knucklehead, i'm referring to what all the hoopla is about. they're questioning whether the vatican will beatify her or not. no need to be crude. if you don't understand something, just ask. i'm not catholic, but some of this is more or less common knowledge, isn't it?
It doesn't matter what the faith is. It was never the point. Point is, regardless of what you have faith in, when you reclaim it, after struggling with it, it will likely be stronger than before. Don't see how anything i said could be offensive to you or anyone else.
yes, that's what i meant also.
i think barium's just looking for a fight! too bad he's having a hard time finding one here.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
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i wasn't referring to you, i am talking about the bigger issue of whether they will finally saint the poor woman. apparently there has been some concern over this crisis she suffered. but i believe they need to be able to credit her with another miracle before they can canonize her, if i'm not mistaken.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
i wasn't referring to you, i am talking about the bigger issue of whether they will finally saint the poor woman. apparently there has been some concern over this crisis she suffered. but i believe they need to be able to credit her with another miracle before they can canonize her, if i'm not mistaken.
You implied I lacked the insight of knowledge to understand what is being said about this issue. I say otherwise.
I'm sorry if I go off topic here by not calling names or anything and just address the actual topic.
I just read it (I said I'd wait till now because I prefer reading it in print than on a computer screen) and I must say it's an interesting article to say the least.
It seems to me that Time deliberately stays away from more agnostic and atheistic points of view on her crisis of faith, though. But maybe that's because they follow the direction of the book. The book sounds really interesting as well and I think I'll pick it up one day.
I've read and have seen a lot of stuff about Mother Teresa being a fraud, that she didn't care about the dying at all (or that she didn't care about relieving them of their pain) and the she didn't use the donated money wisely or effectively. Perhaps the lack of god in her life came through in her actions i.e. her carelessness.
People said she was obsessed with suffering and these letters seem to confirm this.
yeah, obsessed with suffering sounds very strange.
i'm not catholic... so i've never really paid much attention to her works and what she's done. and i'm not at all surprised that she denies God's existence... there are so many people who are catholics and practice catholicism but don't even believe in the bible, or much more rather believe that a god created the universe with a divine purpose. might not be true for all catholics... but i've heard it said before, "a good catholic doesn't read its bible."
i don't know if she ever was a fraud like the link says, but it sure is interesting. i come to wonder though... from the link you provided there are other links that also show ghandi and dalai lama as fraud... maybe those dudes from the clips are just completely biased. it's really hard to conclude that it's a fact.
cause even though i'm not a hindu, a buddhist, or catholic it's hard for me to believe that just because there are religious people they are ALL going to be frauds. cause stemming from the links, at least it's what it seems like they are trying to say. and i'm not trying to defend religions by this... i'm not religious myself.... although many would find hard to believe
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
This is just an indication of how strong her faith was. She didn't let her doubts stop her from doing her part.
Awesome lady
probably.... i don't know.
but collin has provided other links that suggest otherwise. maybe you should look into them.
a friend of mine who is a pentecostal referred me to the link. all it says to me though is that you can't really trust a human being. ever. buddhist, hindu, atheist, pentecostal, catholic, agnostic... no matter who or what... you can't put your faith in a single human being.
except jesus
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
i wasn't referring to you, i am talking about the bigger issue of whether they will finally saint the poor woman. apparently there has been some concern over this crisis she suffered. but i believe they need to be able to credit her with another miracle before they can canonize her, if i'm not mistaken.
no one's a saint. not ghandi, not dalai lama, not mother theresa, not martin luther king, not moses, not abraham
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
but collin has provided other links that suggest otherwise. maybe you should look into them.
a friend of mine who is a pentecostal referred me to the link. all it says to me though is that you can't really trust a human being. ever. buddhist, hindu, atheist, pentecostal, catholic, agnostic... no matter who or what... you can't put your faith in a single human being.
except jesus
Jesus was the world's only perfect man. Ever, forever, and always.
but collin has provided other links that suggest otherwise. maybe you should look into them.
a friend of mine who is a pentecostal referred me to the link. all it says to me though is that you can't really trust a human being. ever. buddhist, hindu, atheist, pentecostal, catholic, agnostic... no matter who or what... you can't put your faith in a single human being.
except jesus
Well, i would hope, that the actual validity any clip organized and edited by Penn and freakin' Teller would be, at best, seen as questionable. You're right though, there are no PERFECT human beings. Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Dr. King, etc. are all examples of some darn good ones, and its sad to me that not even such fine examples of humanity as these are safe from those who, for whatever reason, would seek to dicredit them. Especially when its a couple of comic magicians.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Well, i would hope, that the actual validity any clip organized and edited by Penn and freakin' Teller would be, at best, seen as questionable. You're right though, there are no PERFECT human beings. Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Dr. King, etc. are all examples of some darn good ones, and its sad to me that not even such fine examples of humanity as these are safe from those who, for whatever reason, would seek to dicredit them. Especially when its a couple of comic magicians.
Only you can make values on human indivuations. You are safe to do so.
Is it a discredit when those values are truly valued by you? Or, is it possible your values are simply bargaining chips in a psychological game you play with yourself on a day-to-day basis? "Where do I stand?" If you had any faith to begin with, how could it be discredited by a couple of yahoo's on a TV screen?
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I don't do 'hoopla'.
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yes, that's what i meant also.
i think barium's just looking for a fight! too bad he's having a hard time finding one here.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
i wasn't referring to you, i am talking about the bigger issue of whether they will finally saint the poor woman. apparently there has been some concern over this crisis she suffered. but i believe they need to be able to credit her with another miracle before they can canonize her, if i'm not mistaken.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
No, not looking for a fight. I'm on a mission from god.
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This is just an indication of how strong her faith was. She didn't let her doubts stop her from doing her part.
Awesome lady
i'm not catholic... so i've never really paid much attention to her works and what she's done. and i'm not at all surprised that she denies God's existence... there are so many people who are catholics and practice catholicism but don't even believe in the bible, or much more rather believe that a god created the universe with a divine purpose. might not be true for all catholics... but i've heard it said before, "a good catholic doesn't read its bible."
i don't know if she ever was a fraud like the link says, but it sure is interesting. i come to wonder though... from the link you provided there are other links that also show ghandi and dalai lama as fraud... maybe those dudes from the clips are just completely biased. it's really hard to conclude that it's a fact.
cause even though i'm not a hindu, a buddhist, or catholic it's hard for me to believe that just because there are religious people they are ALL going to be frauds. cause stemming from the links, at least it's what it seems like they are trying to say. and i'm not trying to defend religions by this... i'm not religious myself.... although many would find hard to believe
In other words, there isn't a person or a god or anyone that can do anything now for mother theresa. she's dead.
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nothingness.
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but collin has provided other links that suggest otherwise. maybe you should look into them.
a friend of mine who is a pentecostal referred me to the link. all it says to me though is that you can't really trust a human being. ever. buddhist, hindu, atheist, pentecostal, catholic, agnostic... no matter who or what... you can't put your faith in a single human being.
except jesus
i told my friend she died years ago... but he said she just died last year
Jesus was the world's only perfect man. Ever, forever, and always.
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I think it was as recent as a year ago. Maybe 2 years. I don't know.
I'll bet she masturbated a few times in her lifetime, though.
Not that I should even mention that.
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I have to give credit to you for the sense of humor.
But, that's about it.
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I wonder if Mother Theresa ever wore Ray-Bans.
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just so you know.... i'm really not trying to defend mother theresa in any way.
I'm on a mission from God. I have special powers. I already know what you're doing.
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Well, i would hope, that the actual validity any clip organized and edited by Penn and freakin' Teller would be, at best, seen as questionable. You're right though, there are no PERFECT human beings. Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Dr. King, etc. are all examples of some darn good ones, and its sad to me that not even such fine examples of humanity as these are safe from those who, for whatever reason, would seek to dicredit them. Especially when its a couple of comic magicians.
what are you talking about?? when did i "imply" that? are those voices in your head fighting again?
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Only you can make values on human indivuations. You are safe to do so.
Is it a discredit when those values are truly valued by you? Or, is it possible your values are simply bargaining chips in a psychological game you play with yourself on a day-to-day basis? "Where do I stand?" If you had any faith to begin with, how could it be discredited by a couple of yahoo's on a TV screen?
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All that vatican crap, and canonizing shit.
It means nothing.
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i think for the devoutly catholic, it is a big deal, though many people consider theresa a saint already, just not "officially".
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
it's ok if it means nothing to you. i doubt your opinion matters to them.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Yes.
Thanks.
"Them" aint here oh brilliant one.
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