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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I'm not republican, I'm not a bitch for any government. Its good to hear you dont beat up midgets though.
    Um ... you entirely missed the point.

    You said that you feel no sympathy when gays get beat up, because they make a big deal of their gayness and make enemies for themselves, and they have only themselves to blame.

    I said that I see republicans making a big deal of their political leanings, gathering together in large traffic-disrupting groups, making an enemy of me. So if I beat them up, it's their fault because they brought it upon themselves ... right or wrong?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I think parades based upon sexual behavior are inappropriate for public viewing.
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  • hippiemom wrote:
    Um ... you entirely missed the point.

    You said that you feel no sympathy when gays get beat up, because they make a big deal of their gayness and make enemies for themselves, and they have only themselves to blame.

    I said that I see republicans making a big deal of their political leanings, gathering together in large traffic-disrupting groups, making an enemy of me. So if I beat them up, it's their fault because they brought it upon themselves ... right or wrong?

    Correct, anyone who makes a pain in the ass of themselves and gets hit/beaten up doesnt get any sympathy from me.
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    Oh, so now I go out and condone it?

    Yes you should not be aware whether they are gay. That isn't just realized, but that should be the goal. It should truly not matter.
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    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Correct, anyone who makes a pain in the ass of themselves and gets hit/beaten up doesnt get any sympathy from me.
    Interesting. In your book, physical violence is an appropriate response to being annoyed.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom wrote:
    Interesting. In your book, physical violence is an appropriate response to being annoyed.

    I'm sorry for seeming very anti-peace but yes, thats what I think. Obviously, there are times where you draw the line (little kids, animals)
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    there you are.

    - brain of c
  • I'm sorry for seeming very anti-peace but yes, thats what I think. Obviously, there are times where you draw the line (little kids, animals)

    I just noticed in your profile that you are 15-years-old... no offense, but that sort of explains a lot.
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  • Heres how it goes:


    If gays want to parade around and make a pain in the ass of themselves (They do, navigating through parades is a pain in the ASS, and seeing as we get about 5 minor parades and one big parade a year its fucking annoying) then thats up to them, but if someone gets pissed off and beats one up, I have no sympathy, I wouldnt have any sympathy if it happened in a straight parade.

    So... you're "inconvenienced" 6 days out of 365? Boy, that does sound rough.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    I just noticed in your profile that you are 15-years-old... no offense, but that sort of explains a lot.

    15 and worried about driving around parades, eh? huh.
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    cross the river to the eastside
  • VictoryGin wrote:
    15 and worried about driving around parades, eh? huh.

    You are missing the point, age doesnt mean a thing, it doesnt annoy me half as much as it does to others that drive. What does that tell you?
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    know1 wrote:
    I think parades based upon sexual behavior are inappropriate for public viewing.


    Oddly, the parades were first started with a root in awareness and tolerance. It was way of bringing to light the discrimination and bigotry against homosexuals and addressing that hate and mindset.

    There was much hatred and violence against homosexuals, by ignorant, violent opportunists who saw the homosexual community as an easy target of tolerated violence; because of the ignorant mindset (much of it deeply rooted in religion or at the very least these violent apes used religion as their justification for their violent torment) of a large portion of the american population.

    So if they were being targeted for their sexual orientation, it is completely justified for them to speak out, gather and form parades; based on their sexual orientation.

    They simply wanted to be treated fairly and not be discriminated against, because of their sexual orientation.

    If anything, ignorant hetrosexuals and their violent-orientated mindsets; brough on the parades.

    Change the mindset and treat everyone as individual human beings, who have the same and equal rights as any hetrosexual; and we no longer have a problem. Nor will kids interpret homosexuality as a curse or burden to fear for one's life and career.

    If hetrosexuals never had that ignorant mindset, there wouldn't be a "stigma" to being gay. If adults didn't react negatively, harshly, violently and condemn homosexuality, then, kids wouldn't suffer emotional stress, truama and live in fear as they discover themselves to be homosexuals.

    And other kids wouldn't learn that ignorant mindset and seek to emotionally and sometimes physically torture homosexual teenagers.

    It would be something like like:

    " Dad, I just want to tell you. I'm gay. So stop trying to hook me up with our neighborJennifer. "

    "Are you sure son? I mean, Jennifer has some great tits and a sweet ass!"

    "I'm sure dad. I'm gay. "

    "Okay. Pass me the mashed potatoes, please. And don't forget, we're going fishing this upcoming Saturday and we're leaving early. So make sure you get enough sleep, Friday night."

    " Okay dad. Will do."

    One more thing, don't forget to put the garbage out tonight.

    "I won't dad. I'll do it right after I finsh my homework.

    Thank you, son.
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    You are missing the point, age doesnt mean a thing, it doesnt annoy me half as much as it does to others that drive. What does that tell you?

    Well you never answered my questions about what city you live in, that's the gay capital and all. So I can only assume you are a very new driver, though many places here wouldn't allow driving at your age. Also, I think it's so terribly sad that someone your age has so much anger.

    I'm also thinking this:
    ATTN LADIES: STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE!
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • Yes, physical violence is wrong, but not having sympathy for an annoying person isn't. Did you really sympathize with the loud-mouth jerk kid in school who got beat up one day for mouthing off to the wrong person? I'd be lying if I said yes. That doesn't mean I think that beating the kid up was right either.
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    NMyTree wrote:
    It would be something like like:

    " Dad, I just want to tell you. I'm gay. So stop trying to hook me up with our neighborJennifer. "

    "Are you sure son? I mean, Jennifer has some great tits and a sweet ass!"

    "I'm sure dad. I'm gay. "

    "Okay. Pass me the mashed potatoes, please. And don't forget, we're going fishing this upcoming Saturday and we're leaving early. So make sure you get enough sleep, Friday night."

    " Okay dad. Will do."

    One more thing, don't forget to put the garbage out tonight.

    "I won't dad. I'll do it right after I finsh my homework.

    Thank you, son.

    Great post, all of it. But I just wanted to add something to the conversation:

    "Hey son, don't forget to 'wrap it up'--not because you're gay, but because you may be having sex. We should talk more about this later."

    :)
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    NMyTree wrote:
    Oddly, the parades were first started with a root in awareness and tolerance. It was way of bringing to light the discrimination and bigotry against homosexuals and addressing that hate and mindset.

    There was much hatred and violence against homosexuals, by ignorant, violent opportunists who saw the homosexual community as an easy target of tolerated violence; because of the ignorant mindset (much of it deeply rooted in religion or at the very least these violent apes used religion as their justification for their violent torment) of a large portion of the american population.

    So if they were being targeted for their sexual orientation, it is completely justified for them to speak out, gather and form parades; based on their sexual orientation.

    They simply wanted to be treated fairly and not be discriminated against, because of their sexual orientation.

    If anything, ignorant hetrosexuals and their violent-orientated mindsets; brough on the parades.

    Change the mindset and treat everyone as individual human beings, who have the same and equal rights as any hetrosexual; and we no longer have a problem. Nor will kids interpret homosexuality as a curse or burden to fear for one's life and career.

    If hetrosexuals never had that ignorant mindset, there wouldn't be a "stigma" to being gay. If adults didn't react negatively, harshly, violently and condemn homosexuality, then, kids wouldn't suffer emotional stress, truama and live in fear as they discover themselves to be homosexuals.

    And other kids wouldn't learn that ignorant mindset and seek to emotionally and sometimes physically torture homosexual teenagers.

    It would be something like like:

    " Dad, I just want to tell you. I'm gay. So stop trying to hook me up with our neighborJennifer. "

    "Are you sure son? I mean, Jennifer has some great tits and a sweet ass!"

    "I'm sure dad. I'm gay. "

    "Okay. Pass me the mashed potatoes, please. And don't forget, we're going fishing this upcoming Saturday and we're leaving early. So make sure you get enough sleep, Friday night."

    " Okay dad. Will do."

    One more thing, don't forget to put the garbage out tonight.

    "I won't dad. I'll do it right after I finsh my homework.

    Thank you, son.
    I really like this post. But I have to laugh that a lot of the intolerance depicted above can now be found in groups of homosexuals except directed towards heterosexuals or breeders. Intolerance and hate cut across sexuality.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • I'm not sure where you are from, but here, the equal rights thing has swung the other way, Gays seem to get more privaleges, and get the benifit of the doubt, its only natural that people are kinda pissed off about it. I cant say that if I was gay and had those privilages I would turn them down though.
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    surferdude wrote:
    I really like this post. But I have to laugh that a lot of the intolerance depicted above can now be found in groups of homosexuals except directed towards heterosexuals or breeders. Intolerance and hate cut across sexuality.

    Do you see gay people beating heteros because of their sexuality? I'm totally curious, I haven't seen that.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    I'm not sure where you are from, but here, the equal rights thing has swung the other way, Gays seem to get more privaleges, and get the benifit of the doubt, its only natural that people are kinda pissed off about it. I cant say that if I was gay and had those privilages I would turn them down though.


    I live in new york city. And are we back to talking about the 'special treatment' like parades and 'a day'? yawn.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Gays seem to get more privaleges

    Please enumerate some of them.
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  • Gay bars, and more importantly: the benifit of the doubt, if a gay is speeding he is less likley to get a ticket than a straight person why? Because the police are scared to look 'Homophobic' because they KNOW that the gays will play that card, they arent stupid.
    no matter where you go,
    there you are.

    - brain of c