smoke from time to time.

and just how much do you expect society to tolerate the "Its just not that fucking simple" excuse......should child molesters be able to use that excuse?

present address

trappedinmyradio wrote:

no one is being told that they can't smoke. they are be told that they can't smoke where it affects other people. the act of someone drinking in a bar doesn't affect another person...but, the act of smoking DOES affect other people...there are smoke rooms all over the world...they're called OUTSIDE. if people really need to smoke that badly then smoke away...but stay away from me with it.

like i said kill your liver not your lung............figure that one out..... your liver you need more than your lungs.....john wayne lived a long time with a lung mickie mantle lived short with one liver

jeffbr

trappedinmyradio wrote:

no one is being told that they can't smoke. they are be told that they can't smoke where it affects other people. the act of someone drinking in a bar doesn't affect another person...but, the act of smoking DOES affect other people...there are smoke rooms all over the world...they're called OUTSIDE. if people really need to smoke that badly then smoke away...but stay away from me with it.

Nobody forces you to patronize private establishments that allow smoking. if you don't like it, don't vote with your dollars. Go to a non-smoking establishment and support the owner.

wolfbear

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, I figured a good compromise would be to allow some kind of designated smoking area. But in london now you can't even have that. You used to be able to smoke on the patios at bars, but people complained to the gov now you can't do that either. It's just gone way over the top and the environment is paying the price. I've said this before you CAN'T get everyone to do whatever you think they should do. While I agree littering butts sucks, people are going to do it unless they have a designated area with proper disposal units.

In my opinion smoking is a cultural habit, no one would smoke now if smoking was never allowed before. So in-part we all have a responsibility to recognize it as a part of our culture and take reasonable steps to eliminate it. The same goes for alcohol, it's a terrible thing to have people drinking all the time like it's the purpose for life.

That's funny because at Heathrow they had smoking areas that weren't separated at all and some of the bars also allowed smoking. We figured England was pretty "middle of the road". I understand it in public buildings, etc., but when it's outside or in someones home, it just seems silly.