Haggard admits ‘sexual immorality,’ apologizes
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This is so sad. I rejoiced when he was caught, but now I feel nothing but pity. Repulsive and dark... The only thing that is repulsive and dark is the hatred he has for himself and others who engage in things to what most of us would not even object to.
"find the peace within your self..."
That's exactly what went through my head when I read it. Dark and repulsive? I think him thinking it's dark and repulsive is in fact, dark and repulsive.
I still can only feel so sorry for someone who made himself wealthy and powerful by preaching hatred, but it is terribly sad that he thinks perfectly normal parts of himself are "repulsive and dark." The only thing repulsive and dark here is people using religion to make others hate themselves. He was a major perpetrator, but he was obviously a victim of it first, and look what it's done to him and his family.
i agree. his original admission that be "bought meth but threw it away without using it" is the dumbest excuse ive heard since clinton said he didnt inhale. this guy's a fucking scumbag and a hypocrite. is there any way to send him to prison? perhaps fraud or something? the only thing dark and repulsive about this story is that he bilked thousands of americans of their money and exploited, encouraged, and nurtured hatred and bigotry for his own sick power grab.
You guys are always so quick to try and say a weenie-in-the-buns is normal that sometimes you forget to see the big picture.
Here are some things that are "dark and repulsive", regardless of were you fall on the topic of homosexuality:
Lying, Deception, Unhealthly sexual addiction, Cheating on your spouse, Having regular sex with a prostitue, Drugs... yeah, I'd say pretty dark and repulsive if you asked me.
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It's funny(and not 'ha-ha' funny) that he'd rather admit to buying crystal meth than being gay.
perhaps, but his apology implied that his homosexual acts were the only dark and repulsive things for which he was apologizing. he seemed to be saying that if it werent for the dark and repulsive nature of his gay tendencies, he never would have done the other things. that's bullshit.
the funny thing is, i dont believe he is actually gay. i think his decade-long obsession with their horrible, sinful, disgusting, hedonistic, lustful, perverted, sexy, forbidden, irresistible (get my progression) lead him to figure if ti was so evil and awful, there must be a good reason why people were doing. i think it was hhis obsession with how depraved people must be to pursue such pleasures that it made him unbearably curious to see what all the fuss was about, and so he tried it.
if he hadn't been spending so much time obsessing over what those gay people were doing, maybe he'd have been able to focus on his own marriage.
tearfully confess to such infidelities.
the fact that he apparently lead a double life decieving his family and
his followers for years is inexcusable.
preaching against such so called sins and yet living the way he did is quite dark and repulsive to me.
hey if you want to be gay and use drugs, thats your choice,
just don't tell me how to live.
THANK YOU. I was sitting here reading the posts before yours in disbelief!
I'm not really sure why folks feel the need to defend the gay part of it when the undisputed and admitted fact was that he was doing all of this while being a father and husband. Would it be "oppressing his normal behavior" if he was doing this with another woman? I'd think not.
You forgot about "I did NOT have sex with that woman"
Na, not inhaling... Thats a waste of weed!
I think soulsinging has a very good point too, that may have been exactly what happened ... his obsession drove him to be the very thing that he despised.
We'll never know. And like I said before, I can only feel so sorry for someone who built an empire from hatred. But still, I can see the sadness in it, if he was raised with these same beliefs, if he was brainwashed since birth to see himself as evil.
Here in the conscious world
We place our theories down
Why man must bring us
to our knees
Before he sees the weakness
of his sinful plan
The power in his hand
Will never touch a friend
Throw your hatred down
Throw your hatred down
Meanwhile in the underworld
The weaknesses are seen
By peasants and presidents
Who plan the counter-scheme
Children in the schoolyard
Finish choosing teams
Divided by their dreams
While a TV screams
Throw your weapons down
Throw your weapons down
The wheel of fortune
Keeps on rollin' down
The street that's paved
with sinful plans
There but for circumstance
May go you or I
Dressed in gold lame
Find a place to stay
Throw your hatred down
Throw your hatred down
Throw your hatred down
Throw your weapons down
the dumbest thing i've heard since people who claim that Clinton was impeached b/c he lied about getting a blow job...when in reality, he lied about past sexual conduct in a sexual harasment trial. granted, sexual harassment is overrated. it's okay though if you're a democrat.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
serioulsy? he setteled...so sexual harassment is ok if you have enough money to and fbi files to subdue those who would dare stand up against you?
any true feminist would look upon this guy with disdain, and if clinton was a Republican, you would think he was worse than W, Reagan, and Hitler all rolled into one. On top of it all, if Clinton was a Republican, Broderick would be a household name, especially on this site.
serioulsy, the whole episode was quite telling, and embarrasing.
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yeah, that's EXACTLY what you were doing
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And desire and love and empty things
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Well Said
and if he was leading a crusade to put scarlet letters on women who cheated while he had affaris on his wife, id be equally outraged. the point is not that his behavior is bad. the point is that he condemns and encourages hatred towards people who are no different than him.
it is the same as rush limbaugh advocating throwing drug addicts in jail forever... unless, of course, they're rush limbaugh, in which case it's just a tragic problem deserving mercy and treatment. all those black guys in the ghetto though... they CHOSE to become addicts and they're all just fucking criminals right?
see, you are so quick to throw these labels around... like "it's ok if you're a democrat." yet you still find excuses to rationalize why it was ok for bush to lie about WMD's in iraq. so... i turn it around. if bush were a dem, you'd think he was worse than hitler or stalin combined for meddling in affairs that aren't ours and lying to get us to war. it's okay though if you're a republican.
funny how that works.
clinton settled his sexual harassment claims. if the woman who was settled with found it satisfactory, it is not my business. who clinton fucked is also not my business if his wife has no problem with it. it is between them. now, if clinton had been the impetus for a national drive to promote abstinence and fidelity, then id be pissed. but he wasnt. he fucked around. not my problem. apparently, it wasnt such a problem for whoever he harassed either cos she was willing to drop the charges for settlement. if whatever he did was so reprehensible and awful, she'd had wanted him publicly nailed to the wall. but she didnt.
bottom line is, this guy is a piece of shit and i hope he got gonorrhea from his activities.
let's stop it right there bright eyes...
can you provide ANY evidence that W lied? any evidence that his evidence was different from russia's, france's, the uk, etc?
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funny, sexual harassment is your business if bob packwood or clarance thomas is involved. truth is, you don't give a damned about women's rights. nor does NOW, or whatever they're calling themselves these days.
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well, do you really think i care what clinton did with monica and his dildo? for gods sake im a centrist, im just glad that a man with his politics was elected
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i didnt give a damn about bob packwood or clarence thomas either. where did i mention either of them and why do you insist on amking these blanket assumptions that you know my every view based solely on the fact that i think dubya is a dunce? i DID give a damn about newt gingrich. why? cos he was leading the crucifixion of clinton for being a dirty cheater. but i dont believe in "causes." i believe in common sense. my common sense is that who people feel like marrying or fucking is their business, not mine. and if you go around telling people that they're not allowed to fuck certain people becos it's wrong, and it turns out you've been doing the same thing all along, you're a fucking schmuck and i hope your dick rots off. that goes to newt and this piece of shit. clinton, thomas, packwood... they paid their debt to the justice system and their accusers. beyond that, their behavior is none of my godamn business. it's the hypocrisy i loathe, not the fact that they fucked up. humans make mistakes. but to condemn others for mistakes you make yourself is fucking disgusting.
how about what he did with paula jones? again, sexual harassment isn't a big deal to you?
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Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days