Obama said he will debate his opponents

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    just quickly on this, i agree that without the money you can't have the war.

    i don't agree with everything obama has done, but i still believe he will bring the troops home home quicker than anyone else when he is elected.


    I think Nader would bring them home quicker, actually. Much quicker. Obama refused to even commit to bringing the troops home by 2013!!!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    MrBrian wrote:
    not funny, pretty lame dude.
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    Look at what I don't agree with them on, some big issues dude!
    It's not like oh, you like strawberries and i'm like, 'yo..you are so stupid'

    it's like, 'dude, how can you support someone who voted this way and perhaps, no did cause the death of thousands of innocent people?'

    like do you get it now?


    I completely get what you are saying! And it's so true. If you're supporting someone who has voted to fund the war, continue the patriot act, support FISA then yeah....you're part of the fucking problem! And I don't mind telling you why.

    There is NO justification for our continued support of this kind of shit! We have to take a stand and say 'alright, enough is e-fucking-nough! I will not support you if you seem content in disregarding our constitution and content in encouraging pre-emptive wars! No thanks, we have had enough of that bullshit already....I think we can do a bit better than that...sorry Obama, but you are simply just more of the same stuff we've seen for decades now and you will not be the kind of change we need....you are all about talk and your actions contradict your words on a daily basis now....


    Please give me one reason why we should trust Obama's word? Where has he proven himself a man of honor and thus trustworthy?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Dennis Kucinich has never publicly endorsed Obama for President. He only made that statement during one primary to vote for him. He hasn't said one word since in support of Obama...that I'm aware of anyways. (if you have some kind of clip or anything with Kucinich encouraging people to vote Obama, please share it with the rest of us). From what I have read, Dennis Kucinich HAS NOT publicly endorsed anyone for president. So let's discontinue this falsehood, please.
    you can call it whatever you want abook, but there's no denying that his encouragement for obama sent a huge message.

    he strongly encouraged committment to obama. i doubt that was something kucinich would have done lightly.

    'I strongly encourage all of my supporters to make Barack Obama their second choice. Sen. Obama and I have one thing in common: Change.”
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I think Nader would bring them home quicker, actually. Much quicker. Obama refused to even commit to bringing the troops home by 2013!!!
    obama july 4th 2008.

    'Let me be as clear as I can be,” I intend to end this war. My first day in office I will bring the Joint Chiefs of Staff in, and I will give them a new mission, and that is to end this war — responsibly, deliberately, but decisively.

    And I have seen no information that contradicts the notion that we can bring our troops out safely at a pace of one to two brigades a month, and, again, that pace translates into having our combat troops out in 16 months’ time'

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    just quickly on this, i agree that without the money you can't have the war.

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    Oh, you can still have it, you'll just get alot of your kids killed alot quicker.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    MrBrian wrote:
    Possible?...sure. But look at Obama, his most recent words. How much of it is fresh and new...what's different about him? other than color.

    Also, sure Obama would bring some small change, but it will only be on the surface. But perhaps that's deep enough for you? It's not for me.

    and hey i'm sorry..I don't mean to be so offensive....well, maybe a little. just a bit,

    I don't know. Just take a really good look at it all. Look at Obama, check his Israeli policy. Don't these things matter? He even voted to fund the Iraq war... does it not matter?

    Sure he may say that it was to protect the troops, but i'll tell you what, without the money, how can you have the war? How could it continue?


    Great post!

    Not to mention that the Republicans always sell war as 'protecting' one group of people or another...it's just that when they do it, they are 'warmongers' but when Democrats do it, they are 'humanitarians'. It's the wonderful power of the name Democrats that makes it all excusable some how.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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