not all of africa is desert. a perfect world would entail moving hundreds of millions of people here? wow. then i'd really not be able to find an apartment or a job.
no need for the sarcasm. I'm here tonight to learn a few things.
I don't know anything about life in Africa. why don't you tell me why the people there are sooooo poor? why do women have babies when they are starving themselves?
I'm also concerned about both but I'm a parent so I tend to be more concerned about other parents. (and I still question why someone would get pregnant while living in a fly-infested shack in Africa... do the women there just part there legs when they're told to do so?)
It's not that hard to feed yourself and your kids on a limited income. If you have acces to dirt, sunlight and water, you can plant seeds and grow things. The other nutrients aren't THAT hard to find, either.
Sure, it's easier to buy some ramen or buy off the dollar menu at McDonalds... that's an education issue in my mind.
Seriously, I don't know where to begin to address this post.
I guess they are just starving because they are too lazy to find all these nutrients laying all over the place. :rolleyes:
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm also concerned about both but I'm a parent so I tend to be more concerned about other parents. (and I still question why someone would get pregnant while living in a fly-infested shack in Africa... do the women there just part there legs when they're told to do so?)
It's not that hard to feed yourself and your kids on a limited income. If you have acces to dirt, sunlight and water, you can plant seeds and grow things. The other nutrients aren't THAT hard to find, either.
Sure, it's easier to buy some ramen or buy off the dollar menu at McDonalds... that's an education issue in my mind.
These are easy questions to answer, as a ton of research has been done. The key to population control is maternal education. When mothers are educated, teh infant mortality rate drops. When infant mortality drops, so does the birth rate. Children are the only form of old age welfare in these countries. If none of your children survive, you will not be cared for in old age. The higher the infant mortality, teh more children you need to have to ensure there will be someone alive to care for you.
War dirupts agriculture. Most of this poverty comes from famine casued by war. Drought contributes, but war is the main issue.
And yes, women there do spread their legs when they are told to.
It's funny, white folk are blamed for all the bad in the world, but we did invent women's rights, contraception and abolish slavery.
THe images in teh original post are all to do with education, littel to do with capitalism.
no need for the sarcasm. I'm here tonight to learn a few things.
I don't know anything about life in Africa. why don't you tell me why the people there are sooooo poor? why do women have babies when they are starving themselves?
These are easy questions to answer, as a ton of research has been done. The key to population control is maternal education. When mothers are educated, teh infant mortality rate drops. When infant mortality drops, so does the birth rate. Children are the only form of old age welfare in these countries. If none of your children survive, you will not be cared for in old age. The higher the infant mortality, teh more children you need to have to ensure there will be someone alive to care for you.
War dirupts agriculture. Most of this poverty comes from famine casued by war. Drought contributes, but war is the main issue.
And yes, women there do spread their legs when they are told to.
It's funny, white folk are blamed for all the bad in the world, but we did invent women's rights, contraception and abolish slavery.
THe images in teh original post are all to do with education, littel to do with capitalism.
I question your war angle, I will research it at a later time. I read a few things earlier tonight and they all pointed towards climate, population (specifically over-crowding) and a search for a better environment overall.
no need for the sarcasm. I'm here tonight to learn a few things.
I don't know anything about life in Africa. why don't you tell me why the people there are sooooo poor? why do women have babies when they are starving themselves?
i wasn't actually being sarcastic. it's difficult to find an apartment and a job as it is. if over 600 million people came here now, it would be a lot harder.
i don't think i could tell you in a post why many people are poor, but i think drought, colonization, and civil war have something to do with it. if you really want to know, i'd do some research about african history.
one reason women have babies is because they don't have access to family planning services, thanks in part to the global gag rule, which is something george bush reinstated on his first day in office.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
i wasn't actually being sarcastic. it's difficult to find an apartment and a job as it is. if over 600 million people came here now, it would be a lot harder.
i don't think i could tell you in a post why many people are poor, but i think drought, colonization, and civil war have something to do with it. if you really want to know, i'd do some research about african history.
one reason women have babies is because they don't have access to family planning services, thanks in part to the global gag rule, which is something george bush reinstated on his first day in office.
interesting...
global gag rule. I've never heard of it before tonight.
Why should the United States be responsibile for teaching family planning to every country on the globe? Shouldn't every country be responsible for their own people?
are you referring to "family planning" as abortion? There are other ways to not have babies...
Africa is extremely rich in natural resources, but who controls those resources?
Read about the angry souls in Nigeria who are powerless to stop the corruption of Chevron (which Condoleeza Rice was Director of before joining the Bush team)... http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/chevron.htm
The blame lies on the small percent of people who own the majority of the world's resources and exploit peoples' needs to their advantage.
I don't think it should be a capitalism vs socialism/communism debate. It's about the decentralization of ownership.
But hasn't the principles of capitalism gotten the owners to where they are today? And wouldn't a more socialist system be about redistributing the wealthin a more equal manner?
But you're right, it's all about who is in control of the world's resources.
And I've always thought of privatization as a huge part of capitalism.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
and they are. I hate opening my fridge and not seeing anything. I hate feeling hungry. I couldn't imagine living in those conditions and I'm happy that I was born here and not there.
I don't understand how capitalism plays a part in all of this. Because McDonalds is a business that hopes to make a profit every day, they are bad? (Or coca-cola, etc.... any business, really).
I actually read the entire wikipedia entry on capitalism. I don't see why it's THAT bad. People should be accountable for their own actions in a free society... to blame the government for people not being responsible doesn't make sense.
interesting...
global gag rule. I've never heard of it before tonight.
Why should the United States be responsibile for teaching family planning to every country on the globe? Shouldn't every country be responsible for their own people?
are you referring to "family planning" as abortion? There are other ways to not have babies...
it's not about the u.s. gov teaching family planning and it's not just about abortion. the global gag rule restricts foreign nongovernmental organizations that receive USAID funding from (using their own non-u.s. funds) and mentioning abortion options or providing abortion services. now, when a clinic or NGO refuses to sign on to the rule, they are also forbidden from receiving contraception donations. so, lose-lose for them.
it's all very messy. going back to your original question of every country being responsible for their own people, i think that's a huge issue. i mean we fund so many things in many places, especially things like weapons. i personally think it's a good thing to help fund health care (here!) and elsewhere, but this policy certainly isn't helping women's health. in fact it's harming it.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
Africa is extremely rich in natural resources, but who controls those resources?
Read about the angry souls in Nigeria who are powerless to stop the corruption of Chevron (which Condoleeza Rice was Director of before joining the Bush team)... http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/chevron.htm
The blame lies on the small percent of people who own the majority of the world's resources and exploit peoples' needs to their advantage.
I don't think it should be a capitalism vs socialism/communism debate. It's about the decentralization of ownership.
thank you for posting that. i think a lot of people in general don't know a lot about african resources, and who owns them is a huge part of 'the problem'. and before i get started on diamonds, i should just stop posting and go play a little guitar .
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
But hasn't the principles of capitalism gotten the owners to where they are today? And wouldn't a more socialist system be about redistributing the wealthin a more equal manner?
But you're right, it's all about who is in control of the world's resources.
And I've always thought of privatization as a huge part of capitalism.
The problem is that under socialist systems, there stops being wealth to distribute. Completely socialist/communist countries all wind up dirt poor. Heavily socialised countries wind up very unhappy.
Capitsalist sountries are not perfect, but there is more opportunity.
The problem is that under socialist systems, there stops being wealth to distribute. Completely socialist/communist countries all wind up dirt poor. Heavily socialised countries wind up very unhappy.
Capitsalist sountries are not perfect, but there is more opportunity.
Some socialist countries are doing quite well. I think outside influence and interference also plays a big role in their success.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The opportunity to use liberty for one's own gain without consideration of the effects of their actions is the basis of capitalism to me.
That's an abuse of liberty, though, I cannot agree "abuse of liberty" = capitalism.
Pearl Jam are good capitalists. Hell, even Bill and Melinda Gates have become pretty good capitalists. The Nature Conservancy is a good organization dedicated to raising money to preserve nature. And they raise million upons millions for, more or less, capitalist venture real estate deals. Although, the "venture" ends in preservation.
Some socialist countries are doing quite well. I think outside influence and interference also plays a big role in their success.
Which ones ??
Sweden etc are "heavily socialised", not socialist. Without being an expert, depression and alcoholism rates are very high, according to folk I have met from there.
it's an obviously unfair, and pathetically simplistic assessment b/c 1. it plays on emotions through sensationalism, but more importantly 2. it implies that capitalism is a zero sum game when it's not...
the image implies that the child on the right is starving b/c of captialism of the west, which is laughable. he is starving b/c of the corruption of their own government, which hasn't adopted capitalism itself...so I would argue, the child is starving b/c of a lack of capitalism.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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no need for the sarcasm. I'm here tonight to learn a few things.
I don't know anything about life in Africa. why don't you tell me why the people there are sooooo poor? why do women have babies when they are starving themselves?
Seriously, I don't know where to begin to address this post.
I guess they are just starving because they are too lazy to find all these nutrients laying all over the place. :rolleyes:
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
These are easy questions to answer, as a ton of research has been done. The key to population control is maternal education. When mothers are educated, teh infant mortality rate drops. When infant mortality drops, so does the birth rate. Children are the only form of old age welfare in these countries. If none of your children survive, you will not be cared for in old age. The higher the infant mortality, teh more children you need to have to ensure there will be someone alive to care for you.
War dirupts agriculture. Most of this poverty comes from famine casued by war. Drought contributes, but war is the main issue.
And yes, women there do spread their legs when they are told to.
It's funny, white folk are blamed for all the bad in the world, but we did invent women's rights, contraception and abolish slavery.
THe images in teh original post are all to do with education, littel to do with capitalism.
my comment wasn't about starving Africans, it was about low-income Americans that choose McDonalds over healthier (and available) choices.
http://www.ifpri.org/2020/briefs/number19.htm
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I question your war angle, I will research it at a later time. I read a few things earlier tonight and they all pointed towards climate, population (specifically over-crowding) and a search for a better environment overall.
i wasn't actually being sarcastic. it's difficult to find an apartment and a job as it is. if over 600 million people came here now, it would be a lot harder.
i don't think i could tell you in a post why many people are poor, but i think drought, colonization, and civil war have something to do with it. if you really want to know, i'd do some research about african history.
one reason women have babies is because they don't have access to family planning services, thanks in part to the global gag rule, which is something george bush reinstated on his first day in office.
cross the river to the eastside
It's great to see the numbers dropping overall.
Of course but they still seem staggering.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
interesting...
global gag rule. I've never heard of it before tonight.
Why should the United States be responsibile for teaching family planning to every country on the globe? Shouldn't every country be responsible for their own people?
are you referring to "family planning" as abortion? There are other ways to not have babies...
Read about the angry souls in Nigeria who are powerless to stop the corruption of Chevron (which Condoleeza Rice was Director of before joining the Bush team)... http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/chevron.htm
A great deal of farm land is wasted in Africa because the landowners produce "cash crops" that are sold to the West instead of being used to provide food at home... http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Global_Secrets_Lies/Myth_FoodScarcity.html
And lest we forget the diamond mines...
http://www.realdiamondfacts.org
http://www.minesandcommunities.org/Action/press712.htm
The blame lies on the small percent of people who own the majority of the world's resources and exploit peoples' needs to their advantage.
I don't think it should be a capitalism vs socialism/communism debate. It's about the decentralization of ownership.
what do you do personally to help the starving people of africa?????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
But hasn't the principles of capitalism gotten the owners to where they are today? And wouldn't a more socialist system be about redistributing the wealthin a more equal manner?
But you're right, it's all about who is in control of the world's resources.
And I've always thought of privatization as a huge part of capitalism.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Give money, boycott products, sign petitions, spread awareness.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
and they are. I hate opening my fridge and not seeing anything. I hate feeling hungry. I couldn't imagine living in those conditions and I'm happy that I was born here and not there.
I don't understand how capitalism plays a part in all of this. Because McDonalds is a business that hopes to make a profit every day, they are bad? (Or coca-cola, etc.... any business, really).
I actually read the entire wikipedia entry on capitalism. I don't see why it's THAT bad. People should be accountable for their own actions in a free society... to blame the government for people not being responsible doesn't make sense.
it's not about the u.s. gov teaching family planning and it's not just about abortion. the global gag rule restricts foreign nongovernmental organizations that receive USAID funding from (using their own non-u.s. funds) and mentioning abortion options or providing abortion services. now, when a clinic or NGO refuses to sign on to the rule, they are also forbidden from receiving contraception donations. so, lose-lose for them.
it's all very messy. going back to your original question of every country being responsible for their own people, i think that's a huge issue. i mean we fund so many things in many places, especially things like weapons. i personally think it's a good thing to help fund health care (here!) and elsewhere, but this policy certainly isn't helping women's health. in fact it's harming it.
cross the river to the eastside
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
thank you for posting that. i think a lot of people in general don't know a lot about african resources, and who owns them is a huge part of 'the problem'. and before i get started on diamonds, i should just stop posting and go play a little guitar
cross the river to the eastside
Doctors without Borders
Unicef
Amnesty International
DoSomething.org
Orphans of Rwanda
I help when I can...I'm not well off by any means but I try to do what I can with what I have.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I've said it before. I don't think capitalism is the problem. The problem is liberty, misunderstood.
And the military-industrial complex.
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Explain the 'liberty misunderstood'.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I think liberty is a gift, a privilege. I think it is misundertood to be a right.
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so who decides who has liberty?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Liberty comes and goes. Within. Without.
How one treats liberty...says much about a person.
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The problem is that under socialist systems, there stops being wealth to distribute. Completely socialist/communist countries all wind up dirt poor. Heavily socialised countries wind up very unhappy.
Capitsalist sountries are not perfect, but there is more opportunity.
The opportunity to use liberty for one's own gain without consideration of the effects of their actions is the basis of capitalism to me.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Some socialist countries are doing quite well. I think outside influence and interference also plays a big role in their success.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That's an abuse of liberty, though, I cannot agree "abuse of liberty" = capitalism.
Pearl Jam are good capitalists. Hell, even Bill and Melinda Gates have become pretty good capitalists. The Nature Conservancy is a good organization dedicated to raising money to preserve nature. And they raise million upons millions for, more or less, capitalist venture real estate deals. Although, the "venture" ends in preservation.
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Which ones ??
Sweden etc are "heavily socialised", not socialist. Without being an expert, depression and alcoholism rates are very high, according to folk I have met from there.
it's an obviously unfair, and pathetically simplistic assessment b/c 1. it plays on emotions through sensationalism, but more importantly 2. it implies that capitalism is a zero sum game when it's not...
the image implies that the child on the right is starving b/c of captialism of the west, which is laughable. he is starving b/c of the corruption of their own government, which hasn't adopted capitalism itself...so I would argue, the child is starving b/c of a lack of capitalism.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days