A simple question

Abookamongstthemany
Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
Should our foreign and even domestic policies be guided by religious beliefs?
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    hmm,

    I have a simple question: Why do the simple questions sometimes hurt my head the most?

    As we come together from all reaches, colors and beliefs, we will need to simplify actions down into right or wrong. God has to be there in name but only the most basic of concepts towards right and wrong should apply to law.

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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    depends.
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    is this a trick question? :confused:

    i mean, it seems obvious to me...of course not. it should be based on what we as a collective society believe in, as voters of the nation, etc...so while sure, many are religious and may vote based on religious beliefs, it would not be based on any sole set of religious beliefs, but on what is valued as a priority as a nation. seperation of church and state in all government, was a damn fine idea in its inception, and still is today.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    absolutely not, it makes no sense, because anything religion is right about should be concluded to logically aswell.

    For you "traditional" folks. The united states was colonized for religious freedom. So it would make no sense to disobey that concept by guiding the country by a single religion. It's precisely the reason American colonist colonized America.
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  • Meatwagon
    Meatwagon Posts: 108
    I don't think you can really seperate to two sides to be honest. We do have it in writing, and make an effort to follow the guidelines we set for ourselves. The problem is religon is set so deep in our society that it can affect almost any decision made. It's the whole your surroundings shape who you will be deal. Some people just take it further than others.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    It seems to me at least, that a lot of people are basing their support for Israel on their religious beliefs and expect the world to follow suit. That is quite scary to me.

    And then this thing about radical Islam being satanic or guided by satan...each side obviously feels what they are doing is the 'right' thing for their people. I don't think one set of people are actually setting out to do evil work upon man. It just seems crazy to think this way to me.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Should our foreign and even domestic policies be guided by religious beliefs?
    Most religious beliefs are common sense though.. Don't kill, don't steal, don't cheat, ec.. Wether Allah, Jesus, Budha or Joe down the street says them, most would agree.
  • Meatwagon
    Meatwagon Posts: 108
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    It seems to me at least, that a lot of people are basing their support for Israel on their religious beliefs and expect the world to follow suit. That is quite scary to me.

    And then this thing about radical Islam being satanic or guided by satan...each side obviously feels what they are doing is the 'right' thing for their people. I don't think one set of people are actually setting out to do evil work upon man. It just seems crazy to think this way to me.
    So this was leading up to somthing....I don't look at this with much of a religous eye. I have trouble seeing the pain and suffering that is passed out to the masses in the name of a higher power being anything but an excuse! An excuse to gain more power. An excuse to secure your land from terrorists. An excuse for spreading Democracy. An excuse to just go to war and make money. I'm still trying to make heads or tails about Isreal and what role we play, besides arming them. I'm a bit lost:(
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  • Hoon
    Hoon Posts: 175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Should our foreign and even domestic policies be guided by religious beliefs?


    Well, separation of Church and State is very important.

    The minority and others opinions and ways of life must be respected.


    But YES, our foreign and domestic policies should be guided by Religious Beliefs.


    Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.
    Mohandas Gandhi

    p.s.

    Perhaps when an extremest "blank" or an extremest "blank" do something baaaaad they should cease to be associated with their religion at that moment.
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    It seems to me at least, that a lot of people are basing their support for Israel on their religious beliefs and expect the world to follow suit. That is quite scary to me.

    And then this thing about radical Islam being satanic or guided by satan...each side obviously feels what they are doing is the 'right' thing for their people. I don't think one set of people are actually setting out to do evil work upon man. It just seems crazy to think this way to me.

    Yeah, you just can't put a religious label on politics and run the course accordingly.

    What a recipe for disaster. The notion of God should be upheld at that level in notion of goodness, but not in actual practice. Two different entities. You can see some of how well the middle east is faring because of their religious beliefs interfering with political reason...

    It's like mixing business and pleasure sorta...
  • hailhailkc
    hailhailkc Posts: 582
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    It seems to me at least, that a lot of people are basing their support for Israel on their religious beliefs and expect the world to follow suit. That is quite scary to me.

    And then this thing about radical Islam being satanic or guided by satan...each side obviously feels what they are doing is the 'right' thing for their people. I don't think one set of people are actually setting out to do evil work upon man. It just seems crazy to think this way to me.

    Well, you seem crazy to me quite often too.
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  • IWillLiveForeve
    IWillLiveForeve Posts: 427
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Most religious beliefs are common sense though.. Don't kill, don't steal, don't cheat, ec.. Wether Allah, Jesus, Budha or Joe down the street says them, most would agree.

    This is pretty much right. the problem lies in the extremists. Most muslims have the same approach to life that we do. the hard liners are the ones that always make things fucked. total 'one bad apple' syndrome.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    hailhailkc wrote:
    Well, you seem crazy to me quite often too.

    How so?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Most religious beliefs are common sense though.. Don't kill, don't steal, don't cheat, ec.. Wether Allah, Jesus, Budha or Joe down the street says them, most would agree.

    Good post.
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  • hailhailkc
    hailhailkc Posts: 582
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    How so?

    The same way I seem to crazy to you I suppose.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    hailhailkc wrote:
    The same way I seem to crazy to you I suppose.

    I didn't say you were crazy. I said I thought viewing a group of people as being evil seemed crazy to me (the thought, not you as a person). I guess to you it seems possible.

    So how do I seem crazy?
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Should our foreign and even domestic policies be guided by religious beliefs?


    NO
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Hoon wrote:
    Well, separation of Church and State is very important.

    The minority and others opinions and ways of life must be respected.


    But YES, our foreign and domestic policies should be guided by Religious Beliefs.


    Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is.
    Mohandas Gandhi

    p.s.

    Perhaps when an extremest "blank" or an extremest "blank" do something baaaaad they should cease to be associated with their religion at that moment.

    If religion is driving people to support the genocide of the palestinian people then I say no, we can do without this for sure.

    410 to 8 in congress hold the same belief. it seems like the 8 are the ones not being associated with this particular belief.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    guided? maybe. dictated? no fucking way.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Religion cannot be banned from the political thought process so I do not think that this question can be answered with a blanket statement.

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